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I didn't know Rush were considered a prog band until I joined ProgArchives. I'd always assumed they were Hard Rock, but that was before I discovered the "Heavy Prog" sub-genre. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I didn't know Rush were considered a prog band until I joined ProgArchives. I'd always assumed they were Hard Rock, but that was before I discovered the "Heavy Prog" sub-genre. Smile

I'll be honest, I was in my late 20's before I even understood the concept of 'Progressive' music; no-one had ever explained it to me until I met a guy at work who was quite literally nuts about the genre. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2023 at 14:15
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I get it, nevertheless there is a big difference between saying "I dislike or can't stand Rush" and calling Rush "bubble-gum prog".  🤦‍♂️Confused


I'm 55 next month Cristi and I can tell you that Rush enhanced my teenage years immeasurably. Of course Rush aren't 'bubble gum prog', but we all need the lighter end of the spectrum to serve its valuable purpose. I wasn't the sort of kid you could have just thrown Pawn Hearts at and expected to lap it up, without small stepping stones having been laid down first... Smile


I'm used to people using hyperbole or stretching and adapting terms in rather ludicrous ways, but I get this. It does have a big appeal to adolescents. Bubble gum music tends to be catchy, have hooks, be upbeat, have a certain naivety and sincerity in the lyrics, and I think Rush has all of that. I was big on Rush in my early teens. I think in the 80s and into the 90s a lot of their music had this kind of upbeat bubblegum quality and the music videos reinforced that as they adopted kiddy attributes. There's something very childhoodish and childlike to Rush, sometimes in their themes and often in the presentation. That's not a bad thing to me. Now I like a lot of music influenced by true bubblegum music, so it's not so much of a pejorative term to me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2023 at 14:54

After having reading again in Edward Macan's Rocking the Classics, I may have more respect for The Beatles' influence 
on the evolvement of the Progressive Rock style.







Edited by David_D - April 21 2023 at 16:44
                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I get it, nevertheless there is a big difference between saying "I dislike or can't stand Rush" and calling Rush "bubble-gum prog".  🤦‍♂️Confused


I'm 55 next month Cristi and I can tell you that Rush enhanced my teenage years immeasurably. Of course Rush aren't 'bubble gum prog', but we all need the lighter end of the spectrum to serve its valuable purpose. I wasn't the sort of kid you could have just thrown Pawn Hearts at and expected to lap it up, without small stepping stones having been laid down first... Smile


I'm used to people using hyperbole or stretching and adapting terms in rather ludicrous ways, but I get this. It does have a big appeal to adolescents. Bubble gum music tends to be catchy, have hooks, be upbeat, have a certain naivety and sincerity in the lyrics, and I think Rush has all of that. I was big on Rush in my early teens. I think in the 80s and into the 90s a lot of their music had this kind of upbeat bubblegum quality and the music videos reinforced that as they adopted kiddy attributes. There's something very childhoodish and childlike to Rush, sometimes in their themes and often in the presentation. That's not a bad thing to me. Now I like a lot of music influenced by true bubblegum music, so it's not so much of a pejorative term to me.

where's Jose when you need him?! Geek
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

I'm 55 next month Cristi and I can tell you that Rush enhanced my teenage years immeasurably. Of course Rush aren't 'bubble gum prog', but we all need the lighter end of the spectrum to serve its valuable purpose. I wasn't the sort of kid you could have just thrown Pawn Hearts at and expected to lap it up, without small stepping stones having been laid down first... Smile

I'd say, quite natural for the Neo-Prog generation. Tongue

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I get it, nevertheless there is a big difference between saying "I dislike or can't stand Rush" and calling Rush "bubble-gum prog".  🤦‍♂️Confused


I'm 55 next month Cristi and I can tell you that Rush enhanced my teenage years immeasurably. Of course Rush aren't 'bubble gum prog', but we all need the lighter end of the spectrum to serve its valuable purpose. I wasn't the sort of kid you could have just thrown Pawn Hearts at and expected to lap it up, without small stepping stones having been laid down first... Smile


I'm used to people using hyperbole or stretching and adapting terms in rather ludicrous ways, but I get this. It does have a big appeal to adolescents. Bubble gum music tends to be catchy, have hooks, be upbeat, have a certain naivety and sincerity in the lyrics, and I think Rush has all of that. I was big on Rush in my early teens. I think in the 80s and into the 90s a lot of their music had this kind of upbeat bubblegum quality and the music videos reinforced that as they adopted kiddy attributes. There's something very childhoodish and childlike to Rush, sometimes in their themes and often in the presentation. That's not a bad thing to me. Now I like a lot of music influenced by true bubblegum music, so it's not so much of a pejorative term to me.


where's Jose when you need him?! Geek


He's currently under treatment in a room being forced to viddy and listen to the 1968 Yellow Submarine animated film which was inspired by The Beatles.



