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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ I've changed the thread title as suggested and yet you're still not happy. You're Unbelievable! Tongue


You do not understand my point or are you trolling again? The irrelevant videos point to that. 
To be honest, I can't stand that "irrelevant" EMF song. I'd sooner listen to Opeth. Wacko

Oh, so you're in trolling mode. I'll leave you to it. 



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^ Not to worry, I've now deleted EMF's "Unbelievable" song, seeing as it's unlikely to appeal to any self-respecting prog fans. Now we're both happy. Smile
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A-Z of Classic German Prog

It's our Turn to Remember John Lawton (1946-2021): a great singer with Lucifer's Friend, the Les Humphries Singers, and of course, Uriah Heep. He's also best-known for his frizzy hair-style and for wearing more dark eye mascara than Dusty Springfield. Tongue


4 stars 1970: Asterix (pre-Lucifer's Friend) - Asterix - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp9eK7b01bQ
4 stars 1970: Lucifer's Friend - Lucifer's Frend - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGYLWwbiaik
3 stars 1972: Lucifer's Friend - Where the Groupies Killed the Blues - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRfWufBEekU
3 stars 1973: Lucifer's Friend - I'm Just a Rock 'n' Roll Singer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-koxLa77cSc
4 stars 1978: Lucifer's Friend - Live at Rockpalast - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD_nzvEGf7Q
3 stars 1981: Lucifer's Friend - Mean Machine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSalEk40NfE
3 stars 1994: Lucifer's Friend II - Sumogrip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nDbo4_1xHk

 


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Message from the U-Bahn (or German underground)..... Sorry if I've been neglecting this classic German prog blog of late, but the last six months have literally flown by since featuring Lucifer's Friend here previously. And while we're on the subject of Lucifer's Friend, it's My Turn To Remember John Lawton, who's probably best-known for his three heap-good albums with Uriah Heep. Anyway, now that I've finally wrapped things up on my Prog Britannia blog for the rest of this year, that will hopefully Free Me to spend more time on this blog and the message is that Krautrock band Message are coming up here next with some Astral Journeys in the sphere of Psychedelic/Space Rock.  Maybe Tomorrow, When the Dawn Anew is Coming, I'll be back here with their first of seven albums. 
Watch this space.  Smile



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A quick reminder of the Krautrock artists featured here so far (with the number of albums in brackets)

Agitation Free  (8)
Between  (6)
The Cosmic Jokers  (5)
Dom  (1)
Eloy  (24)
Edgar Froese  (8)
Guru Guru  (30)
Hoelderlin  (9)
Iblis  (1)
Jane  (33)
Kraan  (20)
Lucifer's Friend  (14)

And still to come.....

Message
Novalis
Out of Focus
Passport
Quaeschning & Schnauss
Rufus Zuphall
Klaus Schulze
Triumvirat
Utopia 
Virgin's Dream
Wallenstein
Xhol Caravan/Xhol
Yatha Sidhra
Zomby Woof
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A-Z of Classic German Prog

4 stars 1972: Message - The Dawn Anew is Coming - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNjWr9QFH-w
5 stars 1973: Message - From Books and Dreams - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOG0cT2PiBM
4 stars 1976: Message - Synapse - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM8QlW-v2Yo
3 stars 1977: Message - Using the Head
3 stars 1978: Message - Astral Journeys
                 1980: Message - Miles of Smiles
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Krautrock: The Rebirth of Germany

"From 1968 - 77 German bands like Neu!, Can, Faust, Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk looked beyond US/UK rock 'n roll to create some of the most original and uncompromising music ever heard. They shared one common goal. A forward-looking desire to transcend Germany's gruesome past. But that didn't stop the music press in war-obsessed Britain from calling them "Krautrock"". "Members of "Can" spotted Damo Suzuki behaving strangely in the street and hired him on the spot to be their vocalist, shoving him onstage the same evening with no rehearsals. Incredibly, actor David Niven came to hear them play, and they asked him what he thought of the music. "It was great," he said, "but I didn't know it was music." Suzuki doesn't remember, "because at the time I was quite stoned."" "This brilliant documentary examines how a radical generation of musicians created a new German musical identity out of the cultural ruins of war – and music which inspired Bowie, Eno, Iggy Pop and countless musicians today. " - Documentary first broadcast in 2009 on BBC4.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Krautrock: The Rebirth of Germany
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Hi,

Thanks for posting this ... I had been looking for it for a while, because some of the things stated by many of the folks are really important, and something that I wish that more "progressive" folks would listen to and relate to ... you had to do something different, and go against the grain ... and for me it was no DAW and then do something that was not like Western music at all ... which, of course, is the new schlagger ... rock music!

