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Poll Question: Choose three of your favourite tracks/songs used in cinema.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2023 at 17:57
Unfortunately I couldn't come up with another one, so it's got to be Girls against Boys: Kill the Sexplayer.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2023 at 18:09
I'll go with these two (I like the contrast):

Nancy Sinatra - "Bang Bang" (written by Sonny Bono) from Nancy Sinatra's 1966 album How Does That Grab You?, which was used in Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill.



And Bauhaus - "Bela Lugosi's Dead" (off 1979's Bela Lugosi's Dead / Boys), for which a re-recorded version was used for Tony Scott's very stylish vampire movie with Catherine Deneuve, David Bowie and Susan Sarandon, The Hunger.



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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Hi all,
I'd suggest we get to our nominations: propose one or two of your suggestions for the poll. Once all nominations done, I'll put up the poll and let you vote for three of your preferred ones.

My nominations are:
- Eric Serra - Little Light of Love (from the album RXRA and the film Le cinquième élément/The Fifth Element)
- Aimee Mann - Deathly (from the album Bachelor N° 2 and the film Magnolia


Radiohead - as I've already said, it's my favourite Radiohead song, and so I've said it all (I'll add: I'm well aware that it's also a very emphatic song that uses all the tricks of the trade to achieve maximum emotional impact)

Eric Serra: raspy vocals in the tradition of Springsteen and Bryan Adams (I know these comparisons will make your hair stand on end), emotive music that works on the vaguely oriental rhythm to make a good impact (a country, hand-crafted Radiohead?)

Yann Tiersen: oh, we're on the sentimental side here, a nice French brilliant comedy with a nice love story?

Aimee Mann: beautiful melodic music with an orchestral climax.

So, yes, I agre with your choices.
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I will nominate Bob Dylan - Hurricane.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2023 at 10:22
^ George, you can nominate a second one, if you wish (no obligation, though).

What we have so far:
Christian: Girls Against Boys - Kill the Sexplayer (used in the fillm Clerks).
Mila: The Sorcerer’s Apprentice by the French composer Paul Dukas (used in the film Fantasia) and The Veils: Nux Vomica (used in the film Il Divo).
Scott: Extreme - Play With Me (used in the film Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure)
Jean: Piano Concerto in A Minor" by Robert Schumann (used in the film Song of Love).
Greg: Nancy Sinatra - Bang Bang (used in the film Kill Bill) and Bauhaus - Bela Lugosi's Dead (used in the film The Hunger).
George: Bob Dylan - Hurricane (used in the film Dazed and Confused).
Kees: Eric Serra - Little Light of Love (from the film Le cinquième élément/The Fifth Element) and Aimee Mann - Deathly (from tthe film Magnolia).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2023 at 10:28
^ I can make a playlist if you like of the nominees. I'm eager to listen through the nominations in a playlist form.

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Had a first listen to the suggestion put up so far and I quite like all of it. From the rocking tracks, of course Van Halen - wonderful band, but also Girls Against Boys (didn't know them - great bass riff!) and Extreme (great fun; don't know if I heard this song before, but I'm sure I haven't seen the film). The Veils deliver a great energetic track too, nice build-up (and a great film indeed).
I've always found Nancy Sinatra's version of Bang Bang very very moving, with that bare melancholic watery guitar...
I don't tend to get back much to the Disney animation films, but they generally have a good and efficient use of music. Didn't remember this Dukas piece, but hearing it in full, with it's narrative quality, it is no surprise it is used in cinema.
The Nanni Moretti selection is quite diverse, from the reference piece that is Jarret's Köln concert (but I never really related that much to it, somehow...), the - for me too - syrupy pop song by to the classy mambo by Yma Sumac, but from this selection I probably prefer Brian Eno's subdued By This River.

Keep them coming, if you wish. Anyway, I will be off on a trip until Thursday and probably not much online. We'll see what's been up at the end of next week to get eventually to the nominations. I'll have one or two more suggestions myself...


I had missed this before, thanks. While I wish I were better at writing such things, so I tend not to, these are the kinds of post that I particularly appreciate reading. I agree about Bang Bang, and I find this fragility about it. I know my choices might be seen as on the too known side -- I had a lot in mind, but mine were the two worked for me best right now.

As for your Yann Tiersen choice, I love that. He is such a treasure.   Off-topic and not the highest audio quality, but I have enjoyed watching this very much. Yann Tiersen - Live 2009 (Post Rock -Full Set- Live Performance I'd like to have an album of that (of professional studio sound quality).

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Mila: The Sorcerer’s Apprentice by the French composer Paul Dukas (used in the film Fantasia) and The 

I've a considerable collection of soundtracks and I often go to the cinema but I found it rather difficult to come up with something that fits folks here. So yep, I'll stick with those two. :P




Edited by Mila-13 - June 12 2023 at 10:48
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Though also well known, my second will be Van Halen - Everybody Wants Some!! from Better Off Dead.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2023 at 10:58
^ Glad I asked... Smile

@Mila: Strange as it may seem, for someone working in the film world, I'm not that much fan of soundtracks isolated from the film (I may have just about 20 soundtracks myself) - they rarely have the same impact for me as stand-alone works as within the film. There are of course - many - exceptions, though.

@Greg: Thanks, and yes, it would be nice if you could make a playlist; we're only waiting for Lorenzo's nominations now.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2023 at 11:04
^ Will start on that now, not that it will take long, and add Lorenzo's when I can.

Here is the playlist, Lorenzo's still to add.



https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4L2fjTTZ6xeAvIjKGywcl74

Two notes:

1. Scott: Extreme - Play With Me (used in the film Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure). I used the video that Scott posted; however, I wondered if it would be better to present the music as in albums forum rather than an excerpt from the film. Up to you guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDWjWfLU2kQ

2. Jean: Piano Concerto in A Minor" by Robert Schumann (used in the film Song of Love). Jean did not post a video, and Kees posted Hepburn playing music from it. This I had thought should be about the music taken from an album release (there are of course many for that famous work). I used that video, the piano concerto is too long for this in full, but I had wondered if I should use another. I could use this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUkj6GQMgR8

I guess you set this series up with rather more flexibility than I would have. If you want any changes to the videos, please let me know. I have stuck with the provided videos (with Lorenzo's first, Keith Jarrett, it again is from the film and the title for it is the film title, but then it seem the film titles will be in the poll)

EDIT: And adding both of Lorenzo's to the playlist. Unlike what some animals would say in Animal Farm in a different context, two is good.

Edited by Logan - June 12 2023 at 12:02
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2023 at 11:50
Can I choose two songs?

If two, 

1) Keith Jarrett

2) Brian Eno.

If one, 

Keith Jarrett


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^ Thumbs Up  Jarrett and Eno it is!

Thanks to all for participating. The poll is up and open for voting.
I added the playlist to the opening post (Thanks Greg!). Regarding choice of videos, I'll leave it to those who suggested the pieces (I'm fine with it as it is - yes, I'm flexible, sometimes...).

Enjoy, and up to the next one!?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2023 at 13:08
^ I'd be fine too, 'twas me just musing. And although the poll so recently started, I have listened to all, various suggestions multiple times, and I am comfortable voting.

The stand-out for me is The Veils - Nux Vomica (Il Divo). I keep on wanting to go back to it. Really great per my tastes.

My second choice is Brian Eno - By This River. I really like this too and is a stand-out song.

For my third, I'm not as sure: Kee's Bowie one would have been my choice, closely followed by Yann Tiersen. As it happens, I'm still going with another of his choices even if it doesn't appeal as much, Aimee Mann's Deathly. By the way, Magnolia was so lauded at the time, but while I enjoyed it, it did not live up to the hype for me. I saw it in the cinema as I watched a lot of film in the cinema back then. Maybe I should watch it again at some time -- also I could tell my wife wasn't that into it, which always puts me off. I liked it more than her.

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

@Mila: Strange as it may seem, for someone working in the film world, I'm not that much fan of soundtracks isolated from the film (I may have just about 20 soundtracks myself) - they rarely have the same impact for me as stand-alone works as within the film. There are of course - many - exceptions, though.
Film music is a huge treasure trove where I've discovered many gems. I think that for a start it makes sense to focus on a certain type of film music, an era or culture, etc. Sometime ago I've been looking into music for sci-fi films e.g. The film score by Bebe and Louis Barron for "Forbidden Planet" (1956) is the first entirely electronic film score, and there are countless other examples.

I always thought that you were active in the music business. Interesting to learn that you actually work in the film world. Your poll theme now makes perfectly sense to me. And yes, it is also the season of film festivals. :)


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Hi,

Keith Jarrett's music from the KOLN album was also used in Nicolas Roeg's Bad Timing: A Sensual Obsession. Some might think it off some, but even The Who's song is used beautifully, and using music in films is one thing that Nicolas Roeg was excellent at and it went as far back as "PERFORMANCE" when so much music meant so much to the story and the film itself, even if some ideas might have come from Don Cammell, although that is hard to fathom, considering how Nicolas used so much music in his films.

It's sad (for me) that so many things used here were just ... not quite/exactly about the film at all! And one that is exactly what the film is about (Purple Rain) is ignored ... 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2023 at 05:22
The first one I thought of was "Trouble" by Cat Stevens from Harold and Maude (1971), and before that it was on his album Mona Bone Jakon (1970) -- that said, that was used in an Interactive soundtrack music poll before and in a way it was too integral to the film (and Cat Stevens was too integral to the soundtrack) for the way I approached this. That song was integrated so beautifully in the film and various Cat Stevens songs were used to great affect. I would liken it to The Graduate with Simon and Garfunkel music -- those films are great showcases for Cat Stevens and S&G music.

For the way I approached and preferred to interpret this "Music Goes to the Movies (terrific title), I thought about individual songs that not only were not written for the movies originally but were not as central to the film as something like Purple Rain, or Tommy, The Wall, Quadrophenia (and nor would be the artists/bands as integral in the way to approach this that made the most sense to me -- the original post is quite flexible in terms of the expectations). To me that is a very different exercise. Those films exist because of the music, and I would sooner call that "Movies Go to the Music" than "Music Goes to the Movies".

Anyway, we are already past the nomination (and related discussion) stage and into the voting stage, and it's a bit late for regrets or sadness unless the not having nominated something yourself or chiming on earlier is regretted, or others who may be regretting their choices. It does help to get in early on these polls to express any concerns you have with how things are being conducted (important to carefully consider the original post). Might be fun if you hosted one of these Interactive Polls, Pedro. I'd be very interested to see your approach.

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

For the way I approached and preferred to interpret this "Music Goes to the Movies (terrific title), I thought about individual songs that not only were not written for the movies originally but were not as central to the film as something like Purple Rain, or Tommy, The Wall, Quadrophenia (and nor would be the artists/bands as integral in the way to approach this that made the most sense to me -- the original post is quite flexible in terms of the expectations). To me that is a very different exercise. Those films exist because of the music, and I would sooner call that "Movies Go to the Music" than "Music Goes to the Movies".


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2023 at 08:54
You guys and gals should propose more bad music in these polls, because - again - it is not easy to come to a vote. My shortlist consists of half of the suggestions: Girls Against Boys, The Veils, Nancy Sinatra, Bob Dylan, Van Halen and Brian Eno...
Then, I want Van Halen to be in (they procure me always so much pleasure!) as well as Nancy Sinatra (the most touching of all), so there's one slot left. Hmm... Bob Dylan it is.

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The movies from which my songs come from each have a connection to The Fifth Element.

For Dazed and Confused, both movies have Milla Jovavich.

For Better Off Dead, the composer of the score is Rupert Hine who was a producer for Eric Serra for The Fifth Element. Rupert Hine and Eric Serra also cowrote the song "The Experience of Love" for the James Bond film GoldenEye.

I knew about Milla Jovavich before but learned the Rupert Hine connection when I thought about his song for the new wave playlist. I was wondering what else he had done.
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