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    Posted: May 16 2023 at 13:34
Anybody here French (or fluent enough in French) that can figure out for me whether or not founding members of the French folk band Malicorne, Gabriel Yacoub and Marie Yacoub, were brother and sister or husband and wife? 

I'm suspicious of anyone who declares one way or another without sounding or feeling definitive. 

If married, did they divorce--when and why? with or without offspring (children)?
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Edited by Sean Trane - May 16 2023 at 15:19
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


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Thanks, Hugues. I've seen this. There are enough references out there to question the veracity of this--places where they're called "brother and sister". Plus, the fact that they both got their professional start working with Alan Stivell leads suspicion to the possibility that they might have come to Alan together, as siblings--though it is completely possible that they came to the band already married. Gabriel was only 18 or, at the most, 19 when he was invited to join Alan's tour. 

Discogs only mentions them as "French folk duo."
Wikapedia never distinguishes their blood ties.

OK! Never mind! I finally found a definitive reference on the French version of Wikipédia: Marie was born "Marie Sauvet" in 1953 in Meudon (just east of Versailles) and "Elle a mariée à Gabriel Yacoub" which means the marriage has ended--apparently somewhere between 1976 and 1982. She continued to pursue a career in music from 1982 to 2008 as Marie Sauvet before doing some reunion gigs and concerts with Gabriel and Dan starting in 2004.  

Thanks anyways!

 
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This also confirms they are brother and sister:
"Malicorne are a French folk and folk rock band formed in September 1973[1] by Gabriel Yacoub, Marie Yacoub (now Marie Sauvet)..."
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You guys can find all types of excuses, including that RYM isn't trustworthy (That's debatable, but the RYM info is generally very meticulous, needing seven member approval votes for a change.) However, there is difference in Marie's date of birth between Wiki & RYM. Cute enough, their respective birthday are the 4th and 5th of February .Wink

But if you do a little more research, you will see she was born Sauvet and if she has recuperated her name in civil life  after the divorce from Yacoub (it's not an obligation in France or Belgium  >> see Stella Vander's case) - it's probably because Yacoub is very Jewish-sounding (a deformation of Jacob) as Gabriel's dad was from Lebanon, I understand. 


And from Gabriel's wiki page

1973 : l'expérimentation avec Pierre de Grenoble[modifier | modifier le code]

S'entourant de musiciens de talents (dont Dan Ar Braz), Gabriel Yacoub et son épouse d'alors Marie Sauvet enregistrent au printemps 1973 l'album expérimental Pierre de Grenoble par lequel le couple revisite le répertoire traditionnel7. Sorti en octobre 1973, le succès immédiat et inattendu de ce « coup d'essai » lance un renouveau des musiques traditionnelles en France2,8.
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People who shout are often wrong...

Maybe, in order to avoid more confusion, we should add that in France it was - and still is - not allowed between siblings to get married. Ermm

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

People who shout are often wrong...

Maybe, in order to avoid more confusion, we should add that in France it was - and still is - not allowed between siblings to get married. Ermm

Didn't your Censored president marry his mother?? Clown
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Hehehe... We're looking into that. Rumours are that... oh well, you know... Shocked
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Hehehe... We're looking into that. Rumours are that... oh well, you know... Shocked
(and, he's not my president)

Well, just north of you, the (not just ours, but throughout Europe) royals have been in-breeding for centuries.Evil Smile Clown
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