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Note: our tracklist is correct, but there are no timings. Discogs has the timings, but there are two tracks missing (19. Giulio Ci Riprova and 33. La Fisa Sul Divano). There is a note on the page at the top right saying "Needs Changes". I have therefore added these two missing tracks to the discogs list using spotify's timings from their stream of the album. There are a few minor variations in timings with the rest of the tracks between spotify and discogs, but I've just left the rest of these timings as per discogs. The differences are hardly a matter of life and death really. 1. Il Capitano (1:06) 2. Barbara E Giulio (2:11) 3. Molo 13 (1:19) 4. Jamilia (2:35) 5. Squadra In Azione (1:20) 6. Dopo L'Agguato (1:04) 7. I Pensieri Di Margie (1:16) 8. Saranno Un Paio D'Anni (0:38) 9. Barre D'Uranio (1:28) 10. Requiem Per Baccini (1:49) 11. Una Storia Complicata (0:55) 12. Tutti Pronti! (1:05) 13. Obbiettivo Mandana (1:23) 14. Un'Azione Coordinata (1:34) 15. Cappi L'Inquieto (0:58) 16. Fine Della Speranza (1:30) 17. Tensione Crescente (1:17) 18. Una Storia Nuova? (1:04) 19. Giulio Ci Riprova (0:37) 20. Intercettazioni Ambientali (0:59) 21. Punti Interrogativi (1:26) 22. Restare O Andarsene? (1:11) 23. Margie E Giulio Come Allora (1:49) 24. La Nave Prende Il Largo (2:38) 25. Margie Triste (1:09) 26. Ancora Una Volta (0:52) 27. La Squadra Riparte (1:19) 28. Attesa Senza Fine (1:21) 29. Foto E Bugie Innocenti (1:46) 30. Vincenzo Si Salverà! (2:33) 31. Un Po' Di Tenerezza (1:36) 32. Marcia (2:16) 33. La Fisa Sul Divano (1:27) 34. Una Donna Da Non Dimenticare (1:59) 35. Strategia Di Attacco (1:32) Total time 51:02 Another source of the timings would be https://www.filmmusicsite.com/en/soundtracks.cgi?id=26117 though: 1. Il Capitano (1:06) 2. Barbara E Giulio (2:10) 3. Molo 13 (1:19) 4. Jamilia (2:36) 5. Squadra In Azione (1:18) 6. Dopo L'agguato (1:05) 7. I Pensieri Di Margie (1:17) 8. Saranno Un Paio D'anni (0:38) 9. Barre D'uranio (1:31) 10. Requiem Per Baccini (1:50) 11. Una Storia Complicata (0:57) 12. Tutti Pronti ! (1:06) 13. Obbiettivo Mandana (1:23) 14. Un'azione Coordinata (1:35) 15. Cappi L'inquieto (0:58) 16. Fine Della Speranza (1:31) 17. Tensione Crescente (1:20) 18. Una Storia Nuova? (1:05) 19. Giulio Ci Riprova (0:37) 20. Intercettazioni Ambientali (1:00) 21. Punti Interrogativi (1:27) 22. Restare O Andarsene? (1:14) 23. Margie E Giulio Come Allora (1:51) 24. La Nave Prende Il Largo (2:40) 25. Margie Triste (1:12) 26. Ancora Una Volta (0:52) 27. La Squadra Riparte (1:18) 28. Attesa Senza Fine (1:24) 29. Foto E Bugie Innocenti (1:47) 30. Vincenzo Si Salverà ! (2:33) 31. Un Po' Di Tenerezza (1:38) 32. Marcia (2:16) 33. La Fisa Sul Divano (1:27) 34. Una Donna Da Non Dimenticare (1:52) 35. Strategia Di Attacco (1:33) Total time 51:26 This total time is roughly a midway compromise between discogs and spotify. All I know about the Line-up / musicians is: - Fabio Frizzi / orchestrated and conducted by I don't know which orchestra was involved, or who the conductor was. CD Fonit Cetra Music Publishing S.r.l. - 5 050467 717022 (2005, Italy) CD Warner Chappell Music Italiana S.r.l. - 5 050467 717022 (2005, Italy) Edit: ^ I didn't read that last bit about the orchestra and conductor through properly before I posted it lol! According to the discogs link at the beginning of the post, the music was orchestrated and conducted by Fabio Frizzi, so it's just the name of the orchestra that is lacking. E&O Team: Thanks, David, done. Used the first timings and changed the Release info as CD Fonit Cetra Music Publishing S.r.l. / Warner Chappell Music Italiana S.r.l. - 5 050467 717022 (2005, Italy), because otherwise it looks like 2 releases by different record labels.
