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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Agreed but I'm personally not changing my definition that includes the unholy trinity Purp/Zep/Sab Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - July 15 2023 at 06:51 |
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1 album per band, in no particular order (other than alphabetical)...
Arcturus - Sham Mirrors Black Sabbath - Heaven & Hell Circus Maximus - Isolate Dream Theater - I&W or Awake Epica - Design Your Universe Kamelot - Black Halo Symphony X - V Therion - Theli or Vovin Threshold - March Of Progress Vanden Plas - Christ.0 |
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The first 7 Maiden albums and then Motorhead (some compilation), Metallica (The Black Album) and Def Leppard (High n Dry) would get me to a 10 then I'm struggling to care tbh.
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Van Halen - Van Halen
Black Sabbath - Sabotage Rainbow - Rainbow Rising I can't think of any more!
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David_D
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I'd say it depends on whether we're using a historical or retrospective definition, and when we want to use which one. In this case, when talking all-time, I find it best to use a retrospective one, and thus not to include Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin. |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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David_D
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But if we're talking about a Metal definition which doesn't include Black Sabbath, it may be difficult for me to understand it.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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MikeEnRegalia
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First of all for any genre discussion to make any sense at all, we would have to do it at least on the release level, since many of the iconic rock/metal bands changed their style over the years. I think the key to understanding this is the realization that "Heavy Metal" is a subgenre of "Rock", and out of "Heavy Metal" eventually the NWOBHM arose. IMHO both Heavy Metal and NWOBHM are still rooted in Rock. Then in the 80s bands continued along that path and, through Thrash Metal, eventually arrived at a musical pattern that was radically different from the Rock roots. That is I think when "Metal", as something really distinct from "Rock", arose. Using this definition, it is obvious that Black Sabbath were "Heavy Metal" on their early records. From the perspective of the 1980s "Metal" bands this 70s music is a form of "Proto Metal" - hierarchically, it is the parent genre of NWOBHM and all of the metal that ensued. Musically, it's (still) much closer to Rock than any 1980+ "Metal" band. |
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Edited by siLLy puPPy - July 15 2023 at 15:23 |
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Reworked from David's thread.
Ark - Burn the Sun Dio - Holy Diver Dream Theater - Images & Words Freak Kitchen - Cooking with Pagans Haken - Visions Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind Megadeth - Rust in Peace ni - Les Insurges De Romilly Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane Panzerballett - Planet Z Riverside - Anno Domini High Definition Virgil Donati - Ruination King Crimson - Red Robin Trower - Bridge of Sighs |
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Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin are the very definition of Hard Rock to me. If Purple and Led Zep are metal, then every hard rock band is metal. And at that point, Hard Rock = Metal, and that doesn't make sense to me.
For Black Sabbath, I'd say Paranoid and Master of Reality are probably metal, the rest of their 70's output is more accurately classified as hard rock in my opinion.
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This makes good sense to me without the whole Rock question. |
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I know it's been discussed to death here, but what Black Sabbath played in 1970 was a genre known as "Heavy Blues," that is blues rock that falls into the realm of Heavy Rock. Just like there's Heavy Metal and Heavy Psych, Heavy Blues (early Sabbath) derived out of the heavier psych/blues rock scene of the late 60s. Heavy Rock, imo, is an umbrella term that categorizes these heavier psych/blues rock derivatives. Heavy Blues, Heavy Psych, Traditional Heavy Metal, Hard Rock, Acid Rock, Traditional Doom Metal, Speed Metal, and later on Stoner Rock and Stoner Doom are what would make up the distinct but related Heavy Rock styles. Traditional Heavy Metal would evolve throughout the early to mid 1980s, with the help of Punk Rock/Hardcore Punk, to distance itself from Rock via The NWoBHM, Speed Metal, and Thrash Metal, culminating in the development of the "modern metal" styles in the early 90s, with the help of Alternative Rock and more Hardcore Punk, such as Groove Metal and Black Metal, respectively, which would see the "Metal" umbrella as a distinct genre from Rock. Therefore, the majority of early metal releases in the 70s and 80s should be considered a form of Rock, as well. However, I would not consider Black Sabbath's eponymous debut to be a metal album, aside from the eponymous first track which is solid Traditional Doom Metal territory.
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How about just one (original mix of course) -- |
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This thread is interesting to me for the recognition that the term "Heavy Metal" existed in the 1970s. While my ears didn't hear a difference in the "Hard Rock" that my brother was listening to (Deep Purple, Mountain, Humble Pie, Alvin Lee, Ronnie Montrose, Jeff Beck, Uriah Heep, Rainbow, Aerosmith) and the "Heavy Metal" that started coming out of Iron Butterfly, Black Sabbath, Blue Öyster Cult, Led Zeppelin, Nazareth, Kiss, Judas Priest, and AC/DC, I definitely felt a shift in the music with bands like Iron Maiden, Twisted Sister, Slayer, Dio, Van Halen, Ozzie, Mötley Crüe, Queensryche, Megadeth, and Metallica. These last bands constituted a "new" more abrasive and aggressive, less blues-founded music than the previous bands (though some of the older bands did adopt and adapt). Thus, a list of all-time favorite metal albums, for me, really couldn't/wouldn't go back much before 1980 (or at least AC/DC's Highway to Hell).
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Imo, there weren't many "true" heavy metal bands in the 70s. It wasn't until at least the NWOBH that it became a fully formed scene or genre and the 80s is when it started to become mainstream.
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Motorhead & Judas Priest
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Ian
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I can say at least that I won't consider Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Uriah Heep and Budgie as Proto-Metal, as I otherwise can't see how to draw the line between Metal and Hard Rock - even Never Turn Your Back on a Friend is very close to. Edited by David_D - July 16 2023 at 05:48 |
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Without having though that much about it, I suppose think of Black Sabbath at their heaviest as Heavy Metal - but Heavy Rock covers their music better. When only the short term Metal is used, to me that means something else. Someting else that in a nutshell starts forty years ago, primarely with Kill 'Em All.
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What a great list! Edited by Cristi - July 16 2023 at 05:45 |
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Metal? Interesting
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