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 Topic: King Crimson Documentary Opening November 3rdPosted: November 03 2023 at 16:21 |
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King Crimson’s “In The Court Of The Crimson King – King Crimson At 50” Documentary By Toby Amies Coming To Select US Theaters Opening November 3rd! OPENING IN OVER 70+ US THEATERS NOVEMBER 3RD King Crimson’s “In The Court Of The Crimson King – King Crimson At 50” documentary By Toby Amies is coming to select US theaters opening November 3rd! Just as King Crimson has been, for more than half a century, an atypical rock band, this film is a refreshingly atypical music documentary. A film about the sacrifices we need to make to bring things of beauty and meaning into the world. But with jokes. Toby Amies’s film “In The Court of the Crimson King – King Crimson at 50” provides a unique insight into the working process of a complex touring band, interspersed with contributions from previous band members to provide a contextual backdrop to the band’s past, as the most recent (2014-2021) line-up tours the world just before and during its 50th anniversary. As King Crimson producer and band manager, David Singleton observed of the film: “All of life is here, not just music, and certainly not just rock. It has rightly been described as going beyond King Crimson into a ‘universal, inspirational study of what it is to work or dream to work as an artist.’” While director Toby Amies writes of the experience: “In the Court of the Crimson King is not a film that wants to tell the audience what to think, rather it presents several different points of view about the creative process and what it means to be in this most unusual band; leaving the audience with a sense of both how complicated it all is, but also just how incredibly rewarding the King Crimson experience is both for the musicians and its fans.” Robert Fripp announced that King Crimson had “moved from sound to silence” on social media after their final date in Japan in December 2021, making this release all the more poignant as a unique record of the band’s longest lasting line-up with tantalizing glimpses of the band’s history. Watch the promotional video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg3osMG5yK4
photo by Tony Levin Here’s what the press has said about “In The Court Of The Crimson King – King Crimson At 50”: “The film is angular and abrasive, exacting and playful, extremely funny and achingly melancholy.” - THE OBSERVER “This unflinching portrait of the prog rock band is like an episode of The Office but with huge drum kits, grizzled roadies and rapturous fans” - THE GUARDIAN “By turns comical and melancholy, it may be the most revealing film about working life in a band since Spinal Tap.” - THE DAILY TELEGRAPH “A fascinating look at both a venerable institution, the dynamics of working as a multi-limbed unit that’s ruled by a single iron fist, and what it takes to play this type of music.” - ROLLING STONE “Doc about a Prog-Rock Perfectionist Is Nearly Perfect Itself. About as good as Rock documentaries get.” – VARIETY “Revelatory” - UNCUT “A compelling insight into the tetchy men of prog rock. Their dedication to music is a joy, the persistence of Toby Amies ranks alongside Nick Broomfield. Even if you go in knowing next to nothing about King Crimson, you will leave feeling like lifelong enthusiasts.” - BBC RADIO SCOTLAND / RADIO TIMES, Siobhan Synnot “The film ponders mortality, why music matters, and the sacrifices that bringing difficult art to the stage entails.” - THE TIMES “In The Court of the Crimson King : King Crimson at 50 goes straight into the pantheon of those documentaries which enable us to appreciate the painful truth of what being in bands is actually like...there is no higher echelon.” - MOJO COMING TO SELECT THEATERS INCLUDING LA & NY Synopsis: Directed by: Featuring: Produced by: Executive Producers: Running Time: 86 minutes **SCREENERS AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST FOR INTERVIEWS AND REVIEWS ** To request a link please contact: [email protected] Press inquiries: Glass Onyon PR, PH: 828-350-8158 (USA), [email protected] |
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Posted: November 03 2023 at 16:28 |
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Gotta go ! |
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Posted: November 03 2023 at 18:20 |
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Awesome documentary. It's not coming to my home town, but I bought the video over a year ago. Have watched it many times.
