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Genesis.....will there be anything close to what they did, maybe in 100 years. 

3 From Genesis to Revelation (1969)
3.5 Trespass (1970)
4.5 Nursery Cryme (1971)
5 Foxtrot (1972)
4 Genesis Live (1973)
5 Selling England by the Pound (1973)
4.5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (1974)
5 A Trick of the Tail (1976)
4 Wind & Wuthering (1976)
5 Seconds Out (1977)
3.5 And Then There Were Three (1978)
4 Duke (1980)
3 Abacab (1981)
4 Three Sides Live (1982)
3.5 Genesis (1983)
3 Invisible Touch (1986)
3 We Can't Dance (1991)
2.5 The Way We Walk (1992)
3 Calling All Stations (1997)
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

From Genesis to Revelation - 3
Trespass - 4
Nursery Cryme - 4
Foxtrot - 4
Live - 4
Selling England by the Pound - 4.5
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 4
A Trick of the Tail - 5
Wind & Wuthering - 4
Spot the Pigeon - 2
Seconds Out - 5
And then there were Three - 3
Duke - 3
Abacab - 1
Three Sides Live - 1.5
Genesis (Shapes) - 2.5
Invisible Touch - 0.5
We Can't Dance - 1
The Shorts - 1
The Longs - 2
Calling all Stations - 2
Congratulations on including "Spot the Pigeon". That album often gets overlooked, especially in Genesis polls. Smile
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Trespass - 4
Nursery Crymes - 4
Foxtrot - 4.5
SEBTP - 4
Lamb - 3.5

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^^ Your 1-star rating for Calling All Stations makes my 3-star rating look very generous by comparison. Smile
I donīt think it as Genesis album at all. Hard to think any album Genesis album where is not Gabriel or Collins singing (I havenīt heard anybody has voice like they have). It could have been ok album under name Banks-Rutherford-Wilson. But really not great musically even that name.
Calling All Stations doesn't sound anything like a Genesis album to me either, but judged on its own merits, it's not a bad album, in my opinion. Smile
Well, not the worst album of the world, but I didnīt find from it anything I wanted to listen it again. Maybe I could have rated it 2 as Banks-Rutherford-Wilson -album, but as Genesis album it is 1. I think we all have some expectations from our favorite artists albums and if they donīt fulfill at all...To me itīs just hard to listen any Genesis album thinking itīs not Genesis album.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2020 at 13:51
I think you're right. I was probably being generous in giving Calling All Stations a 3-star rating, especially considering I can't recall one single song off the album. Smile
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

From Genesis to Revelation - 1
Trespass - 5
Nursery Cryme - 4
Foxtrot - 5
Selling England by the Pound - 5
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 3
A Trick of the Tail - 5
Wind & Wuthering - 5
And then there were Three - 2
Duke - 5

Abacab - 3
Genesis - 4
Invisible Touch - 1
We Can't Dance - 3
Calling all Stations - 2

The 'neo prog years' but why only 2 for ATTWT?
Because Phil Collins, the guy responsible for everything bad about Genesis and a whole lot of other things, didn't turn up.

that doesn't make sense. If he 'didn't turn up' wouldn't that be a good thing?
Since I'm only one of the few here who likes him as a singer/composer, not turning up, apart from sending his drum and voice parts from Canada, is the reason I only awarded ATTWT 2 stars.

There are a number of tracks with great drumming and the vocals are strong. He could have phoned his performance in from Jupiter for all I care Wink

It's W&W where Collins drumming fall short a bit short for me. 

