Why aren't The Flaming Lips on prog archives? - Progressive Rock Music Forum

^ those bands are prog related and Flaming Lips is not

In fact i'd love to get rid of prog related altogether

It dilutes from the true prog experience

Talking Heads and Oingo Boingo shouldn't be here at all

Beatles, Sabbath are proto-prog

I've found nothing about Flaming Lips to warrant their inclusion

Experimental indie pop doesn't make prog

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If the Flaming Lips meet this criteria then they they should be included or at least considered. People just saying they are prog means nothing.....proof is in the chocolate pudding.

I'm not sure I have ever heard one of their songs, just wayyyyy too much other music to listen to....Aren't they some kind of pop music band??

Edited by Catcher10 - August 28 2023 at 10:55

scouser14 wrote:

Oh gosh, NO! They are anything but just a 'pop band'! They are very experimental, and for me, one of the best bands of the last 25+ years (and I am a die-hard prog fan from Genesis, Crimson, Gong, Canterbury, to Twelfth Night, Pendragon, IQ, Riverside, Lifesigns etc etc).

Seeing as you've never listened to anything from them, may I suggest, 'When We Die, When We're High', 'Mother Please Don't Be Sad' (Floydish vibe) and 'Brother Eye' from their latest 'American Head' album. Also, 'All We Have Is Now' and 'Approaching Pavonis Mons by Balloon (Utopia Planitia) from the 'Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots' album..... for starters... but then both albums are absolutely brilliant throughout :)

(and like any great music, give 'em a few listens)

If you do give them a shot, 'd be interested in your thoughts after listening to them.

cheers.

I'm currently listening to the songs posted on page 1. Yea for sure a ton of CAN influence (btw CAN fooking rulez in my book!!). But what I'm hearing is just a lot of psych music, which in itself is not progressive to me, at least not enough to be listed here as a prog band.

I'm not part of any team that makes these decisions, just my opinion. I'm not a big fan of psych music, I love Pink Floyd, but really don't care for Piper and Saucer much at all for example.

I'm not a fan of the band by any stretch, but having listened to a lot of RIO, I fail to see why not to include them. There's a lot of RIO releases which IMHO are only considered prog because of the level of experimentation. TFL certainly are experimental, they're firmly rooted in Rock with a lot of electronic elements, psychedelic and space leanings as well.

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Where exactly am I 'complaining'??? I was asking a genuine question, to which there might have been a rational answer I wasn't aware of. May I suggest you consider more measured responses to people simply asking a question?

Edited by scouser14 - August 29 2023 at 11:20

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then may I suggest you give people not familiar with the site the benefit of the doubt and don't jump to conclusions? I didn't even know there was a process for suggesting new artists. Now I do.

I will not be pushed, stamped, filed, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

scouser14 wrote:

then may I suggest you give people not familiar with the site the benefit of the doubt and don't jump to conclusions? I didn't even know there was a process for suggesting new artists. Now I do.

You joined 18 years ago and you're still not familiar with the site?

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^ Ok. Now I understand. I didn't mean to offend you, sorry.

Greetings from Poland!

"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."

Charles Bukowski

siLLy puPPy wrote:

Flaming Lips refers to some of the posts here LOL

siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ those bands are prog related and Flaming Lips is not

In fact i'd love to get rid of prog related altogether

It dilutes from the true prog experience

Talking Heads and Oingo Boingo shouldn't be here at all

Beatles, Sabbath are proto-prog

I've found nothing about Flaming Lips to warrant their inclusion

Experimental indie pop doesn't make prog

Oingo should not be here, that's for sure. However, there area few other bands who don't belong before I'd go excluding Talking Heads, though. Geek

Indeed, I've revisited their more iconic 90/00's albums like Soft Bulletin, Yoshimi, Transmissions, Clouds taste and found nothing to warrant a PA inclusion, even as Related. However, their latest American Head seems drenched in mellotron, though, as if they've just discovered it.

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