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What's a "typical prog fan"? I'm sure I am not one either. LOL
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

.....On Never Mind the Bollocks at least each song has it's own thing going, ....
.... to me, every Pistols song sounds the same.

I agree mostly with Saperlipopette! here.

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^No prob. Most of my choices are in the minority.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2023 at 10:15

I'd also say that the all-round sound on Never Mind... is really great and unique.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

What's a "typical prog fan"? I'm sure I am not one either. LOL
One that is stuck in the 70's and thinks modern prog is crap, and only listens to "real prog". Or one who follows the popular modern prog bands only and don't veer out of their comfort zone.

You're anything but typical, Cristi.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

What's a "typical prog fan"? I'm sure I am not one either. LOL
One that is stuck in the 70's and thinks modern prog is crap, and only listens to "real prog". Or one who follows the popular modern prog bands only and don't veer out of their comfort zone.

You're anything but typical, Cristi.
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I thought so. Smile

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

What's a "typical prog fan"? I'm sure I am not one either. LOL
I guess what people mean by that differs, but I just though of someone who listens primarely to prog - og at least has prog as their preferred genre.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

What's a "typical prog fan"? I'm sure I am not one either. LOL
I guess what people mean by that differs, but I just though of someone who listens primarely to prog - og at least has prog as their preferred genre.

I don't listen primarily to prog, never did, I do listen to prog bands from all decades, but I listen to other genres as well.  Smile
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If we're talking about the American Punk, then I find Marquee Moon to have very unique sound too, but still not quite as much 
as Never Mind.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

What's a "typical prog fan"? I'm sure I am not one either. LOL
I guess what people mean by that differs, but I just though of someone who listens primarely to prog - og at least has prog as their preferred genre.

I don't listen primarily to prog, never did, I do listen to prog bands from all decades, but I listen to other genres as well.  Smile
That's nice, but I wasn't addressing you.


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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

What's a "typical prog fan"? I'm sure I am not one either. LOL
I guess what people mean by that differs, but I just though of someone who listens primarely to prog - og at least has prog as their preferred genre.

I don't listen primarily to prog, never did, I do listen to prog bands from all decades, but I listen to other genres as well.  Smile
But I wasn't addressing you now was I?

What do you mean?! You quoted me, I thought you were talking to me. LOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

What's a "typical prog fan"? I'm sure I am not one either. LOL
I guess what people mean by that differs, but I just though of someone who listens primarely to prog - og at least has prog as their preferred genre.

I don't listen primarily to prog, never did, I do listen to prog bands from all decades, but I listen to other genres as well.  Smile
But I wasn't addressing you now was I?

What do you mean?! You quoted me, I thought you were talking to me. LOL
Not to begin with, no. I just explained my way of thinking to you. Here's who I was addressing
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

I liked it, but it didn't impress me. I enjoyed The Ramones more. They came before the Pistols and had more humor in their music.
I'm a bit surprised a prog fan thinks like that. The Ramones were a one-dimensional one trick pony-band to me. On Never Mind the Bollocks at least each song has it's own thing going, so I don't get bored halfway into the second track.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

.....On Never Mind the Bollocks at least each song has it's own thing going, ....

Now, I listened to it again and in fact, I'm amazed by how much variety they can get in all the songs when using
more or less the same formula.

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Honestly one of the best punk albums ever made and one of my personal favorites

While not as far out as some of the post punk and art punk acts to come

The Sex Pistols scored the perfect musical slap in the face in 1977

The hatred of punk by many proggers only showcases how stuck in the mud many of them really were \ are!

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Honestly one of the best punk albums ever made and one of my personal favorites

While not as far out as some of the post punk and art punk acts to come

The Sex Pistols scored the perfect musical slap in the face in 1977

The hatred of punk by many proggers only showcases how stuck in the mud many of them really were \ are!

That last sentence is unfair. Maybe some dislike punk because the music just does not speak to them in any way. 

The only good thing punk did was inspire other musicians to create new music, gave metal a boost, post punk is much more interesting. 

An album (and a genre obviously) that appeared at the right place and the right time, filled a void. Grunge & alternative did the same in the 90s. 
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When talking about Ramones, frankly speaking, to me they're like Pop-Rock when comparing to the Punk Rock of Sex Pistols. Wink
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

The only good thing punk did was inspire other musicians to create new music, gave metal a boost, post punk is much more interesting. 

An album (and a genre obviously) that appeared at the right place and the right time, filled a void. Grunge & alternative did the same in the 90s. 

The British Punk Rock was as much a social rebellion as a musical one - just very nihilistic.


Edited by David_D - December 10 2023 at 16:11
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Honestly one of the best punk albums ever made and one of my personal favorites

While not as far out as some of the post punk and art punk acts to come

The Sex Pistols scored the perfect musical slap in the face in 1977

The hatred of punk by many proggers only showcases how stuck in the mud many of them really were \ are!


That last sentence is unfair. Maybe some dislike punk because the music just does not speak to them in any way. 

The only good thing punk did was inspire other musicians to create new music, gave metal a boost, post punk is much more interesting. 

An album (and a genre obviously) that appeared at the right place and the right time, filled a void. Grunge & alternative did the same in the 90s. 


Punk pissed off many proggers because they were too wrapped up in escapism and failed to address social issues. The whole point of punk was to NOT connect with escapists drawn to prog.

That means those who hated were definitely stuck in the mud and could not adapt to the changing musical world around them. The same went for punkers stuck in the mud who hated more artistic statements.

This pattern repeats every decade or so however in the modern world it seems more music lovers are more mature in accepting all forms of musical expressions as valid and thankfully so!

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