Roger Waters

Something else is, Bardberic, that the more traditional definition of anti-Zionism is (according to Wikipedia):

"Anti-Zionism is opposition to Zionism.^[a] Although anti-Zionism is a heterogeneous phenomenon, all its proponents agree that the creation of the modern State of Israel, and the movement to create a sovereign Jewish state in the region of Palestine – the biblical Land of Israel – was flawed or unjust in some way."

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism)

And I don't think you can complain about using Cindy's (@omphaloskepsis') definition of anti-Zionism instead of this more traditional one - if you can see what I mean - while all talk about anti-Zionism being anti-semitic is pure BS, my friend.

^ Wow you just can't stop,  can you.   You get the thoughtful responses you ask for, you also get an ass-kicking or two, and you still are plying your subtle and oh so charming anti-Israeli stance.

Keep it up, because I'm sure you will.   Any other charming and uninformed positions?   Maybe someday you'll be surrounded by hostile neighbors who want nothing more than to kill you, your country, your religion, your history, your friends...  

Unbelievable.  Anyone else?   Maybe Stressed Cheese, you got anymore sparkling wisdom you'd like to share?   Hmm?

Besides that, I've experienced quite a lot of racism in Israel in relation to not only the Palestinians but all the Arabs.

sounds like you are trying to justify anti semitism here, thereby contributing to the difficulties some have distinguishing anti zionism and anti semitism, on both sides of this subject 

I shared basically one thought on this a few pages back - one that you agreed with. Other than that I haven't really talked about this, because I don't pretend I'm the leading expert on this (compare how little I've said about the Israel/Palestine conflict with what I said on the dutch farmer situation). So this hostility is uncalled for. Even if you disagree with someone, you don't have to automatically assume the worst about people and make it personal.

I think if you're naming people who haven't talked about this topic for a couple pages to drag them back in because you hope they say something that you can disagree with, it might be time to take a step back and think if arguing with strangers on the internet is really the best way to spend your free time.

But, Atavachron, you're still my Jew Brother, even I'm only half a Jew, ethnically speaking, and certainly not religious

- except from being half a Marxist. 

    but I'm not suprised. 

This is a thread about Roger Waters and I think, the discussion here about anti-Zionism has been long enough, and I won't

participate in it anymore. I'd like to say though as my conclusion that I find the definition of anti-Zionism and what to think 

about it as a very important issue concerning Israel and not least the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but it's also a very complex 

and difficult one to deal with.