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    Posted: December 09 2023 at 20:47
There is much exotica that is amazingly well played and complex.  

Anyone else enjoy this genre?

It's said (by Baxter's daughter) that Les Baxter helped Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys with some training.

If you listen to a lot of the arrangements, they were as complex as things the Beatles and Beach Boys were doing by 1965.  

Here is Dolphin by Les Baxter. 






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Enchanting and under-explored genre, I'm afraid when I think of Exotica I tend to think of someone like Korla Pandit --

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=korla+pandit+youtube#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:c088d74a,vid:WQHaglomIU0,st:0

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In fact, progressive jazz existed prior to progressive pop and progressive rock. In England, the term "progressive music" was first used as a synonym for "underground music," which actually originated with the early 1960s' British jazz that was played in clubs in and around Soho, London, which is about four square miles and was the site of the majority of these artistic activities.

In that respect, I'd like to recommend the book Subversion Through Jazz: The Birth of British Progressive Jazz in a Cold War Climate by Matt Parker, which examines the beginning of the British progressive jazz movement from 1956 to 1964. British jazz saw a paradigm shift during this time, going from imitator to innovator, similar to many other art genres in the UK. Under the direction of West Indian alto saxophonist Joe Harriott, a new wave of post-World War II musicians found their own sound. Rather than copying American jazz traditions, they explored improvisation as a means of self-expression and embraced a wide range of influences, including African music, 50s rock 'n' roll, Indian music, blues, classic and contemporary poetry and literature, Caribbean music, folk, R&B, and soul. These influences helped to shape, firstly, British progressive jazz at the time and, a bit later, British progressive pop and rock identity, which in turn influenced musicians on the Continent and all over the world.



British progressive jazz was the source of the British pop and rock music industry's persistent preoccupation with British art and culture starting in 1965. The movement's musicians were the first post-World War II modern jazz performers outside of the United States to incorporate artistic nationalism into their work. They also introduced non-musical elements from the realms of British and European literature and art, left-wing politics, and non-jazz musical influences, including brass bands, the music-hall traditions of Victorian and Edwardian Britain, and the abstract classical compositions of Anton Webern and Cornelius Cardew.
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Do I enjoy this genre? Hell yes. Everyone with an ear or two should. Here ten favorites of mine (out of many more) from the classic era:

Yma Sumac - Voice of the Xtabay 1950 / Inca Taqui (1953)*
Martin Denny - Forbidden Island (1958)
Eden Ahbez - Eden's Island (1960)
Bob Romeo, His Flute and the Jungle Sextet - Music to Play in the Dark (1956)
Elisabeth Waldo - Rites of the Pagan: Mystic Realm of the Ancient Americas (1960)
Frank Hunter - White Goddess (1959)
Les Baxter and His Orchestra - Ritual of the Savage (1951)
Miriam Burton - African Lament (1961)
Bob Kojima and his Orchestra - Moshi Moshi (1960)
Webley Edwards With Al Kealoha Perry - Hawaii Calls: Fire Goddess (1958)

*In regards to that Yma release, I've got a 1954 vinyl-version collecting these two 78rpm's as the A & B-side. Which is the most common version.

-and finally a special mention goes to Ìxtahuele - Dharmaland (from 2021)

Eden Ahbez's "Dharmaland," arranged and performed by Ìxtahuele, is the first-ever recording of this long-lost masterwork by the original hippie composer of "Nature Boy." Resurrected from Ahbez’s unrecorded sheet music, c. 1961-63, Ìxtahuele has woven an enchanted tapestry of mystic exotica and experimental pop that re-establishes the songwriter as a forefather of psychedelic music and brings his work into the present.

Here's a teaser with none other than Kadhja Bonet guesting on wordless vocals



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There's another Les Baxter fan right here and with 32 albums on 16 CD's, I have more albums by Les Baxter & His Orchestra than any other artist. Thumbs Up
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An amazing approach to music. Certainly worth checking it out by those who are not familiar with it.
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Yeah, I'm an exotica collector. Baxter is a favorite. I have some unusual ones found at thrift stores including an album where a lounge organ player recreates "Also Sprach Tharathustra" by herself and her organ rhythm machine. Its funny and entertaining both. I'll try to post some favorites.
I think ELP's "Tank" fits into this genre as well.




Andy Mackay from Roxy Music:



Denny McLain, star pitcher for the Detroit Tigers, recorded some albums with him on the organ. They used to give these albums away at Tiger games, apparently thrift stores in the Detroit area are full of these. I found my copy in California.





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^That's the sort of music I'd file under Easy Listening or maybe lounge music - not Exotica. Still a lovely little tune though. 

Edit: those additional vids you've added are even less Exotica. Are you sure that's what you're collecting and not just some easy on the ears vintage instrumental music?


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OP: Now this is exactly the kind of a golden thread that makes PA one of the best information sites on the Internet! I'd never even heard of this genre, though Eden Ahbez was an artist whose existence I'd only recently been exposed to. Fascinating! Thank you Robert Pearson, Schandor, and Rollon Duché de Normandie!





