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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Rick Wakeman goes gyroscopic and kaleidoscopic  (although slightly off-topic) with his towering  White Rock....


More like White Cheddar with that towering slice of kitschy cheese, , but I guess that's all part of the fun.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Rick Wakeman goes gyroscopic and kaleidoscopic  (although slightly off-topic) with his towering  White Rock....


More like White Cheddar with that towering slice of kitschy cheese, , but I guess that's all part of the fun.
Yes, it's a case of chalk and cheese regarding our dissimilar tastes in prog, but it wouldn't be half as much fun if we all liked the same music. Wink
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Rick Wakeman goes gyroscopic and kaleidoscopic  (although slightly off-topic) with his towering  White Rock....


More like White Cheddar with that towering slice of kitschy cheese, , but I guess that's all part of the fun.

Yes, it's a case of chalk and cheese regarding our dissimilar tastes in prog, but it wouldn't be half as much fun if we all liked the same music. Wink


I didn't say I didn't enjoy it, I rather did in a somewhat ironic manner. Cheesy can be quite entertaining. I happen to be a cheese connoisseur (been moving Vegan though), and have been called cheesy myself due to my cheesy attempts at humour, but I am more chalky by nature, or maybe more Chocky than Chuck E. Cheese.

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Focusing on negativity isn't normally my cup of tea, but talking about Amon Düül II (big fan here), the two end 60s/early 70s albums I have heard of Amon Düül (without the number II) were something of a torture to listen to. As far as I know, Amon Düül II was the subgroup of the collective that wanted to focus properly on music, the Amon Düül albums were done by those left behind, and they sound like that.

Other than that, I haven't got anything out of any ELO I've ever heard, but this is already pretty much where outright negativity ends when it comes to artists listed as prog on PA.


I don't think highly of Amon Düül too while very much liking Amon Düül II.

As for ELO, I never really got into it either although I have enjoyed music by ELO. It's one I have not greatly explored.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Rick Wakeman goes gyroscopic and kaleidoscopic  (although slightly off-topic) with his towering  White Rock....


More like White Cheddar with that towering slice of kitschy cheese, , but I guess that's all part of the fun.

Yes, it's a case of chalk and cheese regarding our dissimilar tastes in prog, but it wouldn't be half as much fun if we all liked the same music. Wink


I didn't say I didn't enjoy it, I rather did in a somewhat ironic manner. Cheesy can be quite entertaining. I happen to be a cheese connoisseur (been moving Vegan though), and have been called cheesy myself due to my cheesy attempts at humour, but I am more chalky by nature, or maybe more Chocky than Chuck E. Cheese.
At least my dislike of some of your favourite Avant Prog artists provided the inspiration for a poll. Smile
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

I'm 55 next month Cristi and I can tell you that Rush enhanced my teenage years immeasurably. Of course Rush aren't 'bubble gum prog', but we all need the lighter end of the spectrum to serve its valuable purpose. I wasn't the sort of kid you could have just thrown Pawn Hearts at and expected to lap it up, without small stepping stones having been laid down first... Smile

I'd say, quite natural for the Neo-Prog generation. Tongue
After second thought, with Geddy Lee vocals, it's not that natural.

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Rick Wakeman goes gyroscopic and kaleidoscopic  (although slightly off-topic) with his towering  White Rock....


More like White Cheddar with that towering slice of kitschy cheese, , but I guess that's all part of the fun.

Yes, it's a case of chalk and cheese regarding our dissimilar tastes in prog, but it wouldn't be half as much fun if we all liked the same music. Wink


I didn't say I didn't enjoy it, I rather did in a somewhat ironic manner. Cheesy can be quite entertaining. I happen to be a cheese connoisseur (been moving Vegan though), and have been called cheesy myself due to my cheesy attempts at humour, but I am more chalky by nature, or maybe more Chocky than Chuck E. Cheese.

At least my dislike of some of your favourite Avant Prog artists provided the inspiration for a poll. Smile


No complaints, and, I know I shared this before, indeed your dislike of Swans provided the inspiration for a personal obsession as I had tried to explore it to try to convince you that there was music you would enjoy and that you would come to reassess the band. That didn't work out very well with you, but it turned this ugly duckling (or peacock more aptly) into a major Swans-head. I had heard couple of Swans albums years before, and really likes a few songs, but I had not deeply explored the discography before then.

Trying to turn people onto music has really turned me onto music a number of times whether it works on others or not. I also found a Mostly Autumn track I liked considerably recently, and I had opted to explore it more due to your loyalty to the discography. It was Candle to the Sky. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLbh-8pj-U

I'm often inspired by the people at PA to more deeply explore music, be it in my wheelhouse or not as the joy of this place is having something of the feeling of a communal exercise even if one doesn't ultimately share the same experience.

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Originally posted by Sem__ Sem__ wrote:

I really can't stand Geddy Lee's vocals.

Geddy Lee's high-pitched wailing is an acquired taste, just like the similar tight-trousered singers with Budgie and Pavlov's Dog, who both sound like they've inhaled a balloonful of helium before approaching the microphone. Smile

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Can-I don't get it, dull as dishwater

The first two Soft Machine albums-a load of nonsense; 
( it is when the jazz influence happened later that they really improved immensely)

Neu! -I've tried, but they do nothing for me

       


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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Other than that, I haven't got anything out of any ELO I've ever heard, but this is already pretty much where outright negativity ends when it comes to artists listed as prog on PA.

Did you ever try their first album and only one with Roy Wood? Quite unlike any of the others... Personally, I like the first 4 albums, but after that, it's pure pop.