But above all, this whole scene also included many well known composers and musicians from the classical or experimental eras, and this is something that rock music is afraid of ... it takes it all away from the "common sound" that all rock bands have!

If you want to create, you, just about literally, have to rebel against the norm ... and this is the hard part to express here on PA ... about "new music", when folks are awaiting for Godot to come back to life!
Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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 A-Z of German Krautrock (Kosmische Musik) 

 4 stars 1973: 18 Karat Gold - All-Bumm - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnTMfN-WCVI

 4 stars 1977: A. G. am - Erinnerungen an eine Positive Phase - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_o6YNaXrZg

 3 stars 1971: A.R. & Machines - Die Grune Reise (The Green Journey) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkEGtS6lD9Y
 3 stars 1972: A.R. & Machines - Echo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXuZBkjRj7k
 3 stars 1972: A.R. & Machines - A.R. 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1RVESVk_Ys
 3 stars 1973: A.R. & Machines - A.R. IV - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkckUn8ojb4

 4 stars 2019: Acid Rooster - Acid Rooster - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAkvcnllCGM
 4 stars 2023: Acid Rooster - Flowers & Dead Souls - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4PVoxvgpqA

 4 stars 1973: Agitation Free - 2nd - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFlL8i-33u0
 4 stars 1974: Agitation Free - Fragments: Live - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0HZG3ME9cA
 4 stars 1976: Agitation Free - Last - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_dp5mtDfF8
 5 stars 1998: Agitation Free - At the Cliffs of River Rhine (Recorded Live in 1974) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngE9aZvKsbY
 4 stars 1999: Agitation Free - The Other Sides of Agitation Free - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVlevU2-yH0
 5 stars 2007: Agitation Free - Shibuya Nights: Live in Tokyo - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nmV8b19Ez9Eom6a4y8efkxy2BWpGpSKb4

 4 stars 1973: Ainigma - Diluvium - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHhRVznFWZc

 3 stars 1973: Air - Teilweise Kacke... Aber Stereo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ__SRVOUMs

 4 stars 1972: Alcatraz - Vampire State Building - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydpe6oqV4qM
 2 stars 1978: Alcatraz - Energie Programm in Rock
 4 stars 1980: Alcatraz - Live: Trockeneis zum Fruhstuck - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn9KFL47zTI
 3 stars 1982: Alcatraz - No. 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlLzUBS-nJo

 4 stars 1973: Alex Oriental Experience - Tales of Purple Sally - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSfsmSyeJ2M
 4 stars 1982: Alex Oriental Experience - Fairytales and Promises - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuXotm8FLzU
 5 stars 2007: Alex Oriental Experience - Anthology: More Than 40 Years of Rock - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n2J8on8jF_PU4mnhMnhRU-mTayNCAe-uA

 5 stars 1975: Altona - Altona - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnOP8ANiPh0
 4 stars 1975: Altona - Chickenfarm - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n9QWCcgzRc

 2 stars 1969: Amon Duul - Collapsing: Singvogel Ruckwarts & Co. - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lH_vj-_YL2uLUUcOu2J_7CfHOstRxEqhE
 2 stars 1983: Amon Duul - Experimente - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlRhg401IA

 3 stars 1973: Amon Duul II - BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz5ZfePX5P4
 4 stars 1976: Amon Duul II - Pyragony X - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QI3VM_lLOc
 4 stars 1977: Amon Duul II - Almost Alive - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PRkLPHf8c0
 3 stars 1981: Amon Duul II - Vortex - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhtDEufzQ3U
 4 stars 1995: Amon Duul II - Nada Moonshine # - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXGOPJR9mmg
 3 stars 1995: Amon Duul II - Live in Munich - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lbvDmNaofk
 3 stars 1996: Amon Duul II - Eternal Flashback - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9hR4FTfGsQ
 3 stars 1996: Amon Duul II - Live in Tokyo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6UMTE_aVkI

 2 stars 1971: Anima-Sound - Sturmischer Himmel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhaEyti70wQ
 2 stars 1971: Anima-Sound - Musik fur Alle - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPUeo9D-Nc4

 4 stars 1970: Annexus Quam - Osmose - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYlUcCcqfXo

