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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeEnRegalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2023 at 15:50
I modified the results page a little bit to better visualize the participants. Still mostly (special) collabs ... you can change that with a couple of clicks

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^ Which ones?
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

1. Seven Impale - Summit {ap:55305}
2. Haken - Fauna {ap:53972}
3. Riverside - ID.Entity {ap:53198}
4. Lars Fredrik Frøislie - Fire Fortellinger {ap:55606}
5. Zopp - Dominion {ap:54131}
6. The Chronicles Of Father Robin - The Songs & Tales Of Airoea: Book 1 {ap:64307}
7. Jordsjø - Salighet {ap:65303}
8. The Chronicles Of Father Robin - The Songs & Tales Of Airoea: Book 2 {ap:65630}
9. Behold... the Arctopus - Interstellar Overtrove {ap:65835}
10. Baroness - Stone {ap:64605}
11. PoiL - Poil Ueda {ap:55644}
12. Deposed King - One Man's Grief {ap:54610}
13. Amoeba Split - Quiet Euphoria {ap:54888}
14. Homunculus Res - Ecco l'impero Dei Doppi Sensi {ap:64076}
15. Agusa - Prima Materia {ap:64672}
16. Blood Ceremony - The Old Ways Remain {ap:55491}
17. Il Cerchio d'Oro - Pangea E Le Tre Lune {ap:63477}
18. Andrea Orlando - La Scienza Delle Stagioni {ap:66620}
19. Ozric Tentacles - Lotus Unfolding {ap:65412}
20. Crown Lands - Fearless {ap:55192}


There are a few ideal suspects for the final PA 2023 top list in that list, IMHO.
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
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prefer lifting our pen
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeEnRegalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2023 at 15:32
^ All valid lists have been counted. Keep them coming!

@Lumenko: Your list is as good as any other, but in order to get it into the chart, you need to use the tool at AP to compile the list. It is necessary because the script which collects the results reads the { ap:... } markers. Without those your list simply cannot be scanned.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2023 at 10:25
It's against my nature, but I will try to come up with a list. Listing 20 albums isn't the most difficult part (from the 30 or so 2023 prog albums I listened to, thus far), ranking them is the most criminal part in the operation... I still want to listen to a couple of albums that I'm curious about (knowing that there are plenty that I'm not curious about at all) and waiting for the release of an album that I'm impatient to listen to but that will only come out at the end of next week...

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I'm sure your picks are fine, you just need to post them on that site.
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^^ Oh, I was terribly mistaken to believe that we should carry out the entire procedure on this page. I apologise. Please don't think my nominees are legitimate, and that's it.
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Originally posted by Lumenko Lumenko wrote:

These are my ten nominees. They are all in the Progarchives' database.

1. Dominic Sanderson "Impermanence"
2. Gong "Unending Ascending"
3. Ozric Tentacles "Lotus Unfolding"
4. Zopp "Dominion"
5. I Am The Manic Whale "Bumper Book of Mystery Stories"
6. Yes "Mirror to the Sky"
7. Uriah Heep "Chaos & Colour"
8. Napier's Bones "Cells"
9. Teeth of the Sea "Hive"
10. Big Big Train "Ingenious Devices"

You need to upload them here
Instructions are in the opening post of the thread.
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These are my ten nominees. They are all in the Progarchives' database.

1. Dominic Sanderson "Impermanence"
2. Gong "Unending Ascending"
3. Ozric Tentacles "Lotus Unfolding"
4. Zopp "Dominion"
5. I Am The Manic Whale "Bumper Book of Mystery Stories"
6. Yes "Mirror to the Sky"
7. Uriah Heep "Chaos & Colour"
8. Napier's Bones "Cells"
9. Teeth of the Sea "Hive"
10. Big Big Train "Ingenious Devices"
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^ I can and will tweak the chart in the coming days and weeks, I will of course add these statistics. Finally all the data will be exported and posted in a forum thread, just like with the previous polls, so that nobody needs to go to AP to see the results.

Specifically, I can of course determine who is a collab and who is not, and I'll be able to compile participant lists. We could also have separate charts (e.g. non-collabs, collabs and combined), which would be interesting. Some prog magazines do similar things (e.g. a readers chart and an editors chart). 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2023 at 21:25
^ Will, Traditionally the PA albums of the year has just been for collabs (aka, 4 and 5 star people plus VIP titled people). For years I have wanted this open to all members for greater input and collaboration from all who wish to take part. We have had lower turnout and I suggested that we open this up to our general community. Others agreed, which led to this topic. I don't regret it, but I was feeling rather insecure about this before George's list. Things got off to a bit of a rocky start, and insecure me was worried that this would not be received well. I was sad about the timing with your thread. Of course I did not know you would be making a topic. I wasn't thinking I made a mistake, more that I had been concerned that this might not be as well accepted or appreciated as I had hoped by the general community and those people whom I interact with at the forum. Just some poorly expressed casual banter from me. Sorry for not being clear.

