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How about some Black Bubblegum?
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I could never get into Art Zoyd.
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Not a prog band but I hate, HATE Daughters.

Now for prog bands, maybe Pallas, I never really felt compelled to listen to them further after listening to The Sentinel.
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Originally posted by Dapper~Blueberries Dapper~Blueberries wrote:

Not a prog band but I hate, HATE Daughters.

Now for prog bands, maybe Pallas, I never really felt compelled to listen to them further after listening to The Sentinel.

For many years, this site had an Admin who maintained that 'The Sentinel' was the worst prog album ever made.. LOL
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

For many years, this site had an Admin who maintained that 'The Sentinel' was the worst prog album ever made.. LOL

LOL
Who was it, I don't remember...
The Pallas follow up album is much worse than the debut. LOL
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

I agree it's getting old. This is not bubble gum music and it sounds great on vinyl.

Btw, I agree at least about the vinyl part. Big smile





Edited by David_D - April 21 2023 at 05:05
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I'm surprised it's taken this long to get posted.  I can't stand Rush.  'Bubble gum' prog.
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Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

I'm surprised it's taken this long to get posted.  I can't stand Rush.  'Bubble gum' prog.

are you serious or just baiting? Confused
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:


I find it weird that someone criticizes DB for using black and PR musicians and such, when the idea was to NOT SOUND like everyone else ... and we're criticizing his choices
I'm doing the exact opposite and actually defending him, but maybe you're thinking about someone else.


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

I'm surprised it's taken this long to get posted.  I can't stand Rush.  'Bubble gum' prog.

are you serious or just baiting? Confused

think he's being serious mate... I know it's hard to believe, but there are a few individuals out there who have never taken to Rush (arguably still my favourite band after all these years)... I think he'd get on well with the Baldies.. Big smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


LOL
Who was it, I don't remember...
The Pallas follow up album is much worse than the debut. LOL

Jim Garten... LOL
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

I'm surprised it's taken this long to get posted.  I can't stand Rush.  'Bubble gum' prog.

are you serious or just baiting? Confused

think he's being serious mate... I know it's hard to believe, but there are a few individuals out there who have never taken to Rush (arguably still my favourite band after all these years)... I think he'd get on well with the Baldies.. Big smile

maybe not quite so few Wink
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Originally posted by VultureCulture07 VultureCulture07 wrote:


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I'm not trying to deny or challenge their importance and impact in the world of music. I think my post was an immature post, I was bored and thought that this would be funny. As many have pointed out I definitely have to a certain extent disrespected the art.
 


Hi,

I don't know I would say "immature" as much as I might suggest that "historically", it is lacking, but that is my usual perspective since I have been at this for almost 60 years, and without the history, half the music is a bit of fluff when shown somewhere else, or compared to something else with a large time span in between them.

But we have to be careful, since the 20th century was about debunking a lot of musical theories and PA should add Stravinsky for his efforts ... I guess we'll have to call it symphonic prog ...

DB was very much influenced by the style of the Brecht/Weill scene, and he even went out and did BAAL, which everyone disliked, and is actually one of the best versions of it you will ever hear, but it's not rock music, and this drives folks in rock boards, crazy! Why is he wasting his time on such crap, kind of thing. It's not crap ... or it would not have survived and be remembered many years later, and I think that we should acknowledge that point a bit more, instead of simply thinking of preferences --- although I will say that it is my experience to feel that coming from a very strong artistic background!

In the Edgar Froese book, there is a chapter on DB ... and the Producer had a session arranged and everyone set to go, except DB was still plunking on the piano ... and finally the Producer said ... everyone go home. David has not found his voice, yet for this piece. It tells you that what these folks are doing is not just a stupid lyric, and that something else has to be added to it, to make it worth its nature, and folks like DB were sensitive to that right from the start .... in fact, I think he learned that from his early folk days.

The commerciality of it all, makes it very difficult for everyone to know/understand, and find their side on the artistic value of it all, and that is ditched in favor of "favorites" and "likes" and "dislikes" ... and this is the sad side of what you can see on many posts on music boards ... and there are many artists that say basically the same thing, even if they won't in words!
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

I'm surprised it's taken this long to get posted.  I can't stand Rush.  'Bubble gum' prog.

are you serious or just baiting? Confused

think he's being serious mate... I know it's hard to believe, but there are a few individuals out there who have never taken to Rush (arguably still my favourite band after all these years)... I think he'd get on well with the Baldies.. Big smile

I get it, nevertheless there is a big difference between saying "I dislike or can't stand Rush" and calling Rush "bubble-gum prog".  🤦‍♂️Confused
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A bit off topic, but for those who can be fond of both Zappa and The Beatles, I'd like to recommend Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel's 
Love's a Primadonna (1976). An album which has had up and downs in my appreciation of it, but now we're good, or maybe even 
very good, friends again. Thumbs Up
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Most of Prog Metal would be in my list, although there are a few bands like Liquid Tension Experiment, Special Providence, Symphony X, and Dream Theater that I can listen to in small doses.

But when it crosses over to Tech/Extreme Prog Metal, I run screaming from the room, hands over my ears. It's like fingernails on a blackboard -- well into the realm of "hatred" for me. But obviously not everyone has the same reaction, and that's OK. Whatever floats your boat.
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I would have once replied "Rush!," but upon listening to their catalog more intently, I realize that they evolved beyond the AM radio hits I've grown to dislike and actually created some quality prog.  Daily Doug show did a very fine job of analyzing their growth. 

I'm not terribly fond of Dream Theater, they seem to noodle around in meaningless, overly-long solos just for the heck of it.  Sad, as they are some of the best prog instrumentalists around! 

Otherwise, I'm fine with nearly all prog.  Some is great, some not so good, but honest musical expression is always to be admired.
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Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

But when it crosses over to Tech/Extreme Prog Metal, I run screaming from the room, hands over my ears.

I'm very much the same.

Even when I listened to a lot more Prog Metal than I do these days, I always struggled with a lot of the Tech/ Extreme stuff.. I could cope with the more accessible end of Zero Hour and actually really liked 'Specs Of Pictures Burnt Beyond' but back when I joined this site, some were raving about the Spiral Architect album, but that was simply too much for me.  Likewise, vocals have always been really important for me and as such, I REALLY had to be into a bands music to be able to put up with growling.

These days, I'm much more mainstream in my tastes... I can't really explain why; I'm just happier listening to Camel, I guess... 
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

I would have once replied "Rush!," but upon listening to their catalog more intently, I realize that they evolved beyond the AM radio hits I've grown to dislike and actually created some quality prog.  Daily Doug show did a very fine job of analyzing their growth. 

Whatever forum members think of the merits (or otherwise) of Rush, I always think it worth pointing out that if it hadn't have been for them and an older friend who lent me some more accessible Genesis, then I may well have stayed forever in the Zep/Purple/Sabbath camp I was ensconced in... and I really don't think I'd be alone in saying this... Smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I get it, nevertheless there is a big difference between saying "I dislike or can't stand Rush" and calling Rush "bubble-gum prog".  🤦‍♂️Confused

I'm 55 next month Cristi and I can tell you that Rush enhanced my teenage years immeasurably. Of course Rush aren't 'bubble gum prog', but we all need the lighter end of the spectrum to serve its valuable purpose. I wasn't the sort of kid you could have just thrown Pawn Hearts at and expected to lap it up, without small stepping stones having been laid down first... Smile
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