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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

4 stars 1969: Arcadium - Breathe Awhile

Of this first bunch, this one is a part of my collection too. 
I'd like to have added Andwellas Dream too, but they haven't yet made their way onto ProgArchives. 

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My Complete Prog Archives Collection on CD (updated Mk II version)

5 stars 2000: Barclay James Harvest - The Collection (compilation) 
5 stars 2001: Barclay James Harvest - Mockingbird (compilation)

5 stars 1970: Peter Bardens - The Answer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv5Xfg94T3E



2 stars 1977: Jeff Beck with the Jan Hammer Group Live - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mWSobQiTJkm8UMTOVN4MHqudmE-CjZo2E

4 stars 1970: Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1sPDo2wZAY

5 stars 1968: Blood, Sweat & Tears - Child is Father to the Man - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mlC0cJIbvgFZADsyviLwyQONKKnHkKq9I
4 stars 1968: Blood, Sweat & Tears - Blood, Sweat & Tears - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKgQJ9J2Ew4kdH5wb1xL46sFfHQ4HMIAv
3 stars 1970: Blood, Sweat & Tears - Blood, Sweat & Tears 3 - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEaT1Phk6jrKlKG7qETvJA6ndsJh8uOr0
3 stars 1971: Blood, Sweat & Tears - Blood, Sweat & Tears 4 - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kFT9OVAKlKeOZDrwhI83n93DhHHq0TKW4

4 stars 1975: Blue Oyster Cult - On Your Feet or on Your Knees - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNzEAVNPiKM
4 stars 1978: Blue Oyster Cult - Some Enchanted Evening - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kx69NJtjzERXqpqGVgUazfUIUkSyjYCUU
4 stars 1981: Blue Oyster Cult - Fire of Unknown Origin - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lii5mtMgsCePLhUmVDeW98VsSBfQbLOv8
4 stars 1983: Blue Oyster Cult - The Revolution by Night - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_tAsexv4Yojm82uxezkpMtUajIxSksdY
5 stars 1983: Blue Oyster Cult - Don't Fear the Reaper (compilation) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nkhj7DZdQGY-ZUmdRJ38P0gdcI0eye0xY



4 stars 1970: David Bowie - The Man Who Sold the World - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nFLZQSiLN1Unp7-pgo0ZxmBiSkBFY5DNw
5 stars 2005: David Bowie - The Platinum Collection - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXs8_uBd467_Xn3hEj79VLXrEJmJOQK6w
5 stars 2014: David Bowie - Nothing Has Changed (compilation) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL-bCFPMpkAtEKNfqY-qN3MhHtfelQRcs


4 stars 1973: Budgie - Never Turn Your Back on a Friend - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt8o5dtNVyk
3 stars 1974: Budgie - In for the Kill - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzUNJM2NECA
3 stars 1975: Budgie - Bandolier - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXVQuhguL5s

4 stars 1989: Kate Bush - The Sensual World - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EoPlZkJANQ



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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

4 stars 1970: Black Sabbath - Paranoid 
4 stars 1971: David Bowie - Hunky Dory 
4 stars 1973: Budgie - Never Turn Your Back on a Friend 

These do I own as well. It suprises me a bit not to find Sgt. Pepper's amongst your Beatles albums, which in return is the only one I have. Anyway, it'll be interesting to see how many altogether we both own, and I guess it'll be a larger percentage of yours than so far (4 albums.)  Smile

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You're really going to post your entire collection?
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

4 stars 1970: Black Sabbath - Paranoid 
4 stars 1971: David Bowie - Hunky Dory 
4 stars 1973: Budgie - Never Turn Your Back on a Friend 

These do I own as well. It surprises me a bit not to find Sgt. Pepper's amongst your Beatles albums, which in return is the only one I have. Anyway, it'll be interesting to see how many altogether we both own, and I guess it'll be a larger percentage of yours than so far (4 albums.)  Smile

I did have Sgt. Pepper in my CD collection at one time, but in a momentary lapse of reason, I gave it away to a charity shop, along with two Pink Floyd albums and three Tangerine Dream albums. I've been trying to buy them back again ever since. Ouch
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

You're really going to post your entire collection?

Yes, but it may take a lot longer than I'd originally planned. Embarrassed
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^Can't wait to see the volume of Allan Holdsworth solo or Pat Metheny albums in your collection.

Would I be wrong to assume zero?

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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Can't wait to see the volume of Allan Holdsworth solo or Pat Metheny albums in your collection.

Would I be wrong to assume zero?