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Hi,
Just got my tickie ... will review it afterwards. (later) Nice. Enjoyable, despite the last 20 minutes being very sad all around, but a tip of the hat for the appreciation of the music and what it means to one person TO BE THERE with it, to the end. You really can't ask much more of a person than that! I'm trying to write a review, but words to start it off with are failing me at this point ... but there are some outstanding moments in it all ... and something that most musicians do not understand ... you don't play for the count ... you play with the other folks and listen to them so you can stay with them. The majority of bands these days, are too married to the count to know how to take the music one step higher, but if the drummer only knows one thing, the story is over! Watching those 3 guys in the documentary says so much more about musicianship than we can possibly imagine or understand, for that matter ... and in this sense, this is an incredible picture, of a special band ... something that is very rare in the street mandated and found progressive music of today, where talent is just counting!
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Posted: November 03 2023 at 18:53 |
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It's excellent
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Apparently the film will be widely available from 1st December. I wonder if Fripp craps all over Greg Lake's contribution to the band as he normally does? The 2 of them never did kiss and make up both growing up in the Bournemouth area and were major young talents. Fripp said he only picked him for the band because he was good looking.
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Any links (or books) about Lake's contribution? Even the criticism heard above ^ (I did just finish Greg's book, but it was very diplomatic, where Keith's book gives more of himself) Hopefully someone posts the documentary online!
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Hi, I'm looking for Greg Lake's book. I did find it sad to not have heard from him in various clips, but even in the ELP stuff, I do not remember GL say anything about KC at all, or how he felt about leaving one band for another, although I think that what ELP had to offer was better for him, than the regimented and studious way that KC was designed to be and rehearsed for. I would think that the KC film maker had too much stuff for this, and that a longer version might even appear somewhere on the KC website, with more folks in it ... but after all these years, and the success that it has brought the band, I sincerely doubt that RF has a lot of dislike, or distaste for many of the folks he played with ... there are some incredible moments with Jamie Muir, Bill Bruford, John Wetton, Greg Lake and many others ... for it all to be ditched by wayside, specially when the stuff was played in the last version of KC with the drummers and incredible musicianship. I think the day that his fingers will no longer respond to his desire, he will wake up to appreciate how much music was made and how far they were able to take it. Any other look at it, would be rather skimpy and silly, and probably not quite as honest, and ... more!
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I just saw the documentary... I don't think Fripp mentioned Greg even once. There were a few seconds of footage from 1969ish.. But yeah, Greg's book was very diplomatic. I wonder how much Keith's death impacted his writings. He did say "I wish Carl wasn't so negative" after the re-union in the 90s when Carl (joked?) said "Well, we aren't at each other's throats yet" to an interviewer. After the documentary, I'll probably check out interviews, hopefully chronologically. Here's one I saw this morning. |
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In the Court of the Crimson King: King Crimson at 50
England 2022 A lot of rock music specials and videos and films, are a waste of time, and simply an adoration of the fame of the artist. In many ways, this is one thing that this show is not about at all, and it does that by allowing Robert Fripp the freedom to explain himself, and even though one could think that he was very tough on his musicians, in the end, I am not sure that many of them did not appreciate the quality of the work, and how it was put together. The one thing that stands out in all this, is how so much of the music has stood out, and how much it has helped the most recent version (with the 3 drummers) actually stand up, as the strength of it all would not have stood out as much with just one drummer on stage, I don't think. Having 3 of them, allowed the music to be touched up and colored in ways that we can not even compare to the originals, when you know right away how much they were touched up to enhance some of the music ... in this case in the past several years, there is no enhancement necessary ... it is all right there in front of you ... and honestly, this is something that is missing in 99 out of 100 rock music concerts ... the ability to go above and beyond their own material ... in this version seen on the film, even though you never get a full piece, just bits and pieces, you get to see what it takes to get to that level, something that most bands will never understand, or consider doing. There are some neat things here, and one of the most important of them all is the one that the very advanced and great musician will take on immediately, and it is the comment about how you play ... you don't play for the count! You play with the other folks to ensure that you can stay with them to make the music fly! It