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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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3) Taken from the film "Aprile", directed by Nanni Moretti.
Yma Sumac: Bo Mambo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhUBJZdL8BY
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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2) Taken from the film Il caimano, directed by Nanni Moretti:
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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Yes, it's ok, this one: |
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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^ Which makes me think of a Jim Jarmusch film: Mystery Train, which has both songs by Elvis and by Roy Orbinson, if I remember well...
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45819 |
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The End by The Doors is a very famous song. Roy Orbison - not as famous, maybe i will post a song. I've always enjoyed his music, he's much better than Elvis (who admitted at some point tried to imitate Orbison
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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Another one from me: This one gave actually the title to the film. It came out on Leonard Cohen's album Ten New Songs (2002) and was used by Wim Wenders in the film Land of Plenty (2004). Leonard Cohen (with Sharon Robinson) - The Land of Plenty: |
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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^ Nice suggestion, but the video doesn't work for me, neither several
others that I found, but
this one seems to
work. It made me think of the Piano/Cello piece Spiegel im Spiegel by Arvo Pärt that was used in the film Gerry by Gus van Sant, but I already presented that one in the Samsara poll... @Christian: Yes, I understand (and understood) and I regret - as you do - if this will/would limit your participation. Maybe some kind of "Aha-Erlebnis" will give something... (or suggestions by others might trigger something). @Cristi: Well, I dared to put up something by David Bowie, not really an unknown artist... ![]() |
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1) Keith Jarrett: The Koln Concert, Part 1 (excerpt) - taken from the movie "Cario Diario" by Nanni Moretti
My first song is not a real song, it is a piece from 'The Koln Concert', Part 1, 1975, by Keith Jarrett. In the film Caro Diario by Nanni Moretti, for which he won the best director award at Cannes, Nanni Moretti inserts five and a half minutes of Part 1 of the Koln Concert and does so in a very courageous way, i.e., without matching any words to these five minutes of piano solo. Keith Jarrett's melancholic music accompanies the images of Nanni Moretti riding a Vespa down the road to the desolate place where they killed Pier Paolo Pasolini. Note that Jarrett's music was performed on 24 January 1975, shortly before Pasolini's death (2 November 1975). I discovered Keith Jarrett thanks to the film Caro Diario by Nanni Moretti (1993). Edited by jamesbaldwin - May 30 2023 at 07:00 |
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Kees:
Exit Music is my fave song by Radiohead....
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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In this case, I choose a director, Nanni Moretti, who recently presented his 'Il Sol dell'avvenire' at Cannes, and I look for some songs that he has given space to in some scenes of his films. There are also some recurring songs, in his films, that he has helped to make famous or popular, songs to which he has given a free video because, at times, he has used them to seal with music some crucial passages of the film.
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Mila-13 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2021 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1555 |
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The Sorcerer’s Apprentice, a symphonic poem by the French
composer Paul Dukas (1879), based on J:W. von Goethe’s poem of the same name (1797) will be my
first suggestion. ![]() Here’s an excerpt from Fantasia followed by a full
live recording. The entire piece was used in the film btw. Paul A. Dukas: L'apprenti sorcier (Orchestre National de France) Edited by Mila-13 - May 30 2023 at 04:51 |
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45819 |
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I thought of Radiohead's Exit Music, too, it's been used in several movies, TV shows.
Also thought of The Doors - The End and its brilliant use in Apocalypse Now. But it's just too famous to suggest here. David Lynch likes to use Roy Orbison in his movies, too famous again? ![]() I'll find some other examples soon.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15186 |
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Sorry for repeating myself. I'm well aware that there are many and I understand what you're looking for. The thing is just, my way of watching films stands in the way of this, as I will appreciate them as integral work without normally perceiving the music as a separate entity, with the implication that I don't normally know, afterwards, what music was in the film. Which means that the fingers on one hand, maybe two, are probably enough to count the things that I even know qualify. The three things I have posted are rare exceptions in this respect. Lucky as I am, one of them will count, so that I can participate. Well, I'm kind of ambitious now to find some others, but for the sake of this poll I just hope others have a different attitude to music in films.
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I can think of so many. The first two songs I thought of were from Harold and Maude and The Graduate, but despite being released before on albums, the music feels like it was composed for the film. An interesting one is Lard von Trier's Breaking the Waves, where he uses songs for the interstices between "acts" (even Pedro I think would appreciate "songs" alone in this context). Great film from a great.
Tarantino (and Lynch) is a favourite of mine for taking older music and inserting it in his films. Across 110th Street off Jackie Brown is one favourite but I am going to mention "Bang Bang" from Nancy Sinatra's 1966 album How Does That Grab You?, which was used in Tarantino's Kill Bill. The song was wriiten by Cher's ex-hubby and music partner Sonny Bono and was released earlier that year on an another 1966 album (A Cher one), The Sonny Side of Chér (1966). |
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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True, but it can have an existence only as film
music (and there has already been an IA poll about that), but also as an autonomous work (autonomous from the film) from
the artist/band. It is this latter category that I'm aiming at. Kill the Sexplayer fits the bill since it also appeared on the Girs Against Boys album Cruise Yourself. Sorry if you cannot connect to that. And maybe my choice of Eric Serra put you on a "wrong" track. Since there are really loads and loads of songs made by artists/bands (and not film music composers) that are used in films, I thought this would be rather open and accessible. I may be mistaken...
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15186 |
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My issue was finding things that qualify from the beginning, so the more constrained the definition, the harder it is. You may not connect to my lack of interest for the music/film connection despite loving both films and music, but honestly, I don't have a clue what was composed for the soundtrack and what wasn't, and I'm not really interested. I thought soundtrack is what the music for films is called, be it composed specifically for the film or not. Clerks have a soundtrack CD. Were the songs on it composed for the soundtrack? Maybe not, but I don't have any idea whatsoever, and why would I care?
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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From a very famous artist (and gosh, many films use his work...) and a very famous film (well, I guess...), from the album 1. Outside that appeared in 1995 and used for the opening titles and the end credits in the film Lost Highway by David Lynch, from 1997: David Bowie - I'm Deranged: |
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Hmmm, maybe I was not clear enough in my OP, so before we go further let me know how I can be more explicit about this:
So, I specifically wanted to exclude film scores or songs from soundtracks that only exists as or on those soundtracks (or as reference to the soundtrack). Well, I know Michael Nyman has done different versions of The Piano, as maybe did Sakamoto with Merry Christmas... but their main reference point remains the film. Prince is quite a unique case, but yes I want songs (or tracks) not a whole film score. So, with "this is not about film music" I mean that the music should have an existence otherwise. This can all be open to discussion of course, but not for this poll... ![]() Sorry, if this complicates things. I thought it would be the other way around... I'll give another example. Edited by suitkees - May 29 2023 at 10:38 |
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Hi,
Sorry ... I can't do songs, but I will take the title cut of "Purple Rain". Goodness ... no PURPLE RAIN yet? it is by far one of the few rock films that is actually a film and music altogether and tied beautifully, even if you don't like Prince! It is a fabulous film, and emotional makes the music from the album even stronger and richer ... no rock album has EVER come close to the quality, story and continuity of that film. Ryuichi Sakamoto's soundtracks are ... amazing. though I love MCML, in many ways the music in The Sheltering Sky is fabulous, as is the music for "Little Buddha" which features some outstanding soprano pieces in classical music. I also like what he did with "The Last Emperor", for which he shared the Oscar with David Byrne ... in what was a reversal ... David did the Chinese music, and Ryuichi did the Western music for all the film! And they took home the gold! Deservedly so!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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And a bonus, probably too well known this one. RIP Ryuichi Sakamoto, Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence. |
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