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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Do I enjoy this genre? Hell yes. Everyone with an ear or two should. Here ten favorites of mine (out of many more) from the classic era:

Yma Sumac - Voice of the Xtabay 1950 / Inca Taqui (1953)*
Martin Denny - Forbidden Island (1958)
Eden Ahbez - Eden's Island (1960)
Bob Romeo, His Flute and the Jungle Sextet - Music to Play in the Dark (1956)
Elisabeth Waldo - Rites of the Pagan: Mystic Realm of the Ancient Americas (1960)
Frank Hunter - White Goddess (1959)
Les Baxter and His Orchestra - Ritual of the Savage (1951)
Miriam Burton - African Lament (1961)
Bob Kojima and his Orchestra - Moshi Moshi (1960)
Webley Edwards With Al Kealoha Perry - Hawaii Calls: Fire Goddess (1958)

*In regards to that Yma release, I've got a 1954 vinyl-version collecting these two 78rpm's as the A & B-side. Which is the most common version.

-and finally a special mention goes to Ìxtahuele - Dharmaland (from 2021)

Eden Ahbez's "Dharmaland," arranged and performed by Ìxtahuele, is the first-ever recording of this long-lost masterwork by the original hippie composer of "Nature Boy." Resurrected from Ahbez’s unrecorded sheet music, c. 1961-63, Ìxtahuele has woven an enchanted tapestry of mystic exotica and experimental pop that re-establishes the songwriter as a forefather of psychedelic music and brings his work into the present.

Here's a teaser with none other than Kadhja Bonet guesting on wordless vocals




That's a great list! I would also add Ìxtahuele's Call of the Islands. Come cocktail hour, I'll usually put on the exotica...goes well with a martini...
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The album Jewels of the Sea by Baxter must be heard. 

Rex Kona's Wild Orchids is one of my favorites, but mostly just a few songs, like the first one (which is the title track) and Patricia. 



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Originally posted by Criswell Criswell wrote:


That's a great list! I would also add Ìxtahuele's Call of the Islands. Come cocktail hour, I'll usually put on the exotica...goes well with a martini...
Thanks! Yes, although Dharmaland is my favorite project of theirs I really enjoy all of their albums.


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Here's ten more reccomendations:

Nino Nardini & Roger Roger - Jungle Obsession (1972)
Jimmy Namaro Trio - Driftwood (1959)
Robert Drasnin - Voodoo (1959)
Alex Serra - Il Continenente Mediterraneo (1974)
David Carroll and His Orchestra - Percussion Orientale (1960)
John Zorn - The Gift (2001)
Milt Raskin - Kapu (Forbidden) (1959)
Werner Müller - East of India (1959)
Ron Goodwin and His Orchestra - Music for an Arabian Night (1959)
Zespół Instrumentalny Marka Sewena - Księżyc na Tahiti (1969)
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

OP: Now this is exactly the kind of a golden thread that makes PA one of the best information sites on the Internet! I'd never even heard of this genre, though Eden Ahbez was an artist whose existence I'd only recently been exposed to. Fascinating! Thank you Robert Pearson, Schandor, and Rollon Duché de Normandie!
 
I hadn't heard of the genre, either. Recommended by Wikipedia, I decided to listen to:
 
Les Baxter - Ritual of the Savage
 
 
 
It kind of reminded me of this gem from 1968:
 
David Axelrod - Song of Innocence
 
 
 



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Never knew about this either. A few samples has me interested, so I'll have to check out some more. Thanks for the info.
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Les Baxter's Ritual of the Savage is pretty much counted as the birth of Exotica (he also produced and arranged those early Yma Sumac recordings too. But I think Martin Denny, whose debut album gave name to the genre is the ultimate Exotica artist. His music is so enchanting and strange. I own his first eight albums, and they're great fun. His version of Quiet Village actually reached no. 2 on the Billboard charts. Here you can see it performed on Webley Edwards Hawaii Calls-show:




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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

OP: Now this is exactly the kind of a golden thread that makes PA one of the best information sites on the Internet! 


Concur...there's a lot of smart, informed people here. And the discourse is refreshingly pleasant.

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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Here's ten more reccomendations:

Nino Nardini & Roger Roger - Jungle Obsession (1972)
Jimmy Namaro Trio - Driftwood (1959)
Robert Drasnin - Voodoo (1959)
Alex Serra - Il Continenente Mediterraneo (1974)
David Carroll and His Orchestra - Percussion Orientale (1960)
John Zorn - The Gift (2001)
Milt Raskin - Kapu (Forbidden) (1959)
Werner Müller - East of India (1959)
Ron Goodwin and His Orchestra - Music for an Arabian Night (1959)
Zespół Instrumentalny Marka Sewena - Księżyc na Tahiti (1969)

A few of these I was unaware of...thanks for sharing.

Going back to your first list, and relistening to some, I must admit that Yma Sumac is an acquired taste that I have failed to acquire...
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Originally posted by Criswell Criswell wrote:

Going back to your first list, and relistening to some, I must admit that Yma Sumac is an acquired taste that I have failed to acquire...
She is a taste I've acquired:) It may not work for you, but perhaps it's easier starting with just a collection to see if anything clicks. She's sort of extreme though. One of a kind artist. Bird imitator, an unmatched vocal range (she is/was in the Guinness book of records), wild arrangements. My actual favorite album by her is Legend of the Jivaro, but I suppose that's not an easier listen. Titles like Blood Festival and Whip Dance may give you an idea.

Here's my favorite song of hers. Completely bonkers:)

 






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I'm one of those who didn't have a clue about Exotica, so thanks for bringing this up and the recommendations! Fun stuff this!
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