I do at least have one album by the Pat Metheny Group, purchased recently following your recommendation. It's just a question now of whether to list him/them under "P" or "M". I always have the same problem too with the Alan Parsons Project, never knowing whether he/they should be listed under "A" or "P". Ermm
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^List under last name.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^List under last name.

Thanks! I'll re-file the Alan Parsons Project under the letter "P" Sooner or Later. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^List under last name.
Thanks! I'll re-file the Alan Parsons Project under the letter "P" Sooner or Later. Thumbs Up

Yes, as far as I've seen it, it's the standard to file under the main musicians surname, so different bands/projects can be filed the same place. I do it as well.

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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

You're really going to post your entire collection?

Paul says, it's his "Prog" collection - as far as I remember and reckon, today it's about 700-800 albums.




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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

You're really going to post your entire collection?

Paul says, it's his "Prog" collection - as far as I remember and reckon, today it's about 700-800 albums.


I haven't counted my CD prog collection lately, but 700-800 albums sounds like a pretty good estimate to me. Thumbs Up
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^ I'm currently building up the "show my collection" area of the TYM website - you're welcome to give it a try, if you're interested. I'll also add ways to export the data in various formats, so entering your collection there doesn't necessarily lock you into using TYM for everything. Check it out if you're interested. Currently the visualisation is quite basic, you can browse all the releases I've rated here: https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike/releases
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ I'm currently building up the "show my collection" area of the TYM website - you're welcome to give it a try, if you're interested. I'll also add ways to export the data in various formats, so entering your collection there doesn't necessarily lock you into using TYM for everything. Check it out if you're interested. Currently the visualisation is quite basic, you can browse all the releases I've rated here: https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike/releases

Thanks for the info and the link. Thumbs Up
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Coming up are ways to filter the releases by year, artist a-z, artist country, main genre and prog status ... as you know, there are so many ways to look at the data. Since I've mapped most of the releases and artists, I can also attempt to introduce a filter by pa genre, if enough people are interested. Exports could be offered as plain text, csv and html ...
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


I do at least have one album by the Pat Metheny Group, purchased recently following your recommendation. It's just a question now of whether to list him/them under "P" or "M". I always have the same problem too with the Alan Parsons Project, never knowing whether he/they should be listed under "A" or "P". Ermm

Alan Parsons Project is a group, not a person, so A would be appropriate.

For names I also sort by first name, since software does that. It'd annoy me if my iTunes, the music player on my phone, RYM etc. filed stuff by firrst name, and my CD shelves would be the only place to deviate from that. Maybe before digital era I would do it by last name, but first name is pretty much standard now.


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Originally posted by Stressed Cheese Stressed Cheese wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


I do at least have one album by the Pat Metheny Group, purchased recently following your recommendation. It's just a question now of whether to list him/them under "P" or "M". I always have the same problem too with the Alan Parsons Project, never knowing whether he/they should be listed under "A" or "P". Ermm

Alan Parsons Project is a group, not a person, so A would be appropriate.

For names I also sort by first name, since software does that. It'd annoy me if my iTunes, the music player on my phone, RYM etc. filed stuff by firrst name, and my CD shelves would be the only place to deviate from that. Maybe before digital era I would do it by last name, but first name is pretty much standard now.

I'm not so sure that's true about RYM. It seems to be filing under P for Alan Parsons Project, Alan Parsons, and Jaco Pastorius on this page: https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/progaardvark/57

Traditionally, record stores, from my experience, have filed under surname for individual artists as well as bands named for an individual, thus I file CDs in my own collection in such a manner. Having said that, I work with metadata in a library and Alan Parsons Project would be filed under A, but Alan Parsons by himself is filed under P. Library filing rules are remarkably complex. See this as an example at the Library of Congress: https://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/G100.pdf

I'm not sure what software you are referring to that sorts by first name. Without knowing this, I can only guess that the data has been entered as first name followed by last name. Would it not sort it by surname if you entered it surname, first name? If that's the case, than it's not necessarily a software issue, but a data entry issue. I'm not saying you cannot do that. It is your database and you are welcome to enter it any way you want to. But in shared databases, some sort of standard filing rules should be in place or the database becomes an inconsistent mess. Another issue to consider is initial articles. File The Flower Kings under T or F?



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^ It seems opinion is still divided as to where to place the Alan Parsons Project alphabetically, but currently, they reside next to Pink Floyd on my prog CD rack. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I haven't counted my CD prog collection lately, but 700-800 albums sounds like a pretty good estimate to me. Thumbs Up

However one define Progressive Music, it's much larger than mine.
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