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Last one for tonight, another Fabio Frizzi one, and I'm not sure whether it actually belongs in his own discography since the score was composed by Fabio Frizzi, Franco Bixio, and Vince Tempera.
https://lightintheattic.net/releases/7087-sette-note-in-nero (where it's credited as a 'Various Artists' release). If the album stays, then our timings are good, but total time needs reformatting to remove the 00 hours part. I've no idea which orchestra was involved, but the conductor was Vince Tempera. Again, I've found nothing to add into the Line-up / musicians section. CD Digitmovies - CDDM062 (2006, Italy) CD Limited Edition Reissue Cinevox Record - DGBT002, Digibeat - DGBT002, Beat Records Company - DGBT002 with two bonus tracks (2015, Italy) Note: The bonus tracks are two suites performed and recorded at Fabio Frizzi's concerts in England. One is from October 31, 2013 at Union Chapel (also available in the CD album Fabio Frizzi - Frizzi 2 Fulci - Live at Union Chapel) and the other is from October 31, 2014 at the Barbican. 2 x Vinyl LP Limited Edition Reissue (500 copies) Death Waltz Recording Company - DW167, Mondo - DW167, Cinevox Record - DW167, AMS Records - DW167 (2020, US) Edit: The music composed for "Sette Note in Nero" was by Fabio Frizzi with the help of Franco Bixio, and it was arranged by Vince Tempera, so a possible solution to the empty Line-up / musicians field (if the album is considered to be a valid one to leave in the Fabio Frizzi discography) might be to just add: - Fabio Frizzi /composer - Franco Bixio / assistant composer - Vince Tempera / arranger, conductor E&O Team: Thanks, David, done.
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Current state of play with the "Name / guitars" list when all outstanding posts have been dealt with:
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Regarding the bands who changed their names.
I PMd Greg (Logan), his recommendation is: I would think New Name (ex Old Name). Be careful with the / names, sometimes those are splits or collaborations. I also think that it's absolutely necessary to verify info before making changes.
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Three more albums for tonight from the "Name / guitars" list:
https://www.discogs.com/release/15592578-Giant-Step-Tinombala (with timings). https://www.iramanusantara.org/release/1351 (with actual streaming of the tracks). Timings (taken from actual stream of the album): 1. Lisa (6:27) 2. Tinombala (5:37) 3. Tentang Hari Esok (3:17) 4. Kapankah (4:07) 5. Ketidak Pastian (4:02) 6. Hampa (3:21) Total time 26:51 - Benny Soebardja / vocals, guitar - Harry Soebardja / lead guitar - Adhy Haryadi (aka Adhy Sibolangit) / bass - Erwin Badudu / keyboards - Tommy Solemede / drums, percussion Vinyl LP Irama Tara - IT-0108 (1979, Indonesia) Cassette (split with Roxy Group) Irama Tara (1979, Indonesia) ---------------------------------------------- https://www.iramanusantara.org/release/1681 (with actual streaming of the tracks) 1. Warna Harapan (4:11) 2. Kusut Masai (3:30) 3. Kisah Titik Embun (5:34) 4. Ceritera Nenek (2:11) 5. Langkah Baru (2:58) 6. Jumpa Kehendak (3:54) 7. Telunjuk Lurus Kelingking Berkait (6:33) Total time 28:51 - Benny Soebardja / vocals, acoustic guitar - Harry Soebardja / lead guitar - Adhy Haryadi (aka Adhy Sibolangit) / bass - Erwin Badudu / keyboards - Tommy Solemede / drums, percussion Vinyl LP Irama Tara – IT 1041 (1980, Indonesia) Cassette (with 3 extra tracks) Irama Tara (1980, Indonesia) ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. Hurtmold - Tele (3:16) 2. Hurtmold - Xabu (5:24) 3. Hurtmold - Assopro (6:15) 4. Hurtmold - Toninho & Os Chaka5 (5:28) 5. Hurtmold - O Verdadeiro Cozido (6:42) 6. Eternals, The - Black Museum (5:29) 7. Eternals, The - Chicago Beatdown (1:37) 8. Eternals, The - Evacuation (3:55) 9. Eternals, The - Evacuate (2:57) 10. Eternals, The - Fire In Apartment 217 (3:25) Total time 44:28 Hurtmold: - Maurício Takara / drums, vibraphone, trumpet - Guilherme Granado / keyboards, vibraphone, melodica - Marcos Gerez / bass - Mário Cappi / guitar - Fernando Cappi / guitar - Rogério Martins / percussion, clarinet The Eternals: - Wayne Montana / bass, synthesizer, melodica, guitar, piano - Dan Fliegel / drums, percussion, drum programming, guitar, keyboards - Damon Locks / vocals, keyboards, effects, synthesizer Note: All albums of Hurtmold (except possibly the last one) could do with some attention if anyone has the time to spare. Most have either missing times or missing line-ups (this is either a blank field, or 'no info' is written there). General formatting is poor in some cases too. Edit: I forgot to mention that those two albums of Giant Step are very short (less than 30 minutes) - as is their last album too - so maybe they ought to be in the Official Singles, EPs, Fan Club & Promo section? As I understand it, the EP description refers to the length of the music recorded rather than the size of the record that they are pressed on, but these albums were released on full size 12" vinyl rather than a 7" or 10" pressing, so they're kinda 'half and half' between an album and an EP, if that's possible! E&O Team: Thanks, David, done.
