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Psychedelic Paul
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The best and the worst lyrics all in one song....
ELP - Still You Turn Me On Every day a little sadder A little madder Someone get me a ladder
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cstack3
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Yeah, that one always struck me as pretty damn bad!! He could have used "puff adder" (One of the most widespread venomous snakes, puff adders are native to Africa and parts of the Saudi Arabian peninsula), "bladder," "fatter" (certainly applied to Greg Lake) and so forth. Those all would have been better than "ladder."
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Rush (both from the song territories with the last one from the Manhatten project):
Best: "A whole wide world an endless universe yet we keep looking through the eye glass in reverse. Don't feed the people but we feed the machines. Can't really say what international means. Worst (and from the same song): "Better people better food better beer." Also from same album: "All the brightest boys to play with the biggest toys."
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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The ELP ladder thing has some other deeper significance. I don't remember the details but if you google it it might pop up.
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Frets N Worries
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Pink Floyd:
Worst: I though I though of everything Best: just the entirety of 'Time' |
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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I often don't pay much attention to lyrics, but the good lyrics quoted for Rush do stand out. I like the lyrics from Between the Wheels:
You know how that rabbit feels Going under your speeding wheels Bright images flashing by Like windshields towards a fly Frozen in the fatal climb But the wheels of time Just pass you by Wheels can take you around Wheels can cut you down And I have a hard time with the lyrics in Dog Years: In the dog days People look to Sirius Dogs cry for the moon But those connections are mysterious It seems to me While it's true that every dog will have his day When all the bones are buried There is barely time to go outside and play Dog years, it's the season of the itch Dog years, with every scratch it reappears Dog years, for every sad son of a bitch Dog years, with his tail between his ears |
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Even Van der Graaf Generator had "Necromancer". Actually, I find the association of prog with fantasy somewhat off-putting, though I'm ok with science fiction in prog. Edited by I prophesy disaster - September 17 2023 at 19:16 |
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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cstack3
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There is quite a bit in prog-related - Queen's "Fairy Feller's Master Stroke," Uriah Heep's "Wizard" etc. However, the lyrics of Yes, King Crimson and Genesis, although fanciful, do not go down the rabbit hole of fantasy in the form of Dungeons & Dragons etc. Beats the hell out of me how that started!!
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Hugh Manatee
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Yeah, the backstory to those lyrics is better than the lyric itself, and it wasn't so bad as to prevent them naming a whole tour after them. Personally I cringe when I hear: "How did he lose Six Million Jews." As for "Lucky Man", Lake wrote those lyrics when he was 12 and it was nothing more than a filler to begin with. It was only the magnificent first take moog solo at the end that lifts it above mediocre (and if I'm not mistaken, it is probably ELPs best known/ most popular song). Yes, Lakes lyrics have always been somewhat soft around the edges, however the debut does feature Lakes best lyrics (IMHO) with both "Take a Pebble" and "Knife Edge".
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I should have been a pair of ragged claws
Scuttling across the floors of uncertain seas |
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I prophesy disaster
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I'm a little curious as to specifically why... that whole track is very anti-religious.
In Australia (at least), ELP's version of "Fanfare for the Common Man" became synonymous with sporting events for decades following the Montreal Olympics in 1976. On television, I sometimes hear parts of "Karn Evil 9" played in shows set in the '70s. |
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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Worst, Porcupine Tree Fear of a Blank Planet - "An xbox is a god to me", etc
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Criswell
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IMO, any lyrics Dave Cousins (Strawbs) writes are a cut
above most anything else out there. There are so many awful Prog Rock lyrics that I don’t know
where to start. |
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I agree completely! I also enjoy Jon Anderson's gibberish, songs like "To Be Over" have moved me greatly.
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Being a tiger means your mate when overfed
will defecate in places least expected. Jethro Tull-Tiger Tune Not sure whether to say it’s best or worst. To each his own I guess. Nothing like some warped potty humor from Jethro Tull. |
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“Somebody get me a ladder” refers to hitting rock bottom and wanting help to climb out. |
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- not a terrible lyric, its more the ''even though your flesh has crystallized'' bit I don't like personally and in general its just very heavy handed. For me most of Lake's best lyrics are on Trilogy including the excellent From The Beginning especially showed that he could write a great lyric as well as the pseudo hymn The Endless Enigma. I also enjoy the romanticism of Trilogy a lot. However as good as they tracks were on the album, ELP though struggled to get these songs across live and so I think a more theatric approach beckoned. Context is important here.
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Hugh Manatee
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Sure, I'm an Aussie to, but I wonder how many people even knew who "Fanfare..." was by, let alone listen to the whole track from beginning to end. ...and "Lucky Man" was featured on "The Simpsons". For me, those lines from (Hymn) just seem to trivialize what it's trying to address. A simplistic take on an extremely complex situation. Why not attack this god for the total 60 million people estimated to have died during that particular conflict?
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Hugh Manatee
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That ladder line refers to just how crazy the whole ELP stage experience had become. It references Emersons continued escalation in showman ship, specifically when Emerson had his keyboard rig lifted off the stage, at one point failing and leaving Emerson stranded in mid air, a situation which facilitated Emerson calling out for the aforementioned piece of climbing equipment. The song itself is Lake addressing his audience, saying that no matter the madness, it was all worth it for the crowd reaction. Edited by Hugh Manatee - September 18 2023 at 22:58 |
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Cristi
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^ I thought they could not find a better rhyme for "sadder".
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