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Endless Dream vs Home by the Sea |
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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6820 |
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Endless Dream hands down.
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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Creeping up the blindside, sheening up the wall; moving through the dark of night...
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Squonk19 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2015 Location: Darlington, UK Status: Offline Points: 4789 |
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A rare vote for Collins-era Genesis from me. A strong late-period highlight.
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“Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.”
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miamiscot ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 23 2014 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 3630 |
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Both are awful (except the first 90 seconds of Endless Dream.)
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twosteves ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 01 2007 Location: NYC/Rhinebeck Status: Offline Points: 4095 |
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any song with a long Banks solo is ok by me---Endless nightmare isn't my thing---that whole album is meh
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 53008 |
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Home by the Sea. My pants are determined to handle all this meatloaf, scrambled eggs, trash trucks, and semi-arid mountain ranges.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29702 |
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always liked Endless Dream and Talk as a whole. It's a poppy proggy affair, very nicely produced and gave the Victory music label a nice boost until ELP eventually brought it down with ITHS.
I have virtually zero interest in Genesis studio albums post Duke. I still don't own 'Genesis', IT or WCD. They all have some good tracks but mosytly don't care and the 80's ones are made worse by having the very typical plastic production style of the time which I dislike. The Way We Walk 'The Longs' does have more acceptable live versions of their best 80's and 90's stuff. Play HBTS and Domino loud and the floor rocks! Much more fun than their anaemic studio efforts.
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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^ Indeed I mostly listen to the live versions of the 80's Genesis songs, if they exist. They sound more alive, less controled, less manufactured. Specially with the drums.
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Steve Wyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2017 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 2882 |
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I voted for "Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea" only because I've never liked that little "televangelist" bit that Trevor Rabin throws in just because he knew he could get away with it! The rest of "Endless Dream" is flawless.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19048 |
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We're prog fans so this probably doesn't mean much but the self titled Genesis album sold over 4 million copies and Talk sold maybe 200,000 (if that). Both US sales.
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Frets N Worries ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 30 2023 Location: Your Basement Status: Offline Points: 4235 |
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I enjoyed Genesis much more than I did TALK, and even as songs, Home by the Sea is better
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
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Jared ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 20489 |
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HbtS for purely nostalgic reasons and I enjoy both, although I have to admit I have neither of these pieces in my collection these days...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29702 |
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Well we know that Genesis were beginning to shift serious quantities at that time partly because of Phil Collins raised profile I imagine. It seems that Yes and ELP between them managed to push Victory Music over the edge of the cliff in 1994. ![]() |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29702 |
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QNFT
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Online Points: 37621 |
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I decided to check out some of Endless Dream a little earlier (bits and pieces scanning though the track), but it is too AOR for my tastes. Not my cup of tea. That is a good Genesis track.
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mellotronwave ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 30 2021 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 11607 |
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Both are enjoyable , voted 'Home'
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Starshiper ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 08 2024 Location: Englantic Status: Offline Points: 2534 |
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Phil Collins' awful 1980s singing is probably the only factor in my decision to vote for Endless Dream.
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