I'm not brave enough to handle all Hurtmold albums though. As for Giant Step albums, I would leave them in Studio. EP or Studio I think depends not only on the length but on how artists and record labels see their releases. For example, many RPI classic albums clock less than 30 minutes. Edited by NotAProghead - February 09 2023 at 18:39 |
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Changed NotAPrighead to NotAProghead in the Updated By field...
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So is it : or Blackbirch / ex Harvest like Eugene's updates from today? Maybe it's not so important, but it would be nice to have a definite template.
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^ Good point, Julien.
I think Blackbirch / ex Harvest, because brackets are used, for example, for abbreviations, like PREMIATA FORNERIA MARKONI (PFM).
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If I remember it after the "Name / guitars" list is all finished, I'll see if I can find the missing info for them.
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Nice, so would you update Blackbirch (ex Harvest) ?
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^ Thanks for reminding me, Julien, I already forgot it.
Done now.
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I've just done some minimal updating of all Hurtmold album pages, so they look less ugly. Feel free to suggest more accurate info at some time in the future...
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Thanks, David. But please only after the "Name / guitars" list is all finished. Probably one day Julien will prepare the list of albums with missing line-up info and we'll realize that life is very short.
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^ I hear you Eugene! There'll be no more work from me now until Monday. We're already half way through the 'major releases' part of Julien's "Name / guitars" list, so I think you deserve a long weekend!
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Updated track listing, line-up (as shown on the official release), and releases information for "Real Time" by Van Der Graaf Generator. I believe the title should be updated to "Real Time (Royal Festival Hall)" as well.
Disc One (70:10) : 1. The Undercover Man (8:29) 2. Scorched Earth (10:05) 3. Refugees (6:01) 4. Every Bloody Emperor (7:36) 5. Lemmings (13:20) 6. (In The) Black Room (11:16) 7. Nutter Alert (6:05) 8. Darkness (7:20) Disc Two (58:36) : 1. Masks (6:47) 2. Childlike Faith In Childhood's End (12:34) 3. The Sleepwalkers (10:44) 4. Man-Erg (11:36) 5. Killer (9:55) 6. Wondering (7:01) Total Time: 128:46 Disc Three - Bonus CD from 2007 Japanese edition (37:09) : 1. Pilgrims (Live in Paris) (7:31) 2. When She Comes (Live in Amsterdam) (8:08) 3. Still Life (Live in Taormina) (7:52) 4. Gibberish (Soundcheck in Amsterdam) (13:38) Line-up: - Peter Hammill / vocals, guitar, piano - David Jackson / saxophone, flute - Hugh Banton / organ - Guy Evans / drums Releases information: Recorded Live at The Royal Festival Hall, London, 6th May 2005 Contains the entire recording of the group's first reunion concert. Mixed by: Hugh Banton Recorded by: Julie Gardner Cover: Paul Ridout Liner Notes: Peter Hammill Photography: Ed Clarke, Daniel Thurnes Management: Gail Colson Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14770 Discogs (UK) - https://www.discogs.com/release/949242-Van-Der-Graaf-Generator-Real-Time-Royal-Festival-Hall Discogs (Japan) - https://www.discogs.com/release/1478221-Van-Der-Graaf-Generator-Real-Time-Royal-Festival-Hall
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Updated track listing and releases information for "Interference Patterns - The Recordings 2005 - 2016"
