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    Posted: September 28 2023 at 09:16
Opeth - Ghost Reveries, if you haven't checkout them out yet.
Baroness - their last or Blue record are a good starting point.
Ihsahn - some great harsh vocals with cool ideas.
Animal as Leaders - great instrumental band.
Thank You Scientist - More close to Mars Volta maybe? They are sometimes prog-metal. Might be too pop though.
Soen - Kinda similar to Tool
Messhuggah - Very heavy with only harsh vocals. They last 2 or 3 albums were great for me - especially The Violent Sleep of Reason, hated the earlier ones, though haha
Dreadnought - With female vocals (also harsh ones), reminds a bit of "classic opeth", but it is more experimental and somewhat loose.
Ok Goodnight - The Fox and the Bird is great, but it is very storytelly and definitely pop in places. It's still ones of my favourites releases of 2023, though. Female vocals as well (some growling in 2 songs)

They are still somewhat Pop, but closer to Mastodon and Riverside instead of Dream Theater or Haken, for example.
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

I'm not sure if my recommendation satisfies your requirements, but a favourite metal album of mine is "Crack the Skye" by Mastodon. They are listed in PA under Tech/Extreme Prog Metal, so I guess that means they do have tracks with growling vocals. On "Crack the Skye", there is only one track with growling vocals. The vocals on the other tracks are not necessarily clean, but they are not growling. I especially love the Sabbathesque sound of a number of their tracks. The two tracks below are highlights for me:

Btw, since you're very fond of Crack the Sky and apparently also fond of The Mercury Tree's Self Similar, I could recomend you Isis' In the Absence of Truth which is Sludgy and have some but more pleasant growling vocals.


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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

^out of curiosity, what did you think of my other suggestion, Mind Over Four. The Goddess was one I listened to a lot back in the early 90s with Voivod and Thouht Industry. What I didn't like was that it was only 33 minutes long.

Well, the cover art of The Goddess put me of, so I haven't given it any chance yet. I liked some of Half Way Down, but I found it also too derivative which I don't like.
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^out of curiosity, what did you think of my other suggestion, Mind Over Four. The Goddess was one I listened to a lot back in the early 90s with Voivod and Thouht Industry. What I didn't like was that it was only 33 minutes long.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I'm so happy you've discovered THought Industry! The debut and the next album are two of my favorite albums (of any genre) of all time! Unique and unlike ANYTHING ever recorded. My only gripe is the production is crap but the music and originality is so excellent that i don't care.

Very nice with this post of yours. I've seen your 5 stars review of Songs for Insects from 2013 and wondered if you still appreciate this album so much - you certainly do! 
Personally, I find the production of it quite good (as I hear it on the 1995 reissue), also considering the often very dense character of the music which is not easy to produce well.


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Yeah, I'm just about finding Songs for Insects to be qualified adding to my exclusive collection, and here's a sample from this 
definitely remarkable album:




I'm so happy you've discovered THought Industry! The debut and the next album are two of my favorite albums (of any genre) of all time! Unique and unlike ANYTHING ever recorded. My only gripe is the production is crap but the music and originality is so excellent that i don't care.

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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

^ But that's the question: is my recommendation what the OP (you) is asking for?

Okay, I wasn't quite sure but in that case I can tell that the Progressive Metal definition I have in mind here is the one RYM use, and it doesn't include Mercury Tree.
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^ But that's the question: is my recommendation what the OP (you) is asking for?
 
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^ I think it's best to keep this thread to what the OP is asking for.
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@ David_D: Are you willing to consider music that is progressive metal - adjacent? For example, The Mercury Tree, classified as Heavy Prog in PA, has metal in the music, but in albums such as the newly released "Self Similar", the focus is on microtonal music.
 
 
 
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Songs for Insects may also show to be my way to get really into Nothingface which, I have to say, is still a bit of a challenge for me.

Anyway I think that I for the time being, with 31 albums and quite a lot of various sub-genres, have enough of Metal in my exclusive 
collection while Songs for Insects with its certainly special character is also a very nice addition to it.
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Another band/album from that time period, with a similar but more experimental vibe, is Thought Industry Songs for Insects (1992).
Now I've listened to this album quite a lot of times and have got it in my collection, I can really say thanks for recommendation of this cool Prog Metal. Thumbs Up

You're welcome!

It's definitely a favorite of mine. I thought of it based on your list of albums initially overlapped with what I like. Voivod, Tool, and Riverside I like in this general genre.

You surely hit the spot, and while Voivod, Tool and Riverside are easy to spot, it's certainly something else with Thought Industry. I might though have heard some of Songs for Insects on previous occasion, but wasn't ready for it then. It's not easy to access and requires some more special tastes - I'd say.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Another band/album from that time period, with a similar but more experimental vibe, is Thought Industry Songs for Insects (1992).


Now I've listened to this album quite a lot of times and have got it in my collection, I can really say thanks for recommendation of this cool Prog Metal. Thumbs Up


You're welcome!

It's definitely a favorite of mine. I thought of it based on your list of albums initially overlapped with what I like. Voivod, Tool, and Riverside I like in this general genre.
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Another band/album from that time period, with a similar but more experimental vibe, is Thought Industry Songs for Insects (1992).

Now I've listened to this album quite a lot of times and have got it in my collection, I can really say thanks for recommendation of this cool Prog Metal. Thumbs Up
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You might like Karnivool.  Sound Awake is a great album:
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Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

For prog-thrash in the vein of classic Voivod, I would recommend:

Coroner - No More Color, Mental Vortex
Tourniquet - Psycho Surgery
Target - Master Project Genesis

Also, if you're ok with vocals that are a bit harsher, I'd recommend "Tribe" by Sadist. Absolutely fantastic prog-death album... imagine Cynic's first album, but with even wackier keyboards Smile

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Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

Do you know a Polish band Kobong?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhQ66kicWgG_ByK3djSDQ8Q8ypFpwjeoZ

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDXMx5t0L6U6J2H8Ldxr59xLWyWrsk4bM

And Neuma?

I've heard some of Kobong but not Neuma, as far as I remember. So I'll check them out, and thanks!
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Quote Do you know a Polish band Kobong?
I can recommend it. It's very raw. Personally, Kobong's sound annoys the hell out of me but I'm pretty sure it's just a taste thing.
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Do you know a Polish band Kobong?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhQ66kicWgG_ByK3djSDQ8Q8ypFpwjeoZ

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDXMx5t0L6U6J2H8Ldxr59xLWyWrsk4bM

And Neuma?
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So nice to see both Voivod and Fates Warning mentioned!
Awaken the Guardian is an absolute classic banger. As with Voivod, I really like their "progressive rock"-trilogy, with Nothingface, Angel Rat and Outer Limits. But both Killing Technology and Dimension Hatröss is extremely cool as well. Superb bands!
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