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Posted: May 18 2023 at 09:47

After a thread about Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin (The Big Three of pre-'80s Hard Rock / Heavy Metal),

I think it'll be quite interesting to have a look at other of the Hard / Heavy pre-'80s more or less big ones.

So, who are they and what are your fave pre-'80s albums of theirs?

My are:

Budgie - Never Turn Your Back... (1973)

Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond (1972)

Alice Cooper - School's Out ('72), Billion Dollar Babies ('73)

Golden Earring - Moontan (1973)

Groundhogs - Split (1971)

Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny (1976)

Scorpions - Lonesome Crow (1972)

The Stooges - Fun House (1970)

Uriah Heep - Look at Yourself (1971)

The Who - Quadrophenia (1973)

Edited by David_D - May 20 2023 at 04:46

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Posted: May 18 2023 at 11:28

Flower Travellin' Band - Satori, 1971

Jerusalem - St. 1972

Icecross - St. 1973

You should check out the Swedish band November as well. Three very nice heavy/progressive rock album from 1970, 1971 and 1972. I don't own them myself, or know them all that well. But heard enough to know that it's pretty great stuff.

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Posted: May 18 2023 at 12:02

Mountain - 1971

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Posted: May 18 2023 at 12:49

Unpopular opinion: IMO in the 70s heavy metal didn't really exist yet. At that point it was all still slightly beefier hard rock.

Also, I think the production techniques of that era weren't super well suited for heavy music. Great heavy productions, in which you could really feel that rock solid metal weight, started developing in the mid 80s. The sound of metal how it's recorded/produced today would show its true early form in the 90s IMAO.

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Posted: May 18 2023 at 12:59

Hrychu wrote:

Unpopular opinion: IMO in the 70s heavy metal didn't really exist yet. At that point it was all still slightly beefier hard rock.

You are not wrong. Smile

For a while in the 70s, they terms hard rock, heavy metal, heavy rock were interchangeable, used to describe the same thing.

It was I guess in the second half of the 70s that heavy metal began to shape up for real, with bands like Judas Priest, Motorhead, Rainbow and the rise of NWOBHM. Twin guitar playing of Judas Priest and Thin Lizzy will be a great influence on bands coming up in the 80s.

Also punk gave metal a boost as well.

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Posted: May 18 2023 at 13:11

What we consider heavy or metal will obviously change over the decades. But I'm not a big fan of this revisionist way of looking at our near history. Black Sabbath were heavy metal in 1970 and still is. It's the birth of a genre that has changed how it sounds and partially what it means. Just like everything anywhere always. The true origins remains the same nevertheless.

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Posted: May 18 2023 at 13:16

Rush - All their pre-80's albums
Aerosmith - Get Your Wings, Toys in the Attic, and Rocks
Alice Cooper - Love it to Death, Killer, and Billion Dollar Babies
Van Halen - s/t

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Posted: May 18 2023 at 13:17

Saperlipopette! wrote:

What we consider heavy or metal will obviously change over the decades. But I'm not a big fan of this revisionist way of looking at our near history. Black Sabbath were heavy metal in 1970 and still is. It's the birth of a genre that has changed how it sounds and partially what it means. Just like everything anywhere always. The true origins remains the same nevertheless.

true

Also when I say heavy metal, i mean the traditional kind. The genre has even had a revival in recent years, it's named NWOTHM (new wave of traditional heavy metal).

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Posted: May 18 2023 at 14:26

Atomic Rooster- Death Walks Behind You
Groundhogs- Split
Scorpions- Lonesome Crow
AC/DC - Powerage
Budgie - Never Turn Your Back On A Friend
Rainbow- Rising
Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies
Saxon - Denim & Leather
Motorhead- Overkill
The Pink Fairies - Kings Of Oblivion
MC5 - Kick Out The Jams

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Posted: May 18 2023 at 14:54

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Atomic Rooster- Death Walks Behind You
Groundhogs- Split
Scorpions- Lonesome Crow
AC/DC - Powerage
Budgie - Never Turn Your Back On A Friend
Rainbow- Rising
Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies
Saxon - Denim & Leather
Motorhead- Overkill
The Pink Fairies - Kings Of Oblivion
MC5 - Kick Out The Jams

Great list! Thumbs Up

Nice to see Powerage in the list, my favorite album with Bon Scott.

