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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6838 |
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Option 2 for me. I appreciated lyrics more when I was younger, but now it's more about the sound of the voice and words. I can readily listen to songs sung in another language without caring that I don't understand.
There is one thing gor me is that sonetimes, if a non-native speaker is singing in English with a subtle accent, that bothers me more than if the singer had a heavy accent. Also, if I am paying attention and the lyrics are offensive or ridiculous, that could ruin an otherwise, good song. |
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dwill123 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 19 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4460 |
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Not important at all
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Argentinfonico ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 05 2021 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 368 |
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Fourth option. I think lyrics are less important in songs with many instruments than in songs with one or two. Depends on the genre too.
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It depends on genre. Hip hop and folk music are meaningless without lyrics. Prog, metal and electronic music can get bogged down by lyrics. Short answer, not important but if done well of course they boost an album's rating. Wordless vocalizations and foreign languages i don't understand are a plus!
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17980 |
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I picked #3, because I am interested in them but if I read along on a new record while playing and turns out to be meh, then it becomes #2.
Some/most new lyrics lately are really tough to get into or understand what the band is trying to portray/communicate. It could be a language barrier (ie Riverside...) that makes it tough to understand what Mariuz is trying to convey, but I appreciate what he is doing. Clearly not the case with a lyricist like Neil Peart......he makes you think.
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I picked other. I like gibberish.
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18149 |
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Hi, Thank you ... I get concerned when people think they have to have some meaning before they eat their bowl of cereal. It's weird, and rather strange if you ask me. Some stuff is nice, some isn't, and the main issue is ... the personal side of things and the choices made here ... there is no effort to help identify what might be considered "good" lyric and what is considered "bad" lyric, this conveying this poll to nothing but an internet nothing. The worst part, is that in many cases we are saying that words don't matter ... and you should try that on the wife or kids, see if you like it! The problem, and question, is when it is overblown and people think that it is important because it was Joe Schmoe that said it and did it! If Neil Peart's lyrics, don't stand out on someone else's rendition, then his lyrics are not that great! That's really simple. If you can not feel, or say, the same words as Ian, then you know that there is something there that stands out (in earlier days, anyway!) ... We remember many words in literature ... and we still quote Shakespeare and many other writers ... well we also quote the horrible translations of that one book that changed the meanings to a Walt Disney version of things! Hundreds of actors have lived through many of those words, and they still live. This is an issue with a lot in this board ... a lot of the material is ignored, without any intelligent discussion and comments, other than personal garbage. So, how is it that you will think that one person's words are OK and fine, and another's are not? Are they not people, as well? personally, it is not the "lyrics" that matter ... it's the cohesion of the two ... and you can tell that many folks have not heard operas, so they can get a different of how music for 200+ years has interpreted words, only to find that in the 21st century no one gives a damn, except throwing stones at someone ... for whatever they said or thought. Consider the source!
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I eat cereal for dinner.....
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I eat dinner for breakfast.....
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wiz_d_kidd ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 13 2018 Location: EllicottCityMD Status: Offline Points: 1462 |
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Same here, Ian. I don't understand why so many feel the need to vocalize, and to do it poorly.
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(funnily I enjoy plenty of ska, rocksteady and dub)
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HolyMoly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
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Lyrics are usually the last thing I focus on . But if I listen with a lyric sheet and the lyric connects with me, it might become my favorite part. (I usually can’t understand/focus on lyrics without help). Generally that’s not the case - in prog or in other music I like.
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Banal lyrics are an immediate turn off.
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I'll bounce over Ian's comment, on which I agree mostly. Being bilingual (almost tri-lingual with Spanish), I usually try to understand what those prog lyrics +/- mean (I manage in Italian, but not in Swedish or Swahili). I generally have to pay attention to a lot of lyrics, but I will only do if I love the music and the vocal timbre doesn't annoy me (whiny vocals of neo-prog) beyond belief. More than bad lyrics, bad vocals will be a turn off. However, for albums I love and couldn't understand the lyrics because they were in Finnish, Kobaïan (or Thaï), I've gone out of my way to find translation. I even have the translation of Anglagard's Hybris inside the booklet, same with Hoyry Kone and a few others. However in general, I do find lyrics often better in prog (not a rule, because too many exception to make it one) than in other music styles (some Rap/Hip-Hop also rank fairly high up there), but then again, I generally listen more to instrumental music than sung music. To make a long story short, outside of my living room, I "hear/get" lyrics almost systematically in French without the slightest effort (generally music sung in French being broadcasted, lyrics are often either important - not just politically - or witty), very often so in English (but a little more attention is required - a bit more so, as I age ![]() Edited by Sean Trane - February 10 2023 at 02:01 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Megistus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 25 2023 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 111 |
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I am confused... how can you like ska, rocksteady and dub, but dislike reggae? Unless you dislike the sort of cheesy reggae that has dominated the mainstream -- things like UB40's onslaught of horrible cover versions post 1984, or Aswad's departure into utter commercialism with "that one song they are known for" -- rather than both bands' other authentic material which in my opinion is well worth listening to. Dub originally was simply reggae without the lyrics and with added production techniques, i.e. Lee Scratch Perry, etc... but has since broadened into something utterly beyond that... to the point that it's now perfectly normal to have dub music.. with lyrics... which brings me back to the German "reggae" I was listening to, which may have been more aptly described as dub, although I didn't want to confuse matters by calling it that! Unfortunately, I've totally forgotten the names of the artists I was listening to so can't give an example. PS. I utterly despise reggaeton!
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15569 |
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I can indeed understand the critical comments concerning some of the lyrics, I still think though that not so few people could benefit well by paying more attention to the good ones. ![]() Edited by David_D - February 10 2023 at 11:25 |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15569 |
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When talking about lyrics, there's also the question of their potential function as means for improvement of society and culture. Edited by David_D - February 12 2023 at 12:42 |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12507 |
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-It's very much like my Punk dislike/disinterest. I can only think of a dozen or so "true" punk-tunes that I somewhat enjoy (early The Damned-singles, some Misfits are kind of fun, and a handful of of Sex Pistols-songs are cool...), but most of it is either just plain ugly or as with Reggae - musically bores me to tears. Still I do love loads of so-called Post-Punk/New Wave and a lot of "Proto-Punk", early Hardcore and Gothic Rock, Zolo, British Ska...
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