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kenethlevine
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Posted: May 06 2023 at 12:10 |
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definitely some of the early work by Japanese group Asturias could raise comparisons to Oldfield
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PhideauxFan
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Colin Masson.
Edited by PhideauxFan - May 06 2023 at 03:36 |
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moshkito
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Hi, I was thinking that Gordon Giltrap, fits here, and probably better than the two suggestions made that not everyone liked. I am not a "camparetist" and tend to look at things independent of suggestions, thoughts and ideas, so I can get a fresh ear to the piece of music, otherwise it all sounds the same to me. I was thinking things like Clearlight might deserve a mention, but its design is more "classical" to my ears, and not as "traditional" as MO makes use of his culture left and right and extends it tremendously to a very good effect. I would prefer that folks had not compared those folks to MO ... to me it lessens their ability. And that, for my thinking, is so top ten designed that it bothers me.
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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geekfreak
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I’ve have these albums:
Rare And Reworked - The Music Of Mike Oldfield PRE-ORDER by The Tubular All Stars Mike Oldfield - Reimagined For Piano PRE-ORDER by Robin A. Smith Tubular Bells - Reimagined - 50th Anniversary Recording by Robin A. Smith The Ringmaster Part One by robert reed The Ringmaster Part Two by robert reed |
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Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
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richardh
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I don't want to be too critical of Reed as I do like Magenta a lot but his solo stuff feels like an AI has been tasked with creating new music by Oldfield. Oldfield was a one off. Just that 'metal' section in Hergest Ridge alone demonstrates why its pointless to try and imitate the great man. That is ridiculous yet inspired at the same time. Its the very epitome of progressive music! I don't hear anything remotely interesting in Rob's stuff. Certainly he has the chops but that's it IMO
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PhideauxFan
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I've got a CD of Colin Masson. I also know another album with a ship on the artwork. It is good, but as I am not a big fan of Mike Oldfield, it is not essential for me.
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runciblemoon
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Agreed, but I think that's why I've come to appreciate what Reed's doing on those albums. Why should this style of composition be the sole purview of one composer? Why can't other musicians try their hand at it?
That's interesting, because I personally feel like it's a much tighter disparity than you're giving Reed credit for. Not only does he have the tones and textures down pat, but the compositions themselves are just as full of character and detail and interesting themes as Oldfield's best IMO. The Reed albums are copycats, no doubt, but I don't detect anything inherently inferior about them when compared in a vaccuum. They simply lack the weight of history and the kudos that comes with being the progenitor of the particular style in which they are written and recorded.
It would be fascinating to conduct an experiment with, say, 100 people who are intimately familar with Oldfield's classic albums but haven't heard either Return to Ommadawn or Sancturary. You could play them both albums and ask them to decide which was by Oldfield and which was by another musician. I could be wrong, but I feel like the results would be a pretty even split. Ultimately, I get why Rob's solo albums can be offputting and not everyone's cup of tea, but Return to Ommadawn is looking increasingly likely to be Oldfield's last forary into Tubular Bells style composition, so I'd much rather have the ocassional convincing forgery courtesy of Rob Reed to enjoy than no new music at all in that vein. |
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richardh
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Oldfield's music (first 4 mainly) represented a new form of classical music so its hard to touch. I just can't go from Ommadawn to Rob's stuff and not comprehend a major difference. I then realised how far apart they are when Oldfield released the lovely Return To Ommadawn, nowhere near his most inspired work but still way above any 'imitators' imo
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runciblemoon
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I had similar struggles when I first encountered Rob's Oldfield-inspired solo work - almost a musical equivalent of the "uncanny valley" effect. But after months of vacillation I thought "what the hell" the other day and bought the first Sanctuary album, and I have to say I've really really warmed to it. Yes, it is a very conscious attempt to create new music in the exact style of classic Oldfield albums, so if you place a high value on originality it's not going to impress you, but if you're just jonesing for more music in that very idiosyncratic style it is by far the best example I've ever come across. It's truly impressive in its meticulous recreation of that sound and the quality of the compositions themselves, which I think are absolutely on a par with some of Oldfield's best. It's like opening a door on a parallel world where Oldfield somehow cranked out several more albums between Ommadawn and Incantations!
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geekfreak
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And me too |
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Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake."
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Psychedelic Paul
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Hola Amigos! How about Spanish band Fadalack for a Live tribute to Ommadawn?
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edefakiel
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For a one man band I'm really into Ben Craven: https://bencraven.bandcamp.com/album/monsters-from-the-id
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Psychedelic Paul
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Also, Pierre Moerlen.
1979: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Downwind - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kiBGVj7_hI9pitFBGgjZayc9uqaDZfovc
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Also, Ken Baird. https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=976
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - May 02 2023 at 08:28 |
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richardh
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Never heard of Colin Masson but having a listen to the debut as I type and the first few minutes are certainly very alluring. The MO connection is very obvious and remarkably he seems able to play the electric guitar in the same style. That is not an easy thing to do! |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Here's another album for Oldfield fans by Rob Reed (of Magenta fame) - one of the unsung heroes of prog - who sounds more like Mike Oldfield here than Mike Oldfield does himself.
2014: Robert Reed - Sanctuary - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEXFN-SNu_rgnMfkyMtR1OzwTemPOZS9s
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Frets N Worries
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He's only got about 50 monthly on Spotify
His debut is his best (in my opinion), but the others are still amazing https://open.spotify.com/album/6CxFJ27zvQi28OvHcFJ7zV?si=lBbB1AqCTCybz9cpLZCkeQ
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Frets N Worries
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For those of you who like me, are big MO fans, may I recommend Colin Masson, I heard about him on here, and I looked him up, great stuff, highly recommend.
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