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    Posted: May 28 2023 at 12:27
I see people posting stats and such all over the internet, but I don't think I ever put them altogether, beyond reading it then and there but remembering reading that 70% of the commerce is from bands/artists from the 60/70s, and I'm curious which ones are popular with the young people. The Beatles are probably a given, but I wonder who else. Probably a "colorful" band with someone they've seen on YouTube, maybe not even in a music setting. Maybe interviews? Sometimes a younger celebrity pushes older artists, and if you have 10 million "followers" it can definitely influence. If I had that many, I'd definitely push my favorite stuff, especially the lesser known stuff, but I digress.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2023 at 14:13

I guess, if you look at RYM's Rock chart ( https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1960-1979/g:rock/pop:4/ ),
you'll have a quite good answer to your question, or at least some answers to look further at.
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Certainly don't base your conclusions based on classic rock radio stations that seem to be nothing but party music for aging fans who are musically stuck in that era.

While some bands like Pink Floyd and The Beatles are universal and timeless, other bands like The Stooges, Can and Velvet Underground who weren't very popular during their time are now considered some of the best examples of classic rock of the era.

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 ^ But if you ask the average 25 year-old about the Velvet Underground they're gonna stare at you like you're a college professor.   And Can, well you can forget about a German Experimental rock band making many new listeners.   AC/DC on the other hand, or Zeppelin or the Stones or Floyd or even Aerosmith, and you have yourself an instant set of new fans.


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Most of the youngsters I know listen to Rap/Hip Hop and they wouldn't know prog or classic rock if it slapped them in the face like a wet flannel. Some of them don't even know who Eric Clapton is. Geek
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That's for our young users to answer, I hope they do. Tongue
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Queen (31), The Beatles (44), Elton John (102), AC/DC (96) Fleetwood Mac (139), Pink Floyd (144) The Rolling Stones (148), David Bowie (175), Led Zeppelin (198) are the nine classic rock (or pop/rock) in Spotify's top 200. It's good indication because of the listeners age demographic.  And it looks about right to me. These are the bands that typically re-enter the charts every once in a while. Even with a couple of songs. Some of their albums never leave and have been in the charts for decades. It's not just because old folks still listen to them. It wouldn't be enough.

Hipper bands such as VU, Stooges and Can are bigger than they ever were, but I think you'd need a top 10 000 list before they start appearing. 
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70's Classic Rock became a handpicked list and as a result many of the great Rock bands in the 70s are now unknown and unwanted. Some people will hear the band FREE and maybe they'll say " Oh yeah..didn't they become BAD COMPANY? FREE have no real meaning to them short of their connection to BAD COMPANY.
,......but in the late 60s and early 70s FREE were interesting to the American youth.

TEN YEARS AFTER, HUMBLE PIE, RORY GALLAGHER, DEEP PURPLE and others were popular and people collected their albums. Living in those times didn't revolve around just liking Led Zeppelin. Today they are presented as an iconic Rock band from the 70s. I don't personally have an issue with that because Led Zeppelin were huge in the 70s , but so were a lot of other people that played stadiums.

You have to research it's history and not believe in everything the media tells you. Humble Pie are thought to be one of the obscure bands from the 70s. A preposterous silly notion ..way to go! Everyone bought Humble Pie albums in the 70s ..why make it seem like they didn't? Is there any reason to not give them credit?


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^ I think a band such are Humble Pie is considered a footnote in the history of rock. More simply forgotten rather than obscure. They didn't really sell that many albums, and they didn't inspired thousands of young men to form a band. Like VU and Stooges has done. I'm not saying it's not an accomplisment to have a scored US gold album, but it's nothing compared to Led Zep. Not then, and most certainly not now. Humble Pie weren't a world wide phenomena either (like all those nine in the Spotify 200 were), and sold virtually nothing outside the anglosphere.




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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

 ^ But if you ask the average 25 year-old about the Velvet Underground they're gonna stare at you like you're a college professor.   And Can, well you can forget about a German Experimental rock band making many new listeners.   AC/DC on the other hand, or Zeppelin or the Stones or Floyd or even Aerosmith, and you have yourself an instant set of new fans.




Well to be fair, the AVERAGE 25 year old doesn't even favor rock any more. Many are lost in the world of electronica, hip hop or indie rock post 2000. I'm talking about those who are hardcore music fans and look beyond the shallow radio playing lists, sanctioned top albums by music rags etc.

In all honesty, the public has never been more scattered regarding music but if you go by college radio stations and more aware youngsters, Stooges, Can and proto-punk acts are quite popular.

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From the early 90s until about ten years ago I had a lot of young people wanting to learn guitar especially songs by Green Day, Nirvana, Metallica and classic rock (Sabbath, ACDC, etc). That has mostly dried up now. Most young people want to do music they can do by themselves, (hip-hop, electronica, etc).
Rock bands are a dying breed. Go to your local rock club, its mostly middle-aged and older people.
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Quote music they can do by themselves, (hip-hop...
Nowadays, a lot of MCs simply buy pre-made beats to rap over. I'm not a huge fan of that personally. I prefer it when the music is made specifically for the song.
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I'm an actual young person, so let me enlighten you guys.*

Steely Dan is probably the biggest one from my experience. I see them referenced literally all the time by young people on Twitter. There's probably more Millenials that know the album Aja by heart than boomers. Fleetwood Mac is one, and it seems like Tusk is especially getting reappraised by the younger generation. Some more new-wave era and later stuff like The Smiths and Talking Heads I see talked about a lot. Young people really like David Byrne for some reason. Also Weather Report much more often than other fusion artists from that period, strangely. That might just be a coincidence honestly. The Grateful Dead seem to come up frequently, as do YMO. Lastly, though I might be especially sensitive to Zappa references (and thus might be a bit biased), he seems to still attract a lot of new fans, which I'm glad to see.

Some specific albums also come up a lot. ITCOTCK is still fairly well known among a surprising amount of people, but I don't see a lot of talk about their other stuff. And I've noticed people who aren't really into older rock music play Black Sabbath's Paranoid a ton. And I mean the album, not just the hit single.

Of course artists like the Beatles and Pink Floyd keep getting discovered by each new generation. But there's some bands commonly seen as classic that don't get brought up that much. Like, for their legendary status, I don't think people talk about the Stones that much anymore. They receive plenty of airplay and most will recognize a lot of their songs, but I don't see them talked about that much.

Also, slightly related, but younger folks have been digging up a lot of Japanese city pop/jazz fusion/yacht rock type artists for some reason. I think the popularity of music you can listen to while you study or work has played a big role in that.

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

And Can, well you can forget about a German Experimental rock band making many new listeners.
No, Can is pretty popular these days, surprisingly. I've seen Tago Mago referenced a decent amount by people you wouldn't expect it of. That's one of those albums that has for some reason gotten a big boost in popularity compared to how popular it was back in the day.

*Of course I'm being a bit sarcastic, and this is from my experience.
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Black Sabbath/Ozzy get a lot of attention by younger crowds. I've never heard any young person mention CAN, VU or Stooges. Maybe on forums but ask em if they actually listen to them...?

At record stores I hear kids looking for the normal classic rock bands, especially Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac, Queen.....some are even looking for 80's new wave bands like Duran Duran.
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Originally posted by Stressed Cheese Stressed Cheese wrote:

I'm an actual young person, so let me enlighten you guys.*

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

And Can, well you can forget about a German Experimental rock band making many new listeners.
No, Can is pretty popular these days, surprisingly. I've seen Tago Mago referenced a decent amount by people you wouldn't expect it of. That's one of those albums that has for some reason gotten a big boost in popularity compared to how popular it was back in the day.

*Of course I'm being a bit sarcastic, and this is from my experience.
Yes, it's all a bit anecdotical. I've got Can's complete 1970's discography and then some, me and plenty of my friends know and love them, Tago Mago, Ege Bamyasi and Future Days are featured on countless "best ever albums"sort of-lists - so I've been thinking that Can is bigger than they actually are myself. But none of their classic albums has sold to gold status anywhere. Not after 50 years and not even in Germany. The most played track on the legendary Tago Mago got about 2.5 million plays on Spotify, where they have a little over 500 000 monthly listeners (Vitamin C, by far their most popular song, has almost 40 million plays though). Not bad considering the type of music they made, but quite moderate compared to well some of the classic rock that really is popular within the mainstream. Yellow Magic Orchestra got half the amount of listeners, even if most of their albums reached number 1. in Japan at the time of their release.
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Steely Dan's current popularity among the younger generation is beyond compare (in the grand scheme of things) - and Fleetwood Mac too, obviously.




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Classic bands popular with young people? Here are the bands that I think fit that criteria in no order:

The Rolling Stones
Queen
Led Zeppelin
The Beatles
Pink Floyd
AC/DC
Metallica
Guns N Roses
Def Leppard
Aerosmith
Rush
The Doors (although maybe not as much as they should be)


Bands most younger people don't have a clue about:

Humble Pie
Uriah Heep
Mountain
Wishbone Ash
Ten Years After
The James Gang
Nektar
ELP
Yes (although more well known than the others in this list)



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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Most of the youngsters I know listen to Rap/Hip Hop and they wouldn't know prog or classic rock if it slapped them in the face like a wet flannel. Some of them don't even know who Eric Clapton is. Geek

Thanks for that!  I'm a certified STEM teacher (science, technology, engineering & math)  in Arizona (US grades 6 through 12), and I once queried my students on musical choices.  They were nearly all into rap, although the girls enjoyed the modern dance music as well.  

They asked what Mr. Stack liked, and I said "well, I like the band Yes!" and on their own, they looked up "Close to the Edge!"  They boys said "not bad!!" 

I think it is a matter of exposure.  The young don't quite get the same exposure us old folks had to amazing progressive rock, hard rock etc., and they call that stuff "Dad Rock!"  

However, some bands like Queen are going through a real resurgence!  



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^ they play a lot of classic rock songs in modern films such as the Marvel Comics films. The Redbone song "Get Your Love" has been exposed to a whole new generation as have many other sci-fi flick soundtrack additions.

It's weird because the younger generations are the first to have the entire history of music at their fingertip so obviously it takes quite a while to digest a lot of music. It's taken me decades to consume somewhere around 25,000 albums (my best estimate).

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When I only listed these
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Queen (31), The Beatles (44), Elton John (102), AC/DC (96) Fleetwood Mac (139), Pink Floyd (144) The Rolling Stones (148), David Bowie (175), Led Zeppelin (198) are the nine classic rock (or pop/rock) in Spotify's top 200.

it was because
Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

remembering reading that 70% of the commerce is from bands/artists from the 60/70s, and I'm curious which ones are popular with the young people.
If I included typically 1980's-early 1990's acts, like some of you do:

Metallica (79), Nirvana (120), Guns N' Roses (146), U2 (189) would be added.

-Bon Jovi, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Bruce Springsteen, Stevie Wonder, Billy Joel, Aerosmith, Pearl Jam and Johnny Cash follows in the top 200-300.
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my daughter is 15 and when I last saw her I asked her about music.  She knew about Queen as one would expect, but didn't know about Iron Maiden, which did surprise me
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