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    Posted: March 26 2023 at 18:43
I'm looking for some bands / albums / songs with the following characteristics:

Instrumental
Guitar heavy but not necessarily metal
Keyboards an important element
Complex rhythms 
Composed themes rather than jams

a la YYZ or La Villa Strangiato

Developing a band project and trying to find recordings to use as reference mixes. 
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French band 1980 comes to mind, CD from '07, hard to find, mine is ... somewhere Cry  --
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Just recently, I started a thread titled "Little Masterpieces" in which YYZ was one of the examples.
 
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Look through the catalogs of Djam Karet and Ovrfwrd. DK has been around for nearly 40 years with a diverse catalog on tunes.

This one might fit the bill.



Ovrfwrd is a newer band with 5 albums.



Also look into aome jazz rock fusion that's more on the rock side, such as the Fire Merchants formed by Brand X guitarist John Goodsall and Genesis touring drummer Chester Thompson.
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Also look into some jazz rock fusion that's more on the rock side, such as the Fire Merchants formed by Brand X guitarist John Goodsall and Genesis touring drummer Chester Thompson.
 
... or some Mahavishnu Orchestra, for example, Birds of Fire:
 
 
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Not necessarily metal... but are you OK if it is metal? I can think of the instrumental Dream Theater songs, and their spin-off Liquid Tension Experiment. I particularly love The Ytse Jam and Stream of Consiousness from DT, and Paradigm Shift, Acid Rain, and Another Dimension from LTE.
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Soft Machine's Bundles album with Allan Holdsworth maybe.
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Nova Collective, every song off their one album.
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What about black midi, for example, John L?
 
 
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The Nova Collective suggestion reminds me that Haken release instrumental versions of their albums.



Edited by mathman0806 - March 27 2023 at 07:07
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Dream Theater's Black Clouds & Silver Linings special edition also includes a 3rd disc with the full album in instrumental version.
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Offworld (Belgium) (psychedelic space-rock/metal).
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You might like to explore the two Bozzio - Levin - Stevens albums:

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Thanks everyone, this will give me plenty of material to use. 

If you've ever done mixing and recording, it's helpful to have reference tracks to compare the overall sound. 

I do like metal, and this project skirts on the edge. I'll enjoy listening to all of these artists regardless.

Again, thank you.
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

You might like to explore the two Bozzio - Levin - Stevens albums:
Fully agree, both great instrumental albums!
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Zappa for sure. Many of his instrumental songs/albums fit your criteria. Here is one of my favorites by him.
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You may like Kong from Amsterdam. They're instrumental, guitar riff oriented, and heavy and do some fun things with electronics (I know that wasn't asked for but it may make up for the mostly missing keyboards).
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A tune I just remembered from 20 years ago. Not a complex riff but a good heavy one, and a good mix IMO. Maximum Indifference is the band’s name.



Edited by HolyMoly - March 27 2023 at 16:34
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Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Dream Theater's Black Clouds & Silver Linings special edition also includes a 3rd disc with the full album in instrumental version.


I remember listeing to it a few times, until I noticed that, for some reason, they didn't only leave out the vocals, but also the guitar solos (not all guitars, only the solos), and since then I have not bothered with it again.
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