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    Posted: May 11 2023 at 08:28

 The Big Three of the pre-'80s Hard Rock / Heavy Metal?
That would in my view, and alphabetical order, definitely be Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin, 
but anyway, what are your favourite pre-'80s albums of theirs?
My are (in chronological order):

Black Sabbath - Paranoid
                        - Master of Reality
                        - Vol. 4

Deep Purple - Deep Purple
                         - In Rock
                           - Fireball
                           - Made in Japan

Led Zeppelin - II
                            - IV
                            - Houses of the Holy


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what about making it Big 4 and have Uriah Heep in here as well? 
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The same, with Uriah Heep making it a Big 4, and possibly Jethro Tull, who were voted the best Heavy Metal band - beating Metallica - at the Grammy Awards. Geek
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

what about making it Big 4 and have Uriah Heep in here as well? 

no thanks
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

what about making it Big 4 and have Uriah Heep in here as well? 

no thanks

because Uriah Heep is not a relevant band for early heavy music, or why? Confused
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

because Uriah Heep is not a relevant band for early heavy music, or why? Confused

quality over quantity Wink
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

because Uriah Heep is not a relevant band for early heavy music, or why? Confused

quality over quantity Wink

that's not even funny. 
Uriah Heep is one of the best bands around, having released essential albums in every decade since their inception in 1969-70, still making great music even today, in fact they released an album this year. I can't believe you belittle them in this manner. 
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just follow the OP, please
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Rush
Deep Purple
Aerosmith
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Purple, Sabbath & Zep were always considered the big 3 when I was growing up

Black Sabbath
1a. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
1b. Sabotage
3. Black Sabbath (debut)

Deep Purple
1. Made In Japan
2. Machine Head
3. In Rock

Led Zeppelin
1. IV
2. Physical Graffiti
3. III

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

what about making it Big 4 and have Uriah Heep in here as well? 

Anyway, if it should be Big Four, I would consider The Who as the best candidate.
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I think BS, DP and LZ is a very fair big three, especially for the Prog Related lounge in which this topic resides -- it's the same three of which I would have thought of first. As a general classic "proggy" band list with at least three albums I like considerably, then I would include Atomic Rooster (but I would not expect it). I'm not that into Deep Purple generally, but do like the 60s stuff (even if a little too much covering imo, though I like those). With the oft called masterpiece Child in Time, I way prefer the earlier It's a Beautiful Day's Bombay Calling and the Vince Wallace renditions.

I'm choosing my favourite albums from the three regardless of if they are the best examples of hard rock/ heavy metal from the bands (to be more insightful and relevant is way above my pay grade), and I'm not doing lives, otherwise The Song Remains the Same would be listed.

With Black Sabbath my preferences tend to be chronological:
- Black Sabbath
- Paranoid
- Master of Reality

Deep Purple is aboiut the 60s for me
- Deep Purple
- Shades of Deep Purple
- The Book of Taliesyn

With Led Zeppelin, I love so much but Houses and Physical Graf to me are most loved. While in Through the Out Door often gets rated low, I love it, especially for "Carouselambra". In the words of Willie Dixon, and later sung by Jim Morrison, I guess I'm a Back Door Man, at least when it comes to some albums. I don't rate the fourth as highly as a great many, although I adore "Four Sticks", and like all of the B side really very much. "Rock and Roll" especially lowers the value of that album for me.

- Houses of the Holy
- Physical Graffiti
- In Through the Out Door
- II
- I
- III

- IV
- Presence

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If we also include metal, I'd say Judas Priest deserve a place here. I never deem Led Zeppelins as metal, BTW. They are quite something, but still hard rock IMO.

Deep Purple have some metallic edge, yet they are also hard rock in essence.

Black Sabbath should definitely be here.

I'm not sure about Iron Maiden... They have a couple of 70s stuff, but their prime was in the 80s.

I pretty much dislike JP, but if metal is also the case in this thread, they gotta be here.
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Atomic Rooster or Budgie would have been my next ones on the list after those 3.
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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

If we also include metal, I'd say Judas Priest deserve a place here. I never deem Led Zeppelins as metal, BTW. They are quite something, but still hard rock IMO.

Deep Purple have some metallic edge, yet they are also hard rock in essence.

Black Sabbath should definitely be here.

I'm not sure about Iron Maiden... They have a couple of 70s stuff, but their prime was in the 80s.

I pretty much dislike JP, but if metal is also the case in this thread, they gotta be here.

Sad Wings Of Destiny, Sin After Sin & Stained Class are certainly worthy of mention. Priest & Maiden I certainly consider the second wave after Sab/Zep/Purp. Rooster & Budgie were the same proto era.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

what about making it Big 4 and have Uriah Heep in here as well? 

Anyway, if it should be Big Four, I would consider The Who as the best candidate.

The Who were less influential in the world of hard 'n' heavy music than the others mentioned here. They have influenced punk and alternative music a lot more. 
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Atomic Rooster or Budgie would have been my next ones on the list after those 3.

definitely, also Blue Oyster Cult, UFO, Scorpions and Rainbow. 
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Rush
Deep Purple
Aerosmith

fair enough and interesting too  Smile


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

The Who were less influential in the world of hard 'n' heavy music than the others mentioned here. They have influenced punk and alternative music a lot more. 

Anyway, I might have got an idea for another thread. Wink
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