Present (CD 1) : 1. Every Bloody Emperor (7:03) 2. Boleas Panic (6:51) 3. Nutter Alert (6:10) 4. Abandon Ship! (5:06) 5. In Babelsberg (5:30) 6. On the Beach (6:51) Present (CD 2) : 1. Vulcan Meld (7:18) 2. Double Bass (6:30) 3. Slo Moves (6:23) 4. Architectural Hair (8:53) 5. Spanner (5:00) 6. Crux (5:50) 7. Manuelle (7:51) 8. 'Eavy Mate (3:50) 9. Homage to Teo (4:42) 10. The Price of Admission (8:51) Real Time - Royal Festival Hall (CD 3) : 1. The Undercover Man (8:29) 2. Scorched Earth (10:05) 3. Refugees (6:00) 4. Every Bloody Emperor (7:36) 5. Lemmings (13:20) 6. (In the) Black Room (11:15) 7. Nutter Alert (6:05) 8. Darkness (11/11) (7:22) Real Time - Royal Festival Hall (CD 4) : 1. Masks (6:47) 2. Childlike Faith in Childhood's End (12:34) 3. The Sleepwalkers (10:440 4. Man-Erg (11:37) 5. Killer (9:54) 6. Wondering (7:03) Real Time - Japanese Limited Edition (CD 5) : 1. Pilgrims (Paris 12.07.2005) (7:29) 2. When She Comes (Amsterdam 23.07.2005) (8:06) 3. Still Life (Taormina 15.07.2005) (7:50) 4. Gibberish (Soundcheck - Amsterdam 23.07.2005) (13:39) Trisector (CD 6) : 1. The Hurlyburly (4:35) 2. Interference (3:50) 3. Patterns The Final (5:47) 4. Reel Lifetime (4:45) 5. Drop Dead (4:47) 6. Only a Whisper (6:44) 7. All That Before (6:26) 8. Over the Hill (12:26) 9. (We Are) Not Here (4:06) Live At The Paradiso 14:04:07 (CD 7) : 1. Lemmings (13:54) 2. A Place to Survive (6:54) 3. Lifetime (5:12) 4. (In the) Black Room (11:43) 5. Every Bloody Emperor (7:29) 6. All That Before (7:44) Live At The Paradiso 14:04:07 (CD 8) : 1. Gog (7:25) 2. Meurglys III, The Songwriter's Guild (15:55) 3. The Sleepwalkers (11:04) 4. Man-Erg (11:55) 5. Scorched Earth (9:25) A Grounding in Numbers (CD 9) : 1. Your Time Starts Now (4:14) 2. Mathematics (3:38) 3. Highly Strung (3:36) 4. Red Baron (2:23) 5. Bunsho (5:03) 6. Snake Oil (5:20) 7. Splink (2:37) 8. Embarrassing Kid (3:07) 9. Medusa (2:12) 10. Mr. Sands (5:22) 11. Smoke (2:30) 12. 5533 (2:42) 13. All Over the Place (6:04) ALT (CD 10) : 1. Earlybird (4:01) 2. Extractus (1:38) 3. Sackbutt (1:53) 4. Colossus (6:36) 5. Batty Loop (1:14) 6. Splendid (3:46) 7. Repeat After Me (7:39) 8. Elsewhere (4:19) 9. Here's One I Made (5:42) 10. Earlier Midnight or So (3:34) 11. D'Accord (2:28) 12. Mackerel Ate Them (4:50) 13. Tuesday, The Riff (2:47) 14. Dronus (10:37) Merlin Atmos (Live Performances 2013) - Merlin Atmos (CD 11) : 1. Flight (21:30) 2. Lifetime (5:10) 3. All That Before (7:46) 4. Bunsho (5:48) 5. A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers (24:05) 6. Gog (6:39) Merlin Atmos (Live Performances 2013) - Bonus Atmos (CD 12) : 1. Interference Patterns (4:28) 2. Over the Hill (12:36) 3. Your Time Starts Now (4:14) 4. Scorched Earth (10:14) 5. Meurglys III, The Songwriter's Guild (15:24) 6. Man-Erg (11:40) 7. Childlike Faith in Childhood's End (12:37) Do Not Disturb (CD 13) : 1. Aloft (7:20) 2. Alfa Berliner (6:40) 3. Room 1210 (6:47) 4. Forever Falling (5:39) 5. Shikata Ga Nai (2:29) 6. (Oh No! I Must Have Said) Yes (7:44) 7. Brought to Book (7:57) 8. Almost the Words (7:54) 9. Go (4:35) Live At The Paradiso 14:04:07 (DVD) : 1. Lemmings 2. A Place to Survive 3. Lifetime 4. (In the) Black Room 5. Every Bloody Emperor 6. All That Before 7. Gog 8. Meurglys III, The Songwriter's Guild 9. The Sleepwalkers 10. Man-Erg 11. Scorched Earth Releases Information: Conceived And Coodinated By: Mark Powell Additional Coodination: Vicky Powell Design: Paul Ridout Liner Notes: Sid Smith CD Mastering: Ben Wiseman CD13+DVD Esoteric Recordings - ECLEC 142810 (2022) Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=76037 Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/release/24440312-Van-Der-Graaf-Generator-Interference-Patterns-The-Recordings-2005-2016
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David, if you want to proceed, let's go. The "unwanted" entry has been wiped. By the way, you were right. this is pretty good music!
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There may be missing an EP in Leo Carnicella's discography, it's called Until A New Dawn.
Source: https://leocarnicella.bandcamp.com/album/until-a-new-dawn Edited by Heart of the Matter - February 12 2023 at 04:56 |
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