He didn't need aversion therapy for that. They should have played a Rush music video instead for "But it's not fair. It's not fair I should feel ill when I hear and see lovely, lovely Geddy Lee."
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I get it, nevertheless there is a big difference between saying "I dislike or can't stand Rush" and calling Rush "bubble-gum prog".  🤦‍♂️Confused


I'm 55 next month Cristi and I can tell you that Rush enhanced my teenage years immeasurably. Of course Rush aren't 'bubble gum prog', but we all need the lighter end of the spectrum to serve its valuable purpose. I wasn't the sort of kid you could have just thrown Pawn Hearts at and expected to lap it up, without small stepping stones having been laid down first... Smile


I'm used to people using hyperbole or stretching and adapting terms in rather ludicrous ways, but I get this. It does have a big appeal to adolescents. Bubble gum music tends to be catchy, have hooks, be upbeat, have a certain naivety and sincerity in the lyrics, and I think Rush has all of that. I was big on Rush in my early teens. I think in the 80s and into the 90s a lot of their music had this kind of upbeat bubblegum quality and the music videos reinforced that as they adopted kiddy attributes. There's something very childhoodish and childlike to Rush, sometimes in their themes and often in the presentation. That's not a bad thing to me. Now I like a lot of music influenced by true bubblegum music, so it's not so much of a pejorative term to me.

where's Jose when you need him?! Geek

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Thanks guys.....I was feeling a bit lonely today, much love and feel betta' now!! 
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A few that come to mind...
Magma~ WTH is that krapp!! Even The Daily Doug was like WTH!!
Zappa~ Comedic relief music
Wakeman Solo~ boring
Ayreon~ boring
Gong~ boring

I'm a big CAN fan so weird is in my wheelhouse, but I don't like much of other weird stuff.





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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Thanks guys.....I was feeling a bit lonely today, much love and feel betta' now!! 


I Geddy up, I Geddy down, but it's always nice to geddy on my high horse, dig in my spurs, yell "GeddyUp" and Rush off with the PA posse.

As for me, I will stop being some yellowbelly and shoot out some names.

Amon Dull Too: Now I like Amon Düül II as much as the next hombre, more so probably, but Amon Dull Too ain't she sharpest tool in the Shredded Wheat cereal box if you know what I mean. Same for the Jethro Tull offshoot, Jeffro Dull whose Aquadung album really stunk, and don't get me started on Thick as a Really Thick Person that Is so Thick That He Should Be Called Mr. Thicky the Very Dull and Thickheaded Thicky.
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That's the perfect name for a band!

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Focusing on negativity isn't normally my cup of tea, but talking about Amon Düül II (big fan here), the two end 60s/early 70s albums I have heard of Amon Düül (without the number II) were something of a torture to listen to. As far as I know, Amon Düül II was the subgroup of the collective that wanted to focus properly on music, the Amon Düül albums were done by those left behind, and they sound like that.

Other than that, I haven't got anything out of any ELO I've ever heard, but this is already pretty much where outright negativity ends when it comes to artists listed as prog on PA.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Other than that, I haven't got anything out of any ELO I've ever heard, but this is already pretty much where outright negativity ends when it comes to artists listed as prog on PA.

No ELO/Moody Blues for me, either.
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I really can't stand Geddy lee's vocals.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Wakeman Solo~ boring

Hey, you have to move past Myths and Legends, bud! It gets better. Wink
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I'm very hit or miss when it comes to prog. I prefer the 1970s overwhelmingly, and a woman on vocals, unless it's a band like Pink Floyd, Genesis - bands I loved before ever knowing the term "prog-rock". I felt the same about Rush, except I saw them in concert - alone! But this was over 20 years ago, but I never listen to them anymore, and I think Geddy is a major reason why. Led Zeppelin will probably always be in my Top 5 bands, but his voice (and Terry Reid, etc) must be a little repelling, since I tend to NEXT those songs.

I tried listening to 'Tarkus' twice, but I guess I need melody, which might be another reason I turn to the bands with the ladies on vocals -- Curved Air, Illusion, Carol of Harvest, etc..

Lately, I've been listening to a lot of progressive soul from the 70s.. Psychedelic Soul.. "Any Sub-Genre You Like"
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Other than that, I haven't got anything out of any ELO I've ever heard, but this is already pretty much where outright negativity ends when it comes to artists listed as prog on PA.

Did you ever try their first album and only one with Roy Wood? Quite unlike any of the others... Personally, I like the first 4 albums, but after that, it's pure pop.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Wakeman Solo~ boring


Hey, you have to move past Myths and Legends, bud! It gets better. Wink

Mi Bro!!! I’ve tried and just does not click…..
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Rick Wakeman goes gyroscopic and kaleidoscopic  (although slightly off-topic) with his towering  White Rock. Clap



Edited by Psychedelic Paul - April 22 2023 at 13:48
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