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    Posted: June 08 2023 at 12:35
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/book-ban-backlash-utah-parent-successfully-blocks-bible-from-schools/ss-AA150kEH?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=0d182ac66e5e493286a095b4efce83d9&ei=65#image=1
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Indeed.
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There's a difference between banning books from schools and preventing the general public from attaining access to books of their choice.  

Students can access "school banned books" outside of their school day. 
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I like this part in the article "And now, Utah, a state with a 66% Mormon population, has received a request to review the Book of Mormon because it contains violence, including battles, beheadings, and kidnappings, per The Salt Lake Tribune."
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I've thought about this tactic for quite some time now. I honestly don't know why this took so long. It's such an obvious and perfect counter offensive. Now when will the zoologists start being vocal about all the other non-binary species on the plant to drive home the "In God's Image" or "God is perfect" trope?
I think the liberal crowd just see these things as obvious and not needing the bull horn the conservatives use.
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Nice! Thanks for posting!
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In general, most Americans are opposed to banning books in public and school libraries, over 70%. It's a very loud and vocal minority that have been pushing for these bans. We need to push back, especially because there are people out there that cannot afford these books and rely on libraries for them.
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It's disgusting how much weight is given to that minority. In Florida, a school removed the 2020 inauguration poem for Biden because a parent argued it included references of critical race theory, “indirect hate messages,” gender ideology and indoctrination.

https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article275671496.html

A review committee decided it was inappriate for elementary school students but okay for middle school

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Republicans are sociopathic criminal traitors, and they will pay for their crimes against humanity.

Fascists, all of them, and they are a dying breed.   Thank God.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."   -- John F. Kennedy
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

In general, most Americans are opposed to banning books in public and school libraries, over 70%. It's a very loud and vocal minority that have been pushing for these bans. We need to push back, especially because there are people out there that cannot afford these books and rely on libraries for them.


Hi,

I've been in the West Coast too long, and not sure how things are in other spots, but my take is that a lot of folks in government are trying really hard to do whatever they want, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT WITH A PUBLILC VOTE! And to me, this is the great "disgrace" in politics in America right now ... completely ignoring the public sentiment ... and it will continue until we learn to make smarter choices for folks in government, and REMOVE the folks that think their this and that is better than the public.

The "public" is not always right, or wrong, but a Senate and House doing their own thing, just because they are mostly Republican and they know they could not get the same policies passed in an election ... those folks need to be removed!
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

There's a difference between banning books from schools and preventing the general public from attaining access to books of their choice.  

Students can access "school banned books" outside of their school day. 

Go to Hell, Fascist.   You and your cause will be swept away by the good people of this country.

B o o k   B u r n e r.



  I was speaking to the article that JD posted... where a school planned on banning the Bible. I live in a country that supports Separation of Church and State. Read the "Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment" to the United State's constitution.  U.S. Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black stated in Everson v. Board of Education that “the First Amendment has erected a wall between church and state..."

 I am for banning Pornographic photos/illustrated porn from elementary schools.   If you want your kids to view porn photos...you can buy it for them,  Atavachron. However, I feel that 7 year-olds should not view porn provided by elementary schools.  

I'm against burning books.  Why did you accuse me of burning books, Atavachron?  I never said such thing.  Furthermore, I'm not a Fascist, Communist, Republican, Bolshevik, or Democrat.  

I am for peace and freedom of speech.  I am for all books being made available to the general public. That includes the Bible and porn.  I am anti-war.  If that's what you call a fascist, Atavachron...then I meet your personal definition.  Wink  Have a nice day, Atavachron.


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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

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I'm against burning books.  
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Furthermore, I'm not a Fascist, Communist, Republican, Bolshevik, or Democrat.  
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I am for peace and freedom of speech.  I am for all books being made available to the general public. That includes the Bible and porn.  I am anti-war.  
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Hi,

Pretty much my sentiments, but I have personal history with my Father having had his work "censored" by the government, and what the result of all that was, when it all came to an end ... all of a sudden there were 25 political parties, no one could agree on anything, and many went after each other with guns, knives, and rolling pins. A wonderful historical moment for a country that is a gross embarrassment to the human spirit all over.

Burning books, and locking them up, is not the problem ... the attitudes of the parents and their very own "indoctrination" is the problem ... and when a government does it to "show off its power" (hello Florida!!!) ... you know that something is not right, and sooner or later the Supreme Court needs to stand up and be counted, or be just another handful of fools in a sinking ship!
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Hey man there are rebublican Progheads as well. diversity!
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^ Sorry, you're right.  I should've said extreme Right Wingers, and everyone who voted for Donald J. Trump .
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

I'm against burning books.  Why did you accuse me of burning books, Atavachron?  I never said such thing.  Furthermore, I'm not a Fascist, Communist, Republican, Bolshevik, or Democrat.  
I am for peace and freedom of speech.  I am for all books being made available to the general public. That includes the Bible and porn.  I am anti-war.  If that's what you call a fascist, Atavachron...then I meet your personal definition.  Wink  Have a nice day, Atavachron.


Well then I spoke too soon--   I should've said the pathetic, anti-human Right Wing movement in this country.

At this moment Jack Smith is serving justice, helping the country rise up, and cast off the  S I C K  A G E N D A  of the Right Wing and all their pathetic, misled supporters.

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I apologize for the 'Fascist' remark directed at omphaloskepsis, it was unnecessary.





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I'm neither left or right wing. Personally, I don't care. Simple as that.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Republicans are sociopathic criminal traitors, and they will pay for their crimes against humanity.

Fascists, all of them, and they are a dying breed.   Thank God.




I would agree with that a lot of Republicans are sociopathic criminal traitors but not all.  I would hope that someday they will pay for their crimes against humanity. 

I would also have to say the same thing about a lot of Democrats as well.  For the past 3 years I feel like I’m living in some kind of matrix.  The anti-science, the misinformation, the censorship was and still is mostly perpetrated by the Democratic Party.  The Democrats have trampled all over the 1st, 5th and 7th amendment.

As far as modern day book burning, this should never happen. Senator Elizabeth Warren, a Democrat, wrote a letter to Amazon CEO to ban certain books she didn’t like.  Not that it should matter that she’s a Democrat, but it certainly should matter that she’s a US Senator.

Adults should have the right of choice to read or not to read what want. I get that there are a lot of questionable books out there, but who gets to decide which ones should be banned? The decision should be up the individual if they choose to read them or not.

The question of which books should be circulated among our school system should be evolving around an ongoing honest debate.
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^ That is a weak argument.   Democrats anti-science?   Yeah I don't think so... and as far as Elizabeth Warren goes, I'm betting her move to have certain books removed in schools was rebuffed, as it should've been.

Be clear:  Republicans would rather burn the U.S. down than keep losing elections.   They are, both their politicians & their voters,  a n t i - d e m o c r a t i c.   

So---   if you want to equivocate Democrats with the Psychotic Fascist Party the GOP has become, you go ahead and do that.





Edited by Atavachron - June 13 2023 at 11:47
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