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Posted: May 18 2023 at 15:08

Some that not yet been mentioned.

Blue Öyster Cult - s/t
Montrose - s/t
Ted Nugent - s/t

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Posted: May 19 2023 at 04:58

My Hard Rock Top 20

1970: Atomic Rooster - Death Walks Behind You - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1_d8NXnIjs

1975: Bad Company - Straight Shooter - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1xb7txZK-E

1976: Blue Oyster Cult - Agents of Fortune - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aOKnEAcYzY

1976: Boston - Boston - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zDR5jmCXOg

1973: Budgie - Never Turn Your Back on a Friend - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt8o5dtNVyk

1972: Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR6MQgMdwCs

1973: Far Out - Nihonjin - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OhhN82dGqQ

1971: Flower Travellin' Band - Satori - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIjshrNAO6c

1970: Free - Fire and Water - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeS1OKrTG0s

1969: Golden Earring - Eight Miles High - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b5FsOAjLBA

1971: Hawkwind - In Search of Space - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHv5hqn5kGU

1982: Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E86PBf-6CsA

1973: Montrose - Montrose - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-8awr_6DKE

1980: Motorhead - Ace of Spades - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Kc9Fcm0Cw

1970: Mountain - Climbing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBQhJTXVqrQ

1976: Rainbow - Rising - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrJ0OCITw6g

1977: UFO - Lights Out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RhnoNLu6GY

1972: Uriah Heep - Demons and Wizards - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjTHfKjNI7g

1969: The Who - Tommy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txA_FXWX7Po

1972: Wishbone Ash - Argos - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wr8Z2HWA_8

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Posted: May 19 2023 at 09:09

Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1982: Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E86PBf-6CsA

That's pretty heavy, Paul, even we're not in the '80s (yet?). Smile

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Posted: May 19 2023 at 11:12

I agree about no "proper" Metal, it just partly changes its character over the years.

Edited by David_D - May 19 2023 at 11:27

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Posted: May 19 2023 at 11:26

Hrychu wrote:

Unpopular opinion: IMO in the 70s heavy metal didn't really exist yet. At that point it was all still slightly beefier hard rock.

What Black Sabbath played almost from the very beginning was stylistically seen different from Hard Rock.

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Posted: May 19 2023 at 12:57

David_D wrote:

Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1982: Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E86PBf-6CsA

That's pretty heavy, Paul, even we're not in the '80s (yet?). Smile

I know. It's more Heavy Metal than Hard Rock, but The Number of the Beast is such a classic album that I didn't want to leave it out. Smile

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Posted: May 19 2023 at 12:58

Cristi wrote:

....For a while in the 70s, they terms hard rock, heavy metal, heavy rock were interchangeable, used to describe the same thing.

It was I guess in the second half of the 70s that heavy metal began to shape up for real, with bands like Judas Priest, Motorhead, Rainbow and the rise of NWOBHM. .......

Now, I got your point, and it's a good one. Neverthereless, my impression is that the most common understanding of Heavy Metal today is as the style mainly invented by Black Sabbath, and with Judas Priest as the main founder of the genre.

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Posted: May 19 2023 at 13:02

Psychedelic Paul wrote:

David_D wrote:

Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1982: Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E86PBf-6CsA

That's pretty heavy, Paul, even we're not in the '80s (yet?). Smile

I know. It's more Heavy Metal than Hard Rock, but The Number of the Beast is such a classic album that I didn't want to leave it out. Smile

"pretty heavy" was actually meant as an admiration of your tastes here. Smile

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