One should be able to see the people who voted at Mike's site, I think. I was not planning to be the one to post the results. EDIT: and in this thread which is the thread for people to post their list. I would not expect the numbers of collabs and non-collabs to be posted in the results thread, but those who are interested can see who contributed from this thread and Mike's chart. It's important to me that it is a group effort and I would rather it not matter if one is a collab or not for participation. It's about the PA community coming together to do this.

The more people who participate, the more I would like it. Of course it's early days and I would not expect a lot of lists yet. I would not expect my list to be finalised before some time into January, and I;m sure some would rather wait

Edited by Logan - December 03 2023 at 22:06
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grumpyprogfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2023 at 19:49
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

^I interpreted Greg's comment to mean that he was thinking he made a mistake in asking for non-collaborators to participate because of lack of response.
It's only been two days since this thread was posted. I wouldn't say that is a lack of response. I interpreted Greg's comment differently. It's nice you stand up for him, but I would like him to explain.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mathman0806 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2023 at 18:35
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^^ Thanks George. I had asked to open this up to non-Collabs and got agreement and was beginning to wonder if that was a mistake, thinking there's a reason why people who opted to become Collabs would be more likely to participate (collaborate), and it's in the title of Collaborator. You would be a superb collab, by the way, but not all have the time or inclination.

I think it would be a wonderful participatory exercise if more people did collaborate on this. That said, there's still a while to go for this year, and some might want to wait. of course one can add to and edit ones choices later. I still have lots of listening to do and albums to discover.

I like that Goat album, had only heard it once. Had loved what I heard of Teeth of the Sea, and listening to the album now, and that will go to my list later I'm confident. Had heard some Agusa before too and liked it.


I don't always have the time to be a collaborator. I jumped in on this as I had taken some time off from work without going anywhere. Until then, I hadn't posted here for a few weeks.

Goat's tribal psych sound has appealed to me from the first time I have heard them. They are among the first "new" bands I learned about when I started reading PA forums 10 years ago. Their albums don't have many ratings but someone had written convincingly enough in a forum post that I listened to their debut album World Music. I streamed them through my Amazon account and that lead to my personal exploration and discovery of current psychedelic music artists.

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^I interpreted Greg's comment to mean that he was thinking he made a mistake in asking for non-collaborators to participate because of lack of response.

I think he wants non-collaborator participation and is not opposed to it.

This is only the first week in December so I think most people (collaborators and non) need time. My list will change. I know that. I have albums that I still want to hear.

But, I wanted to give some input now. And to give Mike's setup a try. It's really nice.

I think collaborators are more likely to hear a wide breadth of new releases and possibly more inclined to do so.

I think this system/set up is nice with the understanding to have people rank what they do know and you can see rankings as they happen.

I find it useful to see what is "popular" among participants in the forum rather than just having ratings. PA's limitation to whole number of stars doesn't help distinguish albums.

I prefer these types of lists over just ratings to get recommendations for myself.   
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I had asked to open this up to non-Collabs and got agreement and was beginning to wonder if that was a mistake, thinking there's a reason why people who opted to become Collabs would be more likely to participate (collaborate), and it's in the title of Collaborator.
Participate and collaborate are not the same. Paul and David should be Collaborators if participating is the only criteria.

I'm disappointed that you (an administrator) think non-collabs input in this poll was a "mistake".

Care to explain your comment? And when the results are complete could you post how many collabs and non-collabs participated?

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^^ Thanks George. I had asked to open this up to non-Collabs and got agreement and was beginning to wonder if that was a mistake, thinking there's a reason why people who opted to become Collabs would be more likely to participate (collaborate), and it's in the title of Collaborator. You would be a superb collab, by the way, but not all have the time or inclination.

I think it would be a wonderful participatory exercise if more people did collaborate on this. That said, there's still a while to go for this year, and some might want to wait. of course one can add to and edit ones choices later. I still have lots of listening to do and albums to discover.

I like that Goat album, had only heard it once. Had loved what I heard of Teeth of the Sea, and listening to the album now, and that will go to my list later I'm confident. Had heard some Agusa before too and liked it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeEnRegalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2023 at 02:52
^ Nice! Added to the chart Smile

Only 9 users have voted, but there‘s already 118 releases in the chart. 2023 is a really good year for prog!

Edited by MikeEnRegalia - December 03 2023 at 03:17
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Still waiting for the first non-collab list ... Cool
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^ You just post a new list in this thread, and your chart will be updated when I collect the results ... 

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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Look for the dropdown on the results page in the right column, you can select which user to display.

Right, got that, how do I edit it to add new stuff and resort?
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