 5 stars 2012: Aphodyl - Magnet - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_VZv0cHHV0


 4 stars 1973: Arktis - Arktis - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GUU0WGhAmo
 4 stars 1975: Arktis - Arktis Tapes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MYdY3zPvjM
 4 stars 1975: Arktis - More Arktis Tapes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh0iCHUw4pI
 4 stars 1976: Arktis - On the Rocks - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-mqWALumhw

 4 stars 1971: Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxUycrXb6eQ
 3 stars 1972: Ash Ra Tempel - Schwingungen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpHdPdxNxU4
 4 stars 1973: Ash Ra Tempel - Join Inn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fqpc64kDv0
 4 stars 1973: Ash Ra Tempel - Starring Rosi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1da0hk623F4
 4 stars 1973: Ash Ra Tempel & Timothy Leary - Seven Up - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjMwy67lFQg
 3 stars 1975: Ash Ra Tempel - Le Berceau de Cristal (soundtrack) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVPGzOHIIgz_OcHc7jTGb3J9R4S1728Rz
 5 stars 2000: Ash Ra Tempel - Friendship (with Klaus Schulze) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-UvObqiyVg

 4 stars 1970: Asterix - Asterix - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_DA16q8UZA

 4 stars 1993: Attempt to Restore - Alpha Collection 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_bqsohO2EE
                  


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I can't really say if I've posted in this thread before, but I love a lot of German classic progressive music, 
and my current collection of Krautrock, Prog Rock and Progressive Electronic consists of:

Agitation Free  (D)                           Malesch    (Amber Soundroom, 2004 D, 170g, a. 2006, 700)         (1972)

Amon Düül II  (D)                           Yeti        (1. Strand/Teldec, 1978 D, 2LP, 125g, a. 2019, 500;          (1970)

                                                                                     2. CD, Repertoire, 1992 D, a. 2019, 250)

Amon Düül II                                   Wolf City       (United Artists, 1972 US, 115g, a. 2004, 500)             (1972)

Ash Ra Tempel  (D)                         Ash Ra Tempel       (CD, MG.ART, 2011 D, a. 2012, 150)               (1971)

Can  (D)                                           Tago Mago       (CD, Spoon/Mute, 2007 US, a. 2016, 150)            (1971)

Can                                                  Ege Bamyasi               (United Artists/uofficiel, 2006 US,                (1973)

                                                                                                                grøn 150g, a. 2006, 400) 

Can                                                  Future Days                     (United Artist/Ariola-Eurodisc,                 (1973)

                                                                                        1975/8? ESP/UK, 135g, a. 2006, 600)

Electric Sandwich  (D)                     Electric Sandwich                      (CD, Repertoire/Brain,                  (1973)  

                                                                                              1997 UK & Eu (fake), a. 2016, 100)

Eloy  (D)                                           Inside                      (Harvest, 1977 D, 125g, a. 2016, 250)          (1973)

Eloy                                                 Floating                  (Harvest, 1977 D, 125g, a. 2016, 300)            (1974)

Eloy                                                 Ocean                     (Harvest, 1977 D, 130g, a. 2004, 300)           (1977)

Embryo  (D)                                     We Keep On        (1. BASF, 1974 US, 135g, a. 2007, 500;            (1973)

                                                                       2. CD, Disconforme, 1999 Andorra, a. 2019, 600)

Faust  (D)                                         Faust IV                 (Virgin, 1973 UK, 145g, a. 2008, 700)            (1973)

Edgar Froese  (D)                            Ypsilon in Malaysian Pale          (Brain, 1975 D, 110g,                 (1975)

                                                                                                               a. 2005 (opr. 1976), 350)  

Gila – Free Electric Sound  (D)       Gila                     (LRS/Peak, 1983 D, 130g, a. 2008, 800)           (1971)

Guru Guru  (D)                                 Hinten        (CD, Ohr/Zyx, 1993 D, a. 2018 (opr. ‘10), 150)         (1970)

Harmonia  (D)                                  Musik Von Harmonia                   (CD, Brain/Universal,               (1974)

                                                                                                                    2010 D, a. 2011, 200)      

Michael Hoenig  (D)                        Departure From The Northern Wasteland            (1978)

                                                                     (Warner Bros., 1978 US promo, 130g, a. 2008, 300)

Hölderlin  (D)                                   Hölderlins Traum    (1. Think Progressive, 1998 D, 180g,            (1972)

                                                                        a. 2006, 250; 2. CD, Spalax, 1997 F, a. 2018, 200)

Kraan  (D)                                        Kraan                (Intercord, 1975 ESP, 130g, a. 2019, 500)         (1972)

NEU!  (D)                                         NEU!                (CD, P-Vine, 2001 J, a. 2021 (opr.’11), 300)       (1972)

Orange Peel  (D)                             Orange Peel              (CMP, 2003 D, 180g, a. 2019, 400)            (1970)

Out of Focus  (D)                             Wake UP                          (Missing Vinyl, 2009 GRE/D,               (1970)

                                                                                                                180g, a. 2011, 200)

Pell Mell  (D)                                   Marburg             (Bellaphon, 1975 D, 145g, a. 2019, 250)            (1972)

Scorpions  (D)                                 Lonesome Crow           (CD, SPV, 2005 D, a. 2017, 150)             (1972)

Tangerine Dream  (D)                     Stratosfear                               (Virgin, 1976 UK, 120g,                 (1976)

                  a.1996 (opr.’76), 250)



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^ And here's my entire CD collection of Krautrock...

3 stars 1979: Holger Czukay - Movies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwLGnGqx2s
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ And here's my entire CD collection of Krautrock...

3 stars 1979: Holger Czukay - Movies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwLGnGqx2s

Not much Big smile , but you've listened to quite a lot of it already. Thumbs Up


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ And here's my entire CD collection of Krautrock...

3 stars 1979: Holger Czukay - Movies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwLGnGqx2s

Not much Big smile , but you've listened to quite a lot of it already. Thumbs Up
That's true. I could have extended my Krautrock CD collection to 18 albums if I'd included Edgar Froese and Tangerine Dream too. Smile
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Okay, I don't know exactly how you define "German Prog", I've listed all my German progressive music. Smile
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Okay, I don't know exactly how you define "German Prog", I've listed all my German progressive music. Smile
I can also add Frumpy to my CD list of German prog albums.....



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Hi,

Watched that special again about "Krautrock" and it amazes me how much it speaks for the way that one can create something "new" ... instead of the copy cat formats and constant sounds of so much music that is considered "progressive" and has no originality in it whatsoever.

It takes more than ... it's hard to describe it, but you have to have a sense of your own self a lot more than you would a sense about rock music, or some lyrics, or ideas ... in many ways, you create something new WITHOUT ideas, and the "ideas" come out of the new music afterwards by folks listening to it ... and its difference.

Wonderful special, and it is very important that they stuck to creating "out of nothing", something that too many rock musicians are not capable of doing these days. However, it is important that the "scene" also include film, painting and literature, so that one can have a better sense of identity and learning  and this is what so much rock music today, that is listed (check out all the 2023 listings!!!), is missing so badly ... because the best they can do is ... sadly ... the same thing! Schlagger!
Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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^ A pint of schlager and a packet of crisps please. Tongue

An interesting fact about Krautrock is it also includes snooker player Steve Davis of The Utopia Strong trio. Smile


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


I can't really say if I've posted in this thread before, but I love a lot of German classic progressive music, 
and my current collection of Krautrock, Prog Rock and Progressive Electronic consists of:

Ash Ra Tempel  (D)                         Ash Ra Tempel       (CD, MG.ART, 2011 D, a. 2012, 150)               (1971)


In the spirit of Friendship, if you like Ash Ra Tempel, then check out their latest year 2000 album with Klaus Schulze. Thumbs Up

5 stars 2000: Ash Ra Tempel - Friendship (with Klaus Schulze) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-UvObqiyVg


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Agitation Free - Malesch is my all-time favorite Krautrock album.  Don't get me wrong, I adore Can and Amon Duul II more than Agitation Free.   However, Malesch is creme-de-la-creme Kraut for me.Wink  

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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Agitation Free - Malesch is my all-time favorite Krautrock album.  Don't get me wrong, I adore Can and Amon Duul II more than Agitation Free.   However, Malesch is creme-de-la-creme Kraut for me.Wink  

I've been exploring Japanese Krautrock recently (Yes, there really is such a thing) and this is the night when the original German Krautrockers came to Tokyo in an album that represents the absolute creme-de-menthe of Krautrock for me. Smile

5 stars 2007: Agitation Free - Shibuya Nights: Live in Tokyo - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nmV8b19Ez9Eom6a4y8efkxy2BWpGpSKb4


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