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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

I go with that album that recently got my new admiration: Split Enz's Mental Notes.
 
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As one of my all-time favorite albums, I vote for that one too.
 

Split Enz sound like an Aussie version of the Cardiacs, only much better. I've tried listening to all of the Cardiacs albums, but my heart wasn't really in it. Tongue 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

I go with that album that recently got my new admiration: Split Enz's Mental Notes.
 
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As one of my all-time favorite albums, I vote for that one too.
 

Split Enz sound like an Aussie version of the Cardiacs, only much better. I've tried listening to all of the Cardiacs albums, but my heart wasn't really in it. Tongue 
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I have to admit, they're not an easy listen.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

I go with that album that recently got my new admiration: Split Enz's Mental Notes.
 
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As one of my all-time favorite albums, I vote for that one too.
Split Enz sound like an Aussie version of the Cardiacs, only much better. I've tried listening to all of the Cardiacs albums, but my heart wasn't really in it. Tongue 
 
I've never heard anyone compare Split Enz to Cardiacs before, and that comparison has never occurred to me. To me, "Mental Notes" is a fully prog album that in places is reminiscent of Genesis.
 
BTW, I can hear the New Zealanders scoffing from over here at you saying "Aussie version" about Split Enz.
 
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

I go with that album that recently got my new admiration: Split Enz's Mental Notes.
 
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As one of my all-time favorite albums, I vote for that one too.
Split Enz sound like an Aussie version of the Cardiacs, only much better. I've tried listening to all of the Cardiacs albums, but my heart wasn't really in it. Tongue 
 
I've never heard anyone compare Split Enz to Cardiacs before, and that comparison has never occurred to me. To me, "Mental Notes" is a fully prog album that in places is reminiscent of Genesis.
 
BTW, I can hear the New Zealanders scoffing from over here at you saying "Aussie version" about Split Enz.
 

On second thoughts, Split Enz are too good to compare them with the Cardiacs and I had no idea Split Enz are from New Zealand, but I'll make a mental note to remember that. Smile
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I wouldn't call any of those albums in the list "New Wave"Wacko

I suppose Art Rock would be the more common term for that era of Bowie, Sparks Eno, but as "we" often talk about Proto Prog and Proto Punk, early Sparks surely must be Proto New Wave. 


Art Rock in central Canada (Mtl/Tor) was for Genesis, ELP, Yes, etc...

Bowie/Roxy/Sparks were definitely Glam/Glitter for anyone in North Am.

Really? Art Rock is something primarely I associate with Sparks, 10CC, Bowie, Roxy Music, XTC... but I'm not from central Canada or North America.

Yeah, it's been skewed over decades towards make-up and costume-wearing bands (which PG was doing anyways)
Wakeman and his stardust-sprinkled cape was also quite glittery. LOL

Art Rock was a full-blown prog genre here before being blown to bits in Heavy/Crossover/Eclectic.

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Nicked Kunt
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I'm glad somebody caught that one Wink.


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Edited by Sean Trane - May 22 2023 at 09:34
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Proto- , Post- , Pachycephalo- , Perplexed- New/Old/Not-so-Old/Not-so-New/Middle-Aged Wave is beyond the scope of my brain. Voted for Station to Station.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Art Rock was a full-blown prog genre here before being blown to bits in Heavy/Crossover/Eclectic.
Those three latter genres don't really exist though. Just here at PA, which doesn't really count.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Art Rock was a full-blown prog genre here before being blown to bits in Heavy/Crossover/Eclectic.
Those three latter genres don't really exist though. Just here at PA, which doesn't really count.

but they do count, when i see an artist/band classified as heavy prog or crossover or eclectic, I understand what kind of music I'm dealing with. 
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Yes they exist like Light, Fun and Sprawling Prog... three subgenres I plan to suggest soon.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Art Rock was a full-blown prog genre here before being blown to bits in Heavy/Crossover/Eclectic.
Those three latter genres don't really exist though. Just here at PA, which doesn't really count.

but they do count, when i see an artist/band classified as heavy prog or crossover or eclectic, I understand what kind of music I'm dealing with. 


they're pure figments of PA's twisted collective  imagination

one of the reasons why I was opposed to the division was because "ecclectic" and "Xover" were pure fantasy...
Heav prog was OK with me, and TBH, the only thing I don't like to X-over is its name.

Unfortunately constant Censoredrevisionism Pig strikes on PA as well.Ouch
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Five favourite songs from five classic albums during David Bowie's Golden Years.
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Sparks - Propaganda


I'm on guard again but unprepared to fend for myself in a battle
You won't tell me why the shrubbery moves
Or why there always has to be subterfusion
You won't even say "at ease"
After waging a costly siege
When a potentate ain't so potent in his state he summons help fast
Unilaterally I withdraw
What was peace is now a grand coup d'etat
The Purple Heart for valour please
And no heart for you Denise
Reinforcements, reinforcements
I could use a strong rear guard
Reinforcements, reinforcements
First the left flank, then the right
I'd sooner work the PX tonight

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News of my distress will ever reach the
Homefront and about my camouflage
Well, it didn't work on you ... in fact most
Things they tell recruits never seem to do

Raise my rank if I should last another night so tortuous
Reinforcements, reinforcements
I don't want a tete-a-tete
Reinforcements, reinforcements
Let's reach accord, and ink a pact
Then, please dismiss your regiment






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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Art Rock was a full-blown prog genre here before being blown to bits in Heavy/Crossover/Eclectic.
Those three latter genres don't really exist though. Just here at PA, which doesn't really count.

but they do count, when i see an artist/band classified as heavy prog or crossover or eclectic, I understand what kind of music I'm dealing with. 


they're pure figments of PA's twisted collective  imagination

one of the reasons why I was opposed to the division was because "eclectic" and "Xover" were pure fantasy...
Heav prog was OK with me, and TBH, the only thing I don't like to X-over is its name.

Unfortunately constant Censoredrevisionism Pig strikes on PA as well.Ouch

While I do not disagree with what you say here, all I meant to say was that when I see an artist classified in any of those three subgenres, I know exactly what I'm going to listen to.  

Crossover is basically eclectic light, more or less. I don't have a problem with it. 
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^ I never know what to expect when I delve into Eclectic Prog, which is part of what makes it eclectic. There are some Eclectic Prog artists I Love, such as Steve Hackett, but then there are other Eclectic Prog artists that I've never managed to Acquire the Taste for, such as Gentle Giant for instance. Smile
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Sparks - Propaganda

Propaganda is the only Sparks album I ever bought, mainly on the strength of this song...


But then I heard B.C. and wished I'd saved my money. Confused
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4 stars 1975: Eno - Another Green World - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kJ6pm0l3Tx-jLt0l3HP52SjaIAL6uF0-M

A hardy perennial favourite from Brian Eno, mainly remembered as the theme tune to the BBC 2 arts programme, Arena.
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Loads of great albums here! Ended up voting Horses. 
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Hey, you forgot the first Tubes album. Wink
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Hey, you forgot the first Tubes album. Wink

The only song I know by the Tubes is this one from the Xanadu soundtrack...
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