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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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Camel are bubblegum prog

This one hurts. Ouch I don't know which Camel album made you conclude with this insult. 
If you dislike the band, that's fine, but no need to belittle a band so much. 
Am I belittling them by calling them bubblegum prog?? I don't dislike them actually, I just don't feel they added anything new to the prog sphere - just a convenient starter band for those looking to try prog.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Also, I think Post Rock and Math Rock subgenres should be separated on PA, because of how different they are. Even more different than Prog Metal and Tech/Extreme Prog Metal.

I never understood the term "math rock."  ALL rock (in fact, all music) is ultimately based upon mathematics.  This goes back to Greek philosopher Pythagorus, at least:


Similarly, "Post Rock" makes no sense, unless there has been a complete halt in the evolution or rock music. 

Post what?  Post electric guitars?  Post drum kits?  

Bloody nonsense, all these arbitrary terms.  Same for prog metal/extreme prog metal.  Here's some extreme prog metal for you, none finer.  
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Also, I think Post Rock and Math Rock subgenres should be separated on PA, because of how different they are. Even more different than Prog Metal and Tech/Extreme Prog Metal.

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Jazz fusion/jazz rock is not prog
I couldn't agree more that some of the greatest fusion albums are actually not prog albums. Miles Davis' "Bitches Brew," for example, doesn't come close to being "prog." However, some albums that fall into the fusion category are prog albums as well, such as "Gazeuse!" by Gong or "Bundles" by the Soft Machine.


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The best Pink Floyd song ever is "Welcome to the Machine".
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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

'The Final Cut is a better album than 'The Wall'.
"Endless River" is also a better album than "The Wall".
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The "worst" YES album still sounds better than the best Gentle Giant album. Geek

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

The "worst" YES album is still better than the best Gentle Giant album. Geek

Open Your Eyes vs Octopus, hmmmmm.... you know this is actually harder than I thought Wink
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Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

The "worst" YES album is still better than the best Gentle Giant album. Geek

Open Your Eyes vs Octopus, hmmmmm.... you know this is actually harder than I thought Wink
I gave all of Gentle Giant's albums a generous 3-star rating when I listened to them for the first time about three years ago, but it's only after listening to them all again recently that I realised I'd overrated many of them. Embarrassed
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The easier it is to classify something under a genre label, the less progressive it actually is. 
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^^ they must of really rubbed you the wrong way lol
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Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

^^ they must of really rubbed you the wrong way lol
I'm just not a fan of Derek Shulman whose cheese-grater voice is sort of like singing, but different somehow. Confused
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

^^ they must of really rubbed you the wrong way lol
I'm just not a fan of Derek Shulman whose cheese-grater voice is sort of like singing, but different somehow. Confused

Never thought I would hear Giant compared to a cheese-grater, but then I don't even know what a cheese-grater sounds like
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PG's I/O album cover is dreadful!
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^^ it's like his million $ camera filter could not decide what it wants to do - should his hand morph into his head or not?? Or they could not decide which looked better, so they decided to include both (hay ay ay) 
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Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

PG's I/O album cover is dreadful!

It is, but it's not quite as bad as 'Balls To The Wall' by Accept. Confused

Accept – Balls To The Wall (2002, CD) - Discogs
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^^ that's a better album cover!
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Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:


PG's I/O album cover is dreadful!


It is, but it's not quite as bad as 'Balls To The Wall' by Accept. Confused

Accept – Balls To The Wall (2002, CD) - Discogs


Isn't it from a Wham ' shooting session ?
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Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

^^ they must of really rubbed you the wrong way lol
I'm just not a fan of Derek Shulman whose cheese-grater voice is sort of like singing, but different somehow. Confused

Never thought I would hear Giant compared to a cheese-grater, but then I don't even know what a cheese-grater sounds like
Derek Shulman's voice to me is what a cheese-grater is to cheese. They both grate. Confused
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Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

PG's I/O album cover is dreadful!

I like it but then I was listening to the album (and staring at the artwork) quite drunk!
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