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Harold B 
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terramystic
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Freddie Mercury
Daniel Gildenlöw André Matos Annie Haslam Joanne Hogg (Iona) I also like: Ian Gillan, Michael Sadler, Geddy Lee, Mike Baker, Fish, Steve Walsh, Vincent Cavanagh... |
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My 5 favourite male vocalists (probably) Ian Gillan Robert Plant Freddie Mercury Greg Lake Peter Gabriel Honourable mention: Roger Daltrey, Jon Anderson
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moshkito
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Hi, I disagree, as a "director" of theater and film. I wouldn't want someone just going through the motions, simply because they can hit the "right note". As for rock music ... it is slightly different. I don't see Mick being in tune 100 times a night, but his vocalization eats it all up quickly ... and it makes no difference which note the guys are on. His singing is less about the notes and the chords than it is about his expression, which adds to the whole thing. One of the best exercises, if you have a chance, is to listen to the TOSCA aria for tenors by various folks ... start with Beniamino Gigli and take it all the way to Pavarotti, and beyond ... and before long you will get a very different feeling from each of them, but you will have tears on Gigli's, and ear pain on Pavarotti's. In the end, it's really not what I see as a director. I rarely told any of the actors to do something except maybe adjust the stage positioning ... since I was more interested in their own developing exploration towards the role ... and it worked. It's not even about what I liked, or what he/she liked at all ... it was about making it all smooth, comfortable and very clean, so no one in the audience can doubt a single letter. And, in some ways, this is what is missing in a lot of rock music, specially when some folks go around making you believe that what they sing about is very important to add to their idea of themselves. In most cases it is badly delivered, because there is little, if any, external direction to help identify details that help the expression, instead of ignoring them, like so many rock folks do, because ... "it's the lyrics" ... and they are trying to convince you that the lyrics are important.
Donald Fagen, like many folks in rock music adapted to what he could do, and did it magnificently well. I'm not sure there is a difference between "phrasing" and "acting out". It makes it seem like "phrasing" is slightly out of touch with the whole idea/concept of the piece ... and one sentence, is different than the rest. Jim Morrison is not about the "phrasing", per se ... it is about the LIVING PICTURE of his image or poem. AND, that is not just phrasing, as it takes more, and has to continue on to the next phrase and line. "Phrasing" itself, might be valuable if you are reading a poem to an audience, and you want to accent ... "women come and go (pause) thinking of Michelangelo" ... and it makes more sense, but you should not do that at the expanse of the rest of the poem or Prufrock will come up out of his grave to get you! His Zen, will come alive in your cereal. (ehehehehe!)
Different languages is another story, and there are times when it makes sense, and is the reason why I prefer them all singing in their own language, so there is less worry about what came about differently. I have had that issue for years, since going from Portugal to Brazil (same language but totally different everything!) and then to America at 15 without knowing a single word of English. It took me the better part of 10 years to start getting comfortable, and still my old roomie used to make fun of the fact I had no idea what he was saying or joking about ... it is very difficult, and something that is very tough all around, regardless of the circumstances. Do I like Francesco singing it in Italian better than the English ... YOU BET I DO! Just like you would hate it if Jim M had to try singing something in French or Italian ... you and I would probably croak laughing at how different things sound and feel. ... NOTE: Slight film joke ... "L'Aventura, Antonioni's film, in Italy the title also means in various parts of the country "the fling" (which we would associate with something else as well) ... where as within a literal translation, it means something else totally, and in fact the title would not exactly match the story of the film at all ... but in that particular section of Italy, it would. There is a lot of this in discussion on one of Pasolini's books ... Heretic Empiricism, which unfortunately is a prohibitive read for many of us ... it is insane and the discussion so detailed and studied as for you to go ... how much further can this go?
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Gentle and Giant
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Posted: July 13 2023 at 08:50 |
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1. Peter Hammill (Van der Graaf Generator)
2. Robert Smith (The Cure) 3. Rob Halford (Judas Priest) 4. Kerry Minnear (Gentle Giant) 5. Karen Carpenter (The Carpenters)
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Oh, for the wings of any bird, other than a battery hen
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richardh
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Posted: July 13 2023 at 09:09 |
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^ yep Karen Carpenter bless her and a decent drummer to boot!
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progaardvark
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Posted: July 13 2023 at 14:54 |
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Dagmar Krause David Bowie Elaine Difalco Christina Booth Bubbling under: Peter Jones Phil Collins Nicklas Barker Tarja Turunen Lynnette Shelley
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Hector Enrique
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Freddie Mercury Peter Gabriel Jon Anderson Ian Gillan Steve Winwood --- Peter Hammill Greg Lake Mariusz Duda David Gilmour Francesco Di Giacomo
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Big Sky
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Posted: November 07 2023 at 20:38 |
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No particular order:
Jon Anderson Steve Winwood Karen Carpenter (One Take Karen) Greg Lake Ann Wilson Some Honorable Mentions: John Wetton Pat Benatar Freddie Mercury Phil Collins Annie Haslam Robert Plant Peter Gabriel |
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Van Jackson
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Michael Jackson
Phil Collins Russel Allan Peter Gabriel The guy from Masterplan
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Octopus II
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Posted: November 11 2023 at 02:10 |
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Jon Anderson Greg Lake Annie Haslam Kerry Minnear Karen Carpenter
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Psychedelic Paul
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I would've picked Karen Carpenter too, but seeing as we're in the Prog Forum, I'll go with these six outstanding vocalists (in alphabetical order).
 Jon Anderson Heather Findlay Annie Haslam Greg Lake Jane Relf John Wetton
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Big Sky
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Paul, I thought about not including Karen Carpenter ( as well as others on my list) because she is not Prog. But, seeing how others had listed vocalists outside the Prog world, I was not going to leave off Carpenter. Phenomenal singer. Did Superstar in one take. The engineer on the session said it was only supposed to be a guide vocal. Not a easy song to sing. Boom, no Karen, that will do. Common thing in the studio with her. The great session drummer Hal Blaine said Carpenter was a very good drummer too. However, most of the studio sessions did not have Carpenter drumming. Blaine stated that because most of her drumming came live onstage that Carpenter did not quite have the delicate touch needed for the songs in the studio. She could have developed those skills, but it was decided just to go with a session drummer. Karen and her brother Richard had a lot of respect for Blaine so were quite content to let him handle the sessions. Oh and I neglected to list Roger Daltrey on my honorable mentions above. |
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progbethyname
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Roger Daltry is such a nice choice.
Boy. Listen to the way he sings on this track ! It is magic. https://youtu.be/GLQ6rpL_QLo?si=mHp0ZVKK8Gt4vASG |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: November 11 2023 at 13:07 |
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I've just backtracked to Page 7 of this thread and this was my original choice:- Top 5 male vocalists:-
Jon Anderson Ronnie James Dio David Gilmour Greg Lake John Wetton Top 5 female vocalists:- Christina Booth Heather Findlay Chrissie Hammond Annie Haslam Jane Relf |
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Big Sky
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Daltrey is great. His best moment for me though is Love Reign Over Me. Great song off a great album. |
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MortSahlFan
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A great example of how he could sing tenderly and then "LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE!" (ala "Behind Blue Eyes")
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https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition
https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
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