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

IN THE BEGINNING there were five members of Charterhouse School who ONE DAY decided to form a band. That band was GENESIS. They were LOOKING FOR SOMEONE to promote and produce their first album when a WINDOW of opportunity came along in the shape of Jonathan King, a DUKE of record producers working BEHIND THE LINES at the time. The album "FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION" entered a LAND OF CONFUSION and MISUNDERSTANDING though when many record stores placed the album in their religious music sections due to the religious-sounding title. The album and first single "SILENT SUN" both flopped, and barely caused any RIPPLES in the music press either, despite Jonathan King CALLING ALL STATIONS to try and promote the album and single on the radio. GENESIS' second single "A WINTER'S TALE" was also met with about as much indifference as A FLY ON A WINDSHIELD by radio stations and barely NO REPLY AT ALL from the music press. Their record company Decca became ENTANGLED in a dispute when it was discovered there was another band in America called GENESIS, but by A TRICK OF THE TAIL, the band managed to keep their name ANYWAY by changing their name to "Revelation" in the United States.

The music business has always been as fickle as a HARLEQUIN, where THE DIVIDING LINE between success and failure depends on a combination of good luck and hard work. Every new band is sailing through UNCERTAIN WEATHER where they can easily be dragged down by the UNDERTOW and SHIPWRECKED by having THE KNIFE stuck into them by their record company or by the music press. THAT'S ALL it takes to finish a band's career. There's NEVER A TIME when it's been easy to make it in the tough music business, but LIKE IT OR NOT, that's just the WAY OF THE WORLD. No astrological WATCHER OF THE SKIES can predict who's going to make it in today's cynical music industry, where the chances of success are about as hard as climbing a WHITE MOUNTAIN of snow before the FADING LIGHTS of DUSK close in.

AFTER THE ORDEAL of seeing the commercial failure of their first album, GENESIS were IN LIMBO and left out IN THE WILDERNESS during a short period of STAGNATION when the band members returned to their studies at Charterhouse. They weren't DOWN AND OUT or TAKING IT ALL TOO HARD though, because making great music was far more than JUST A JOB TO DO for the five talented band members. Contrary to being IN HIDING, GENESIS were just COUNTING OUT TIME in THE WAITING ROOM of THE CINEMA SHOW of life before returning to the recording studio. The band members were confident of THE MUSICAL BOX of talent they had between them and their HORIZONS were positively bright with the general feeling that IT'S GONNA GET BETTER soon. GENESIS were working to a TIME TABLE and they didn't plan on LIVING FOREVER on borrowed time, or waiting around each day until SUPPER'S READY. They were IN TOO DEEP to consider THROWING IT ALL AWAY at this late stage. The band were more than ready to TURN IT ON AGAIN with an INVISIBLE TOUCH of magic with the release of their next album, "TRESPASS". It would be several albums later though before GENESIS were basking in the AFTERGLOW of a successful album release, followed by the DOMINO effect of success breeding further success in the proverbial AISLE OF PLENTY.

All song titles in HIGHLIGHTS by Genesis
 
 
 
How many PA stars would you assign to each Genesis album listed below? 
 
These are my album ratings in chronological order....
 
4 starsFrom Genesis to Revelation (1969)
 
5 starsTrespass (1970)
 
5 starsNursery Cryme (1971)
 
5 starsFoxtrot (1972)
 
5 starsGenesis Live (1973)
 
5 starsSelling England by the Pound (1973)
 
5 starsThe Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (1974)
 
5 starsA Trick of the Tail (1976)
 
5 starsWind & Wuthering (1976)
 
5 starsSeconds Out (1977)
 
4 starsAnd Then There Were Three (1978)
 
3 starsDuke (1980)
 
3 starsAbacab (1981)
 
4 starsThree Sides Live (1982)
 
3 starsGenesis (1983)
 
3 starsInvisible Touch (1986)
 
3 starsWe Can't Dance (1991)
  
3 starsThe Way We Walk (1992)
 
3 starsCalling All Stations (1997)
 
You should do one on Rush.
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

 
 
You should do one on Rush.
I think all of the Rush album threads have already been done, although not by me because I'm not a big fan of Rush. Maybe you'd like to do a Rush poll, although there's no rush. Smile
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Only ranking what I own or have heard:

Trespass - 4
Nursery Cryme - 5
Foxtrot - 5
Selling England by the Pound - 5
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 5
A Trick of the Tail - 4
Wind & Wuthering - 5
Seconds Out - 3
And then there were Three - 3
Duke - 3
Abacab - 3
Genesis - 2
Invisible Touch - 2
We Can't Dance - 1
Calling all Stations - 1 
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^ I think I may have overrated Calling All Stations by giving it three stars. There isn't one memorable song on the album. Thumbs Down
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It's not that bad... but then I am a massive Genesis fan...
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Here are my Genesis studio album ratings:

From Genesis to Revelation - 2
Trespass - 4
Nursery Cryme - 5
Foxtrot - 5
Selling England By the Pound - 5
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway - 4
A Trick of the Tail - 4
Wind & Wuthering - 4
...And Then There Were Three... - 4
Duke - 4
Abacab - 2
Genesis - 3
Invisible Touch - 2
We Can't Dance - 2
Calling All Stations - 1
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^ Only two stars for Genesis' debut?  From Genesis to Revelation is at least a four star album for me and at one time it was my favourite Genesis album. Embarrassed

Calling All Stations has gone up a lot in my estimation too, ever since I bought the album (for Ģ1). I much prefer Calling All Stations over any of Genesis 1980's albums, including Duke. Smile
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Most favourite today - Nursery Cryme

A bit less favourite - SEbtP, Foxtrot, Trespass

Quite okay - The Lamb

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Revelation : 2
Trespass : 5
Nursery cryme : 5
Foxtrot : 5
Live : 4
Selling England : 5
I know what I like/Twilight Alehouse (7 inches) : 5 ( what a b-side folks !)
The Lamb : 4.5
Trick : 5
W and W : 4.5
Spot the Pigeon EP : average of 2 [ 5 (for Inside and out only, what a song !), one for each other songs)
Duke : 3
ATTW3 : 2.5
Three Sides live : 3 for the UK version ( it is a 4 live sides DLP :-)) , 2,5 for the European one
and the rest .... is just history


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Only two stars for Genesis' debut?  From Genesis to Revelation is at least a four star album for me and at one time it was my favourite Genesis album. Embarrassed

Calling All Stations has gone up a lot in my estimation too, ever since I bought the album (for Ģ1). I much prefer Calling All Stations over any of Genesis 1980's albums, including Duke. Smile


I understand why both of those albums are highly regarded among certain fans, but for me, it's not top-shelf Genesis. I do really like "In the Wilderness," but that's about it. In terms of Calling All Stations, the only songs I can tolerate are the proggy ones: "The Dividing Line" and "One Man's Fool." Maybe I will grow to like both of those albums as time progresses.
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^ Shipwrecked is my favourite track from Calling All Stations, where the song title is maybe an ironic reference to Genesis' fortunes at the time. Confused

They should have released Calling All Stations as a Mike & the Mechanics album, bearing in mind it's a Genesis album in name only. Tongue



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Originally posted by Magog2112 Magog2112 wrote:

In terms of Calling All Stations, the only songs I can tolerate are the proggy ones: "The Dividing Line" and "One Man's Fool." Maybe I will grow to like both of those albums as time progresses.

There Must Be Some Other Way is the best song on the album IMO. Has a nice keyboard solo as well. Big smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Magog2112 Magog2112 wrote:

In terms of Calling All Stations, the only songs I can tolerate are the proggy ones: "The Dividing Line" and "One Man's Fool." Maybe I will grow to like both of those albums as time progresses.

There Must Be Some Other Way is the best song on the album IMO. Has a nice keyboard solo as well. Big smile


That song contains an excellent vocal performance from Ray Wilson. One of his best, in my opinion.
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Originally posted by Magog2112 Magog2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Magog2112 Magog2112 wrote:

In terms of Calling All Stations, the only songs I can tolerate are the proggy ones: "The Dividing Line" and "One Man's Fool." Maybe I will grow to like both of those albums as time progresses.

There Must Be Some Other Way is the best song on the album IMO. Has a nice keyboard solo as well. Big smile


That song contains an excellent vocal performance from Ray Wilson. One of his best, in my opinion.

Definitely, I always liked him, in Stiltskin and solo. Thumbs Up
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