I know their second and the fourth if I'm not mistaken (and some later pop stuff), so I'm not very optimistic, but it may well be I haven't heard anything from the first album.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Yes, it's a case of chalk and cheese regarding our dissimilar tastes in prog, but it wouldn't be half as much fun if we all liked the same music. Wink
I like cheese. Earth would be boring if we all liked the same cheese.
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No dislike. 

At most, groups that I am not enthusiastic about, that I consider uninspired - groups that I do not appreciate at all.

I may like groups (or albums) that I dont consider particularly good. 

Art is an aesthetic fact. I can enjoy a lot watching a film that I consider to be a B-movie (a guilty pleasure). In the same way, I can enjoy very little, feel uninspired by music that I consider to be very beautiful, music of great quality (then I call it academic music, good for the critics' prize).

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Rick Wakeman solo boring?

Definitely not Six Wives in my view, and neither No Earthly Connection. 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Sem__ Sem__ wrote:

I really can't stand Geddy Lee's vocals.

Geddy Lee's high-pitched wailing is an acquired taste, just like the similar tight-trousered singers with Budgie and Pavlov's Dog, who both sound like they've inhaled a balloonful of helium before approaching the microphone. Smile



I guess that's true... I used to not like Jon Anderson vocals, which was though with all the great albums he was present in. LOL
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Focusing on negativity isn't normally my cup of tea, but talking about Amon Düül II (big fan here), the two end 60s/early 70s albums I have heard of Amon Düül (without the number II) were something of a torture to listen to. As far as I know, Amon Düül II was the subgroup of the collective that wanted to focus properly on music, the Amon Düül albums were done by those left behind, and they sound like that.
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I never thought of AD2 as weird, or strange. Their first album (PD) was a very obvious attack on something at the commune ... you party, you get stoned (things gonna get weird!) and then folks do ... whatever. And PD is sort of a suggestion that the end result of those musical excursions that we heard from the regular AD, was the kind of thing that eventually ended up in drugs, sex and etc, etc ... well, I can say that the excursions of the drum circles in Eugene in the days of the GD, usually ended up in veritable orgies, although not necessarily right out in the open, but in the commune? The women are free and it is a reckless humpty dumpy!

That AD2 wanted to focus on more than just "nothing" and then get stoned, and have sex, is probably the main reason why they came about ... there is nothing strange, or weird, or off putting in that, even if the way it was done, was dictated by circumstances. And they showed in YETI that they meant it right ... and put out a magnanimous album!

Is it progressive? I consider it more experimental than progressive, although the difference between experimental and progressive lies in how the experiments get "used" up in the music itself, but if you listen to YETI, saying that the "improvisations" don't fit, means the music is not for you, and their next album, has even more and better improvisations that really blow out the scale on what an improvisation is!

It's an experience, and as soon as you can put your mind in that space, things kinda light up ... and are more enjoyable than just songs.

The only thing I tend to "dislike", and that's a joke around here, is things like 10CC ... love them dearly, but it's all pop songs done progressively! And fun as heck, although hearing about Mindy is not fun ... but what a song! After that? My biggest dislike is Metalisheepcacadip!
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Geddy Lee's high-pitched wailing is an acquired taste, just like the similar tight-trousered singers with Budgie and Pavlov's Dog, who both sound like they've inhaled a balloonful of helium before approaching the microphone. Smile
 
Surely anyone who grow up during the '70s with such groups as Led Zeppelin would consider high-pitched vocals as par for the course.
 

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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Geddy Lee's high-pitched wailing is an acquired taste, just like the similar tight-trousered singers with Budgie and Pavlov's Dog, who both sound like they've inhaled a balloonful of helium before approaching the microphone. Smile
 
Surely anyone who grow up during the '70s with such groups as Led Zeppelin would consider high-pitched vocals as par for the course.
 

Yes, time hasn't stood still for me as I've been a fan of Rush ever since hearing Spirit of Radio on the radio in the eighties. I've bought seven Rush albums since joining ProgArchives as well as three albums by Budgie and I'm salivating at the thought of one day owning an album by Pavlov's Dog too. Woof! Smile
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Can-I don't get it, dull as dishwater

The first two Soft Machine albums-a load of nonsense; 
( it is when the jazz influence happened later that they really improved immensely)

Neu! -I've tried, but they do nothing for me


I would appreciate your Candour, but I Can't hear you, I'm listening to Can's "Mother Sky" (I like to groove while washing dishes to this, but then my dishwater is far from dull), Soft Machine's "Hibou Anemone and Bear" (which I find terrific in its jazzy way), and Neu!'s "Hallogallo" (which I really dig).

To each his own of course.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Can-I don't get it, dull as dishwater

The first two Soft Machine albums-a load of nonsense; 
( it is when the jazz influence happened later that they really improved immensely)

Neu! -I've tried, but they do nothing for me


I would appreciate your Candour, but I Can't hear you, I'm listening to Can's "Mother Sky" (I like to groove while washing dishes to this, but then my dishwater is far from dull), Soft Machine's "Hibou Anemone and Bear" (which I find terrific in its jazzy way), and Neu!'s "Hallogallo" (which I really dig).

To each his own of course.
And how about Can in genuine Jazzrock-fusion-mode?


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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Can-I don't get it, dull as dishwater

The first two Soft Machine albums-a load of nonsense; 
( it is when the jazz influence happened later that they really improved immensely)

Neu! -I've tried, but they do nothing for me


I would appreciate your Candour, but I Can't hear you, I'm listening to Can's "Mother Sky" (I like to groove while washing dishes to this, but then my dishwater is far from dull), Soft Machine's "Hibou Anemone and Bear" (which I find terrific in its jazzy way), and Neu!'s "Hallogallo" (which I really dig).

To each his own of course.
And how about Can in genuine Jazzrock-fusion-mode?




If that's as dull as Doug's dishwater, then I want to party in his sink. I guess my hot tub will have to do (when I get one that is).
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