is the comment I make the most about so many (supposed) "progressive" new bands, and the drummer is a high schooler that is still counting, and it makes it look like the rest of the musicians ccould not play at all, without a drummer, which is completely stupid and insane at the same time ... how much music, classical and otherwise, never had a drummer until 75 years ago or so ... classical music never needed a "drummer" ... and here we are in 2023, and folks are using a person, instead of a metronome, which could be removed. If the players can not play without it, they do not deserve to be considered "progressive". The other thing that is clear is that it was thought that Robert Fripp had a temper, and he might have had it, and even though it was something that came from his mother (a terribly sad moment), it was something that forced him to make sure that the music was even better than "possible" to make sure that the inevitable and otherwise "ignorant" comment and moment was not at all applicable or even considered. The music at that point was cleaner than what most of us think it should be ... and the players, while some didn't like it, in the end, it looks like all of them appreciated the effort put into it. There are some oddities in it. Bill Bruford does not say anything bad, and his comments are "neutral" in my hearing them, but I think that it was BB's ability to add stuff left and right all the time, even if for fun ... that got him in trouble, however, when hearing KC with the 3 drummers ... what do you get? All those little bits and pieces and they are fabulous and you will go ... wow ... that was cool! (A good example ... listen to the original Starless and you can not hear Bill's touches very well. Then play Rachel Flowers version, and she amplifies all the little touches and funsies that BB added, and all of a sudden you have a great, and far out, piece.) Unlike many rock music specials there was no "performance" of any single piece of music, and no specific details about any piece whatsoever, but listening to Jamie Muir, Adrian Belew, Mel Collins, Jakko Jakszyk, and others detail on a thing or two, really explain some of the tough things in the band, and what it came to. Jamie Muir, you can see that video on its own, is going nuts on the end of that piece (we only catch a wee bit!!!) ... and I think that Robert Fripp would have liked to work that better, but you can't ... improvised material is that, and its liveliness is always dependent on the "moment" and in that moment, Jamie Muir is exceptional ... and I don't think that Robert Fripp thought it was a problem, although being able to break it down and add it to the playing in concert would be difficult since it would change every night. In Robert Fripp's mind the ability to concentrate and play it perfectly was more important than the improvisation at that time, and even with the current lineup, I think it was more about his desire to get them to do what Robert Fripp thought was needed, but in the end, you saw it right there ... the drummers, just about did their own thing, and it was far out! The only sad thing about it all is Bill Rieflin, who suffered all the way to the end, and Robert Fripp allowed him to play in the band to his last day of every kind of cancer and problem one could imagine, but you knew that Bill believed in the music, and I think that Robert Fripp appreciated that more than anything else ... love, sometimes, is more than we know ... and right there, you know that the music was more important to Bill Rieflin than anything else ... the only thing that made him feel better, if that was possible. A very sad truth and moment, with the only thing missing being the mass in the end, to celebrate something that is very valuable to all life and the arts. I think there is more that I would like to have seen, and it looks like this film could easily be an hour longer, and maybe we will see that someday ... as some bits and pieces tend to fall away too quick ... Pete Sinfield's words seemed kinda lost. Adrain Belew a bit confused as to why it all ended so fast. Giles and MacDonald not really discussing the music or the playing, but talking about their leaving. Greg Lake being invisible, even though it easily should have been stated that he wanted more freedom to float and sing, than he was allowed and probably the very long and detailed rehearsals that I think GL might not have enjoyed, and later with ELP, there did not seem to be any problems with him floating, or Carl Palmer floating, or Keith Emerson floating, however I would almost say that GL learned a lot in KC and his listening and helping his mates do better made ELP the stand out that it was, but it may have been the rigid way to "learn" and "play" that helped develop the freedom to do what he did with ELP. Probably one of the most important of all things on rock music ... right up there with the one on George Martin talking about the artists he worked with ... something that we can not even imagine, but he "saw it" ... or a Tom Dowd "finding" something that went on to make one of the best known rock songs ever. 6 GIBLOONS Too good not to be appreciated! Directed by Toby Amies Written by Toby Amies Cinematography by Toby Amies Music, by various KC folks, including Robert Fripp, Michael Giles, Greg lake, Ian McDonald, Pete Sinfield With a lot of previous folks that were in the band: Adrian Belew, Biff Blumfumgagnge (guitar technician), Bill Bruford, Mel Collins, Michael Giles, Trey Gunn, Gavin Harrison, Jakko Jakszyk, Tony Levin, Pat Mastelotto, Ian McDonald, Jamie Muir, Bill Rieflin, Pete Sinfield, David Singleton, Jeremy Stacey
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