Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Polls
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - What band should be in PA?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

What band should be in PA?
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345 7>
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
I prophesy disaster View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 31 2017
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 4801 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote I prophesy disaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2023 at 08:15
^ Yeah, I second Alice Cooper.
 
No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
Back to Top
Sean Trane View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Prog Folk

Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 20251 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2023 at 09:32
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Boi_da_boi_124 Boi_da_boi_124 wrote:

What prog-related, prog-esque, or overlooked prog bands/artists should have a place in PA?

My picks:
John Coltrane(Jazz/Rock Fusion)
Gary Numan(Prog-Related)
Grateful Dead(Psychedelic/Space Rock or Prog-Related)

Two and three absolutely. But when did ever Coltrane fuse his jazz with anything rock? Well, I know his music more than well enough to answer that myself: Never.

-While Miles took notes and listened to what his younger bandmembers and girlfriends were into (around the time of Coltrane's untimely passing) and added funk & rock grooves into his gradually more electrified jazz.

-Post his 1965-album A Love Supreme, Coltrane spent the two last years of his life going even further out into the spiritual side of avant-garde/free jazz. Always sticking to the acoustic standard jazz "instrument park". The story of jazzfusion had hardly begun in 1967. And while he (as many of the 1960's jazz greats) inspired many outside of the jazz field, he's merely a footnote in the "makings of" this particular story.
Progressive and psychedelic  Jazz, maybe?TongueWink


One could say that McCoy Tyner could have some rock in his 70's album. Ditto for Alice.
Not sure I think that McCoy Tyner or Alice Coltrane ever actually recorded an album full of material that qualify them for a place in the PA-index either. What albums would that be? They were certainly progressive and got themselves groovin' during the early 1970's, but was there ever an element of "rock"?  I would find it easier to make an argument for Pharoah Sanders than both of them.

I guess you didn't read my emoticons, did you?  TongueWink
Wasn't being serious (even if Alice is included in Carlos S' solo entry).

Yeah, Pharoah as well. Sonny Liston Smith and a few more... 

I you want some really cool Tyner album with fusion nearing jazz-rock, then I'd suggest albums between 72 and 77
Sahara, 
Extensions
Song For My Lady
Song For The New World
Atlantis
Fly With The Wind
Focal Point 
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Online
Points: 43769 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2023 at 09:32
Originally posted by Matte Matte wrote:

If bands like Budgie, Triumph and Journey fit in here, AC has to too, I think.

All these three bands are under prog-related. If you think Alice Cooper deserves to be under prog-related, just make a strong case for it, that's all. 
Back to Top
rik wilson View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 28 2021
Location: MATTHEWS,N.C.
Status: Offline
Points: 597 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rik wilson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2023 at 13:15
I suggest adding: New York Rock Ensemble
                              Illusion ( from Baltimore)
                              Goodthunder
                              Stories (Traveling Underground)
                               Sensational Alex Harvey Band ( Impossible Dream)
                               Ursa Major
                              Donovan
                              Small Faces (Ogden's Nut Gone Flake)
Back to Top
Tuzvihar View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: May 18 2005
Location: C. Schinesghe
Status: Offline
Points: 13536 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tuzvihar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2023 at 13:20
Mercyful Fate & King Diamond!

Edited by Tuzvihar - May 25 2023 at 13:20
"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."

Charles Bukowski
Back to Top
AFlowerKingCrimson View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 02 2016
Location: Philly burbs
Status: Offline
Points: 18301 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2023 at 17:39
Did anyone mention PIL yet?
Back to Top
stewe View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Czechoslovakia
Status: Offline
Points: 593 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stewe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2023 at 22:40
Boston. I'd say definitely more prog-related, in most of aspects, than bands such as Journey or Supertramp (which I like anyway).


<a href="http://steveer.ic.cz" rel="nofollow"
Back to Top
Sean Trane View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Prog Folk

Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 20251 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2023 at 01:46
I'dd like to see Goddo as Prog Related Clown






Edited by Sean Trane - May 26 2023 at 02:02
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
Back to Top
Saperlipopette! View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 20 2010
Location: Tomorrowland
Status: Offline
Points: 11696 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2023 at 02:16
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


I guess you didn't read my emoticons, did you?  TongueWink
Wasn't being serious (even if Alice is included in Carlos S' solo entry).

Yeah, Pharoah as well. Sonny Liston Smith and a few more...
I did, and I read them as you weren't serious about your John Coltrane genre-suggestions. Not that you were joking about McCoy Tyner and Alice Coltrane as well.

