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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15509 |
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My are not so sensitive either, but it goes very well with my tube amp. ![]() |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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^ Stop it!!
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7859 |
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[URL= ][/URL]https://www.psaudio.com/askpaulvideo/octave-records-dsd-vs-vinyl/
I found this interesting and I’d like to hear the vinyl community’s thoughts on this. ![]() |
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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^^I've got a spare one sitting on the shelf.
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17957 |
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I'll read those articles later. As far as Octave Records, yes Paul is recording everything in digital to DSD, he is one of the boutique studios doing this. I've not heard any of his LPs, I've read they sound excellent which they should assuming the mastering is done properly for vinyl.
I've looked thru the Octave catalog and not much interests me so I've not bought any, remember its about the music first! Octave records run about $50-$75 so he will face some competition from Kevin Gray at $39.99 for a 100% all analog recording using all valve recording gear, mics and mastering gear. A lot of extra processing in the digital world ADC then DAC, on SACD is probably excellent.....but to get to an analog media from digital different story, IMO.
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17957 |
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Not sure I posted before, here is Kevin Gray explaining his new recording studio.......Cohearent Records.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15509 |
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What I meant about CDs is that in general the AADs sound significantly better than the DDDs, even