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    Posted: November 18 2023 at 12:20
Why does prog get such a bad rap sometimes...maybe because of sh*te like this !
What other Sloggy Prog have you heard ?




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sloggy, sloogy - I don't know what it means TBH
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slog´gy (slǒg´gŷ)


Sluggish
Somnolence that is sloggy slumbering
- Chaucer.

In essence...a BAD thing


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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

slog´gy (slǒg´gŷ)


Sluggish
Somnolence that is sloggy slumbering
- Chaucer.

In essence...a BAD thing

OK
so, in this thread you ask for examples of prog bands users think are bad? 
Way to open the Pandora's box... LOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

slog´gy (slǒg´gŷ)


Sluggish
Somnolence that is sloggy slumbering
- Chaucer.

In essence...a BAD thing

OK
so, in this thread you ask for examples of prog bands users think are bad? 
Way to open the Pandora's box... LOL
Yeah, but this example seems particularly horrendous. The lyrics are terrible as is the cadence in which they are sung. The music is boring and repetitive and sound more like patched together beats than a band.
All MY opinion obviously, it just struck me hard as being a truly failed attempt. That's all.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2023 at 13:04
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

slog´gy (slǒg´gŷ)


Sluggish
Somnolence that is sloggy slumbering
- Chaucer.

In essence...a BAD thing

OK
so, in this thread you ask for examples of prog bands users think are bad? 
Way to open the Pandora's box... LOL
Yeah, but this example seems particularly horrendous. The lyrics are terrible as is the cadence in which they are sung. The music is boring and repetitive and sound more like patched together beats than a band.
All MY opinion obviously, it just struck me hard as being a truly failed attempt. That's all.

I understand what you say and even agree (with your example), but I just hope this thread DOES NOT become an invitation for negativity. 


Edited by Cristi - November 19 2023 at 00:17
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Why does prog get such a bad rap sometimes...

Not everyone wants to carefully listen to a nine-minute tome on the plight of the Canadian Prairie Chicken.   It makes them nervous and I don't blame them.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."   -- John F. Kennedy
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:


 
It sounds a bit Canterbury-ish to me.
 

No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2023 at 22:17
There's plenty of more recent so-called prog out there created by (mostly) men with megalomaniacal ambitions - but without the skills, the knowledge or the smarts to convincingly carry their highflying concepts. Compared to more basic popular music double albums with 20 minute + compositions, make prog extra vulnerable to (often well deserved) ridicule. Whenever I hear some modern progressive rock or metal that unsuccessfully tries to pull off a fusion of say theater and fairground music with double bass drums, melodic pop-choruses, industrial keyboards and growling... that's an extra level of awful rarely experienced anywhere else. But I still appreciate ambition and won't name names. Not today at least:)
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Yeah that is AWFUL! So what's the big deal? Good prog, bad prog. Listen to the good, flush the bad. This is honestly one of the worst things i've ever heard actually :D

If someone's first prog experience was this then surely they would run to the hills.

Luckily everyone has heard Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull and a few other super popular acts so peeps be knowin' that good prog exists.

Sloggy? How about Vomit-inducing :D

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I just hope this thread DOES NOT become an invitation for negativity. 

I quote myself since I wrote something completely wrong yesterday, I forgot to add the negative in a sentence. 
My bad... Embarrassed
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Yeah that is AWFUL! So what's the big deal? Good prog, bad prog. Listen to the good, flush the bad. This is honestly one of the worst things i've ever heard actually :D

If someone's first prog experience was this then surely they would run to the hills.

Luckily everyone has heard Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull and a few other super popular acts so peeps be knowin' that good prog exists.

Sloggy? How about Vomit-inducing :D
Hug  Thanks for the validation. I knew I couldn't be the only one. I was truly stunned by it. That's all.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2023 at 06:54
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Why does prog get such a bad rap sometimes...

Not everyone wants to carefully listen to a nine-minute tome on the plight of the Canadian Prairie Chicken.   It makes them nervous and I don't blame them.

Easy there chief ! We Canadians are very proud of, and concerned about, the plight of the Canadian Prairie Chicken. It's a cause close to my heart. LOL
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Copycat prog rock based on a formula. This stuff started showing up around 1972. From 1966 to 1972 every progressive rock record was a unique adventure and no two bands sounded alike. Buying a new record was somewhat unpredictable in a good way. Then around 72 the formula developed. There was now a bandwagon for people to jump on.
For people who turned to jazz fusion for something new, formulaic copycat fusion started showing up in about 1976.
Fortunately there is still a lot of music being made that is fresh and original, but that posted video would not be any of that.

Edited by Easy Money - November 19 2023 at 08:03
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