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Poll Question: Which is your favourite album?
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    Posted: June 08 2023 at 05:52

 3 stars 1987: Martha & the Muffins - Far Away in Time - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kUMhEpoDGLXYhdjNmpqeF60E4wSHMlkmU
 4 stars 1987: The Psychedelic Furs - Midnight to Midnight - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaB6kLqtS0ZO4wfsgEKdhtwi1Cfm4bunf
 3 stars 1987: Siouxsie & the Banshees - Through the Looking Glass - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l7190_geXxsZhFZiiIz5DXXpWWvtxEjMI
 
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Never thought of them as new wave, but Depeche mode gets the vote out of these, easily, for me. One of the best albums of the 80s in general IMO. Tongue

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Never thought of them as new wave, but Depeche mode gets the vote out of these, easily, for me. One of the best albums of the 80s IMO. Tongue

Depeche Mode are one of the first bands I think of when it comes to New Wave bands, and I agree: Music for the Masses is one of Depeche Mode's best albums. Thumbs Up
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Even though it's not new wave and Paul's lowest rated album, Diesel and Dust by Midnight Oil.
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Sisters of Mercy - Floodland  (Gothic Rock)
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Black > Sisters of Mercy > The Cure
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1 Sisters of Mercy
2 The Cure
3 Midnight Oil
4 Depeche Mode
5 New Order
6. Sting

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1. T'Pau
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The Suzanne Vega album isn't New Wave, but it's my favourite.
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none... or The Joshua Tree

At this stage, new wave was stale (10 years old) and became Old Wave
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

none... or The Joshua Tree

At this stage, new wave was stale (10 years old) and became Old Wave

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The only one of these I own is Midnight Oil's Diesel and Dust which was one of the first CDs I bought. Seeing Icehouse, I have the debut on cassette, been many years. I adored the title song in the 80s. I can get some New Wave kind of qualities in the Midnight Oil, but I had never thought of it as New Wave. I have read through these threads and I still don't get how New Wave is being defined for the albums lists. That might be worthy of its own non-poll topic. Think I have heard that whole Men Without Hats album, but all I remember is the title track.
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Pretty sure Suzanne Vega isn't New Wave but she gets my vote.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The only one of these I own is Midnight Oil's Diesel and Dust which was one of the first CDs I bought. Seeing Icehouse, I have the debut on cassette, been many years. I adored the title song in the 80s. I can get some New Wave kind of qualities in the Midnight Oil, but I had never thought of it as New Wave. I have read through these threads and I still don't get how New Wave is being defined for the albums lists. That might be worthy of its own non-poll topic. Think I have heard that whole Men Without Hats album, but all I remember is the title track.

All of these polls were compiled from Google's year-by-year lists of New Wave albums, which is how Suzanne Vega found her way onto this poll, even though I've never thought of her as a New Wave artist. Smile
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^ Thanks. I just found and read this article (quite short, here's an excerpt). https://www.masterclass.com/articles/new-wave-music-guide

Quote 5 Characteristics of New Wave Music
New wave music encompasses many styles from the 1970s and 1980s, yet several characteristics tend to unify the movement:

1. Reduced blues influence: Unlike the prevailing rock music of the 1970s, new wave music does not draw heavily from the blues tradition.

2. Punk energy: In the early days of new wave, the term was used interchangeably with punk. While later, there was a clear distinction between punks like The Sex Pistols and new wavers like Talking Heads, the two styles are united by intense energy and lyrics that can be shouted as well as sung.

3. Rhythmic experimentation: New wave artists show varying approaches to their rhythm sections. However many groups from the era, including Devo, Talking Heads, The Police, Adam and the Ants, Bow Wow Wow, and Duran Duran, ambitiously approached rhythm. Many of these groups regularly used rhythmic ideas from Jamaica, Cuba, and West Africa.

4. Increasing use of keyboards: As new wave evolved in the early ‘80s, electronic keyboards became prominent. Some new wave groups always remained guitar-driven, like The Cars, Talking Heads, and The Police. Others, like Depeche Mode, Gary Numan, and Human League, elevated keyboards to the primary instrument.

5. Mainstream appeal: Unlike punk music, new wave cracked the mainstream pop charts. MTV was filled with new wave music videos; in fact, the network's very first music video was from a new wave group, The Buggles.


It's a broad church, and I probably had a very limited notion of it in the 80s and now. While I get New Wave qualities from that Midnight Oil album, to me it's more of an alternative rock type album rooted in blues rock. It has a kind kind of pub rock quality to me, but they also have this kind of punk energy ands New Wave slickness as an undercurrent.

I guess under the kind of broad way google seems to use New Wave, some Cardiacs could count. This always seemed on the New Wave side to me. Is This the Life?   (only Cardiacs song I recall hearing on the mainstream radio here, uni radio liked Cardiacs).



And if for a kind of synths sound, then something like Stoneage Dinosaurs (a very muted Cardiacs track).



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Anyway, despite my not associating that Midnight Oil much with New Wave and my lack of familiarity with the choices, I will give it's album a vote. It had songs from it all over rock radio in the late 80s, early 90s here, but this, which wasn't, was my favourite off the album.
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Gotta go with None Of The Above.
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^ Wow, how very fitting.

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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Even though it's not new wave and Paul's lowest rated album, Diesel and Dust by Midnight Oil.

Those guys are so good. I voted for them, too.

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The only one of these I own is Midnight Oil's Diesel and Dust which was one of the first CDs I bought. Seeing Icehouse, I have the debut on cassette, been many years. I adored the title song in the 80s. I can get some New Wave kind of qualities in the Midnight Oil, but I had never thought of it as New Wave. I have read through these threads and I still don't get how New Wave is being defined for the albums lists. That might be worthy of its own non-poll topic. Think I have heard that whole Men Without Hats album, but all I remember is the title track.

MO sounds like the opposite of NW. Theirs is the only album I could vote for in the poll. Thumbs Up
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^ And I ended up voting for MO. I have listened to that album countless times -- it's become a true classic of Australian rock. The qualities I hear are me associating it with what I have subsequently read being associated with the New Wave umbrella, but yeah, it is pretty much the opposite of what I consider New Wave to be. Midnight Oil are rockers (rockers with post-punk and progressive qualities, while also having music that is very direct). Not surprisingly, since this is Prog Archives lots of us have a strong interest in classification. It's been said before that talking and arguing genre classification is our forums lifeblood.

I had not noticed that Paul only gave it two stars, I'm actually rather surprised despite the fact that he tends to rate low that which I like. It probably is those punky, aggressive vocals, which are not universes apart from Tim Smith of Cardiacs. A reason why I thought of Cardiacs above.
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