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The Dark Elf 
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 Posted: February 12 2023 at 11:15 |
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Listening to Catch a Fire currently. Such a splendid album. I couldn't care less if folks are looking for "progessive reggae". I'll stick with Bob, Peter Tosh and Bunny.
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Posted: February 12 2023 at 11:24 |
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Megistus
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Posted: February 12 2023 at 11:30 |
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Yes! Catch a Fire and Burnin are very special albums to me. Despite the great things Bob went on to do at the behest of Chris Blackwell, the original Wailers were, in their own way, extremely progressive. Before them Reggae was just re-hashed versions of 50s doo-wop and rock'n'roll. With their jazz, rock and African influences they entirely defined what reggae was to become (not that the supporting cast of the brothers Barrett and others can be ignored either). But, definitely there was a unique chemistry at play between Marley, Tosh and Bunny Wailer. To quote Peter Tosh (after the Wailers): I've learned some lessons in my life Always be careful of mankind They'll make you promises today But tomorrow they change their mind But I'm an upfull man And I love upfull people I'm a progressive man And I love progressive people  |
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Posted: February 12 2023 at 12:43 |
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The two Reggae lps that i remember well from parties are the 'pick-a-dub' lp by Keith Hudson (1974) and 'Screaming target' by Big Youth.. really good dub and much sampled by people like Massive Attack etc.
The Ozrics have already been mentioned.. IQ had a foray into 'white reggae' (urrgh.. ) in their very early days i seem to remember (Barbell is in..) Of course the Orbs glorious 'Towers of Dub' has to have a mention
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Posted: February 12 2023 at 16:21 |
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That and Burning (love the Zippo Gimmick cover of CaF)... And for the later BM&TW albums, I'll take Live at Lyceum and Babylon By Bus (caught them on that tour)
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 03:10 |
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Quantum Fantay goes reggae quite often, but also David Gilmour has done a bit of reggae on the coda of Cruise.
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 03:45 |
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Yes for Quantum Fantay and The Flower Kings !
And when I see progressive music and reggae put together, I always think about Rush - Vital Signs.
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 05:32 |
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^ I think that Vital Signs was a tip of the hat to The Police rather than an attempt to emulate Bob Marley.
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 05:42 |
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I have Oceans of Love for Christian Reggae and my all-time favourite Reggae band: Christafari.
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 11:50 |
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Oi Mr Gleeson, I like that song. Ok, it might not make many people's Led Zep Top 10 but I don't care.
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 13:25 |
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It's a fun song! Just goes to show Bonzo wasn't going to give up his signature style for anything - not even a hint of swing in those hi-hats! However, I have to say the lyrics are, well... trash basically. No doubt, it was Plant's idea being a man with a fondness for reggae, as evidenced by a live bonus track on an expanded edition of one of his 80s/early 90s albums, where I was quite surprised to hear a Bob Marley cover, before the band launched into one of Plant's songs. Wish I could find it now...
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 13:33 |
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Admittedly not my cuppa tea, but Christafari -- it had to be done didn't it! Heck of a lot of common ground between Christianity and Rastafari anyway. I once played at a Rasta Christmas event (celebrated around January 8th) -- never felt so welcomed by such lovely people. And the dumplings were lovely :)
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 13:41 |
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^the still from the video just about sums up my reaction whenever I hear that song! I used to play it (well, play and sing it I'm ashamed to say
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 16:12 |
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Seventh Wave : This is only the beginning from their second LP Psi-fi has a slight reggae beat
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 16:27 |
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Reggae is more of an accent ingredient in prog and other genres. Since the genre is deeply linked to Rastafarianism, any use of it outside of that context isn't really true reggae. Because reggae music incorporates a steady groove it's not super compatible to odd time signatures and progressive rock characteristics therefore what we would deem as progressive reggae doesn't exist. The term is used on the internet but is never really clearly defined. I guess refers to subject matter that's deeper than normal. As an accent ingredient, here's a cool track that has a wild reggae part towards the end. |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 16:44 |
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Prog Reggae, courtesy of Dread Zeppelin. Elvis is in the building!
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 17:25 |
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^ i love their debut album! I wouldn't call comedy reggae progressive by any means. Maybe novelty reggae is more accurate :)
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 17:57 |
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Robert Plant likes Dread Zeppelin too.  |
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 18:02 |
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Dread Zeppelin - Heartbreaker
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Posted: February 13 2023 at 18:47 |
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My thoughts echo the above quite closely... You could argue there's only so much you can do with reggae 'till it's not reggae any more. As an aside... I saw a bit of stuff calling itself psychedelic reggae earlier on youtube... only to find out it's dub/reggae style intros, then launches off into good old psytrance! [For some music that started out as goa/psy, then was quite artfully dubbified, I would recommend "Hallucinogen In Dub".] Anyway, since you mentioned odd time signatures, here's the sort of thing I really like to hear -- it's a steady groove for sure, but I love the way the time changes between 4/4 and 6/8 are incorporated so seamlessly. And then, there's the version of Money from Dub Side of The Moon... still managing to get the offbeat skank in there over 7/4, although the toasting section instead of the guitar solo is a sad loss! |
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