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I you want some really cool Tyner album with fusion nearing jazz-rock, then I'd suggest albums between 72 and 77
Sahara, 
Extensions
Song For My Lady
Song For The New World
Atlantis
Fly With The Wind
Focal Point 

I own them all actually. All pretty incredible. McCoy's got the strongest 1970's discography in jazz that I'm aware of. When I listen to them, it's sort of easy to hear that they're 70's and not 60's jazz. So although he sticks to to a "purer" for of jazz, there's something about the spirited energy and drive that resembles his jazz rock fusion contemporaries. I could also add some personal favorites:

Expansions
Time For Tyner
Sama Layuca
Asante
Enlightenment (live)
Horizon (from 1980. Perhaps the closest he got ever got to progressive/fusion. The added violinist John Blake that makes me think of Magma at times.
-and Cosmos, which is basically Asante + an album worth of extra material...

-I find every single album listed here more interesting and thrilling than his "hit-album" The Real McCoy.

It you haven't heard this one yet, you're in for a treat:
Back to Top
frankbostick View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 20 2008
Location: italy
Status: Offline
Points: 268 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote frankbostick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2023 at 06:46
The Stranglers
The Tubes
XTC
Tuxedomoon
Back to Top
Wuthering View Drop Down
Forum Newbie
Forum Newbie


Joined: October 01 2013
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 3 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wuthering Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2023 at 08:29
Recently departed keyboard maestro Don Shinn (influence on both Keith Emerson and Jon Lord), brought out two great jazz fusion albums in 1969 (Temples with Prophets and Departures) and carried on as a 'keyboard for hire' in both prog and non-prog projects. Don was also known for 'keyboard abuse', as was Keith.
Back to Top
Dr. Occulator View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 04 2006
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 628 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dr. Occulator Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2023 at 15:19
XTC !!!
My Doc Told Me I Have Doggie Head.
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Online
Points: 3122 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2023 at 15:44
This is reputedly the proggiest Alice Cooper:
Back to Top
richardh View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 28085 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2023 at 00:43
I assumed XTC were already on PA!
Back to Top
Sean Trane View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Prog Folk

Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 20251 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2023 at 04:04
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I you want some really cool Tyner album with fusion nearing jazz-rock, then I'd suggest albums between 72 and 77
Sahara, 
Extensions
Song For My Lady
Song For The New World
Atlantis
Fly With The Wind
Focal Point 

I own them all actually. All pretty incredible. McCoy's got the strongest 1970's discography in jazz that I'm aware of. When I listen to them, it's sort of easy to hear that they're 70's and not 60's jazz. So although he sticks to to a "purer" for of jazz, there's something about the spirited energy and drive that resembles his jazz rock fusion contemporaries. I could also add some personal favorites:

Expansions
Time For Tyner
Sama Layuca
Asante
Enlightenment (live)
Horizon (from 1980. Perhaps the closest he got ever got to progressive/fusion. The added violinist John Blake that makes me think of Magma at times.
-and Cosmos, which is basically Asante + an album worth of extra material...

-I find every single album listed here more interesting and thrilling than his "hit-album" The Real McCoy.

It you haven't heard this one yet, you're in for a treat:





MMMhhhh!!!...

I still have that Horizons album in vinyl
Not a big fan of Layuca (too Latino for me, if memory serves)
Love Asante's expanded edition too

And yes, I find Real McCoy somewhat lesser than all those 70's albums.


.
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
Back to Top
jamesbaldwin View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: September 25 2015
Location: Milano
Status: Offline
Points: 5989 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2023 at 04:16
Greatful Dead isnt on PA?

I'm surprised. 

Not even on Proto-prog or Prog-related?
Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
Back to Top
twosteves View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 01 2007
Location: NYC/Rhinebeck
Status: Offline
Points: 4091 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote twosteves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2023 at 07:41
Fleet Foxes - songs like Third of May/Odaigahara pretty cool better then new Yes 😁🎶😏




Edited by twosteves - May 27 2023 at 07:51
Back to Top
mathman0806 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 06 2014
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 6442 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mathman0806 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2023 at 07:53
^The new benchmark for determining whether a band should be on PA: "Are they cooler than the new Yes?"
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Online
Points: 43769 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2023 at 08:01
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

^The new benchmark for determining whether a band should be on PA: "Are they cooler than the new Yes?"
LOL
Back to Top
twosteves View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 01 2007
Location: NYC/Rhinebeck
Status: Offline
Points: 4091 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote twosteves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2023 at 08:42
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

^The new benchmark for determining whether a band should be on PA: "Are they cooler than the new Yes?"
LOL


That would include nearly any  band -lyrically you can’t get much more insipid 😝LOL
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345 7>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.170 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.