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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

The ConstruKction of Light is King Crimson's best album.

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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Just because they use vintage instruments doesn't mean Wobbler is that amazing (they're alright).


I love Wobbler because of their arrangements, songwriting, passionate vocals, and incredible instrumental performance. :P The fact they use vintage instruments is something I don't care about at all tbh.
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Just because they use vintage instruments doesn't mean Wobbler is that amazing (they're alright).
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Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Cool take: Had Christian Vander guested on an album with Peter Hammill and friends, Vander Graaf Generator would have been a cool name.
 
Perhaps. Maybe I'm biased but I think the spelling of "Van der Graaf Generator" is more appealing than the correct spelling "Van de Graaff Generator".
 

That is not the correct spelling
 


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Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

Well... see... I think Rush get more credit than they deserve in the prog acolyte circle - it's nothing but washed metal production and relentless riffage; when they tried to prog they sounded trite and uninspired. 

Thanks to Rush, the following decades of 'prog' metal became 'prog' by numbers; where's the prog if everything sounds the same?! 

I don't deny any of them being superb musicians, but technicality doesn't imply originality or evocativeness. 

I disagree about Rush being "trite and uninspired". Constantly?! I don't think so. They have some albums more inspired and creative than others, like any other band, but "trite"? No way. 

Also, Rush was not the only inspiration for what would become progressive metal. 
Even in progressive metal, there is a diversity, everything sounding the same is an exaggeration. 
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Cool take: Had Christian Vander guested on an album with Peter Hammill and friends, Vander Graaf Generator would have been a cool name.
 
Perhaps. Maybe I'm biased but I think the spelling of "Van der Graaf Generator" is more appealing than the correct spelling "Van de Graaff Generator".
 

That is not the correct spelling
 

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I considered the username ChristianVanderGraaf for this forum actually.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Cool take: Had Christian Vander guested on an album with Peter Hammill and friends, Vander Graaf Generator would have been a cool name.
 
Perhaps. Maybe I'm biased but I think the spelling of "Van der Graaf Generator" is more appealing than the correct spelling "Van de Graaff Generator".
 
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For me, I rather dislike Gabriel as a singer, and I prefer Phil Collin singing. I'm not fond of John Wetton singing either. I prefer the drumming of Chris Maitland in Coma Divine than that of Gavin Harrison in all his Porcupine Tree albums. I like The Division Bell better than Dark Side of the Moon. I think Roger Waters is a good singer.
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Well... see... I think Rush get more credit than they deserve in the prog acolyte circle - it's nothing but washed metal production and relentless riffage; when they tried to prog they sounded trite and uninspired. 

Thanks to Rush, the following decades of 'prog' metal became 'prog' by numbers; where's the prog if everything sounds the same?! 

I don't deny any of them being superb musicians, but technicality doesn't imply originality or evocativeness. 
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Desolation Rose is The Flower Kings' best album.
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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

^There are people who don't like Baker St. Muse??!?!
I've seen some comments from some fans saying it lacks inspiration. To me, it's a great piece of music, full of inspiration and exciting.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

It's okay to be passionate for a band (too much praise is never a bad thing)


Comment received, the Eagles are one of the greatest bands of all time. And never made a bad song (not Prog, even they had a couple proggy moments here and there 'Journey of the Sorcerer')

In terms of Prog.. Starless and Buble Black over LTIA, and Islands over Lizard
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Six Wives Of Henry VIII is the best instrumental prog album
Supertramp were a full on prog band
Tangerine Dream made better albums after the 70's
Eloy were the best prog band between 1973 and 1982
'Clone bands' is not a thing
Alternative music is not prog
King Crimson didn't invent prog rock















No, King Crimson didn't invent prog because no one band or artist did. 
It's only a clone band if a band sets out to try to sound as much as a band as possible. I think Unifaun might be the only band who qualifies in that regard (as a Genesis clone although I never actually heard them).
What was the best decade for TD then? The 80s? 
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It's okay to be passionate for a band (too much praise is never a bad thing)
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^War Child is a great album!

IQ gets too much praise, and Peter Nicholls singing is like fingernails on a chalkboard.


Edited by Grumpyprogfan - November 28 2023 at 05:02
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^Oh no, I STRONGLY dislike that album. Bored me to tears. Same with The Final Cut (Floyd's worst album by a MILE)
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