Queen

Queen are here as prog-related (emphasis on the related bit) so everyone is allowed to review their albums if they so wish.

This topic feels very trollish. Take this topic in coordination with your last, My posts and communications with the message

telefunk wrote: This site is soooo outdated I can't believe it still sortof functions. Where are my posts and communications? What a clunky site!

and I suggest, if you don't like the forum/site or people reviewing music you don't think should be reviewed here (or here at all), you should leave the site (or leave it again).

telefunk wrote: Can we please stop reviews of queen albums?  Or should we include releases by elton john (love him but not really prog) and Liberace?

Interesting that your concern is that Queen is not Prog apparently while you decide to post this in the Prog Recommendations/Featured albums forum instead of the Proto-Prog and Prog-Related Lounge (Queen is in Prog Related, which is not considered to be a Prog category) or the General Music Discussion forum if you are against it being reviewed at all on this site and it being in Prog Related.

And if we could review Prog songs, hell, I would review EJ's "Love Les Bleeding/ Funeral for a Friend." By the way, many consider, say, Queen II to have not only some musical Prog relation (I guess cause of the art rock qualities) but to have prog music credentials.

People can review what they like in PA (you too can ask them not to, just don't expect people to listen or care), including Genesis least or non-Prog albums.

I moved this thread to the Prog-Related Lounge where it belongs.

Edited by Logan - June 08 2023 at 12:41

telefunk wrote: Can we please stop reviews of queen albums?  Or should we include releases by elton john (love him but not really prog) and Liberace?

Telefunk...drop the "n", add a "c". Include the word "off" at the end if you wish. Then ignore.

I can do without Sir Elton, but Liberace... now there was some serious Lounge prog.

I was actually vehemently against the inclusion of Queen on the site when it happened. OK we have a prog related section and maybe they fit but my argument was always that they were way too popular to warrant inclusion. In truth we really don't need reviews of Queen, one of the most popular and recognised artists ever in the history of music. They were not ever influential in prog circles at all and cleverly exploited whatever was out there. Personally I prefer them when they were out an out a heavy rock band. Live At The Rainbow is as good as it got until they went down the artsy/pop route. Innuendo is a cool album as well but there is an awful lot of stuff I could care less about. Sorry!

richardh wrote: I was actually vehemently against the inclusion of Queen on the site when it happened. OK we have a prog related section and maybe they fit but my argument was always that they were way too popular to warrant inclusion. In truth we really don't need reviews of Queen, one of the most popular and recognised artists ever in the history of music. They were not ever influential in prog circles at all and cleverly exploited whatever was out there. Personally I prefer them when they were out an out a heavy rock band. Live At The Rainbow is as good as it got until they went down the artsy/pop route. Innuendo is a cool album as well but there is an awful lot of stuff I could care less about. Sorry!

I've actually never liked Queen that much, and something like The Prophets songs which I posted, I don't find very convincing even as Prog Related. I have heard the Queen influence in kinds of more modern prog, but not that kind of Prog I tended to be into. As for the Prog Related category, it's kind of a mess. I like having the category but it is very inconsistent partially because the site's expectations have changed and some the owner has wanted, and also because some people presented more detailed and thoughtful cases than others. Having Queen is here partially, as a famous popular band, to bring in traffic. And looking at those top Prog Related albums, I would associate those Bowie ones (Low and Blackstar) with Prog... Not traditional Prog but the kind that embraces things like Krautrock and Art Rock with a sense of experimentation).

here is the top 250: CLICK

And I've just been glad to have place on this site for Terry Riley and, I was going to say Serge Gainsbourg but he is not in (ah, I think my addition may have got unmade when the site was updated -- wish I had saved my bio).

As for reviewing, in general I would rather people review newer albums and less rated older ones, but I just saw a review on the front page of King Crimson's Islands and that made me happy.

Or: please state clearly which adolescent commercial simplistic band has no place on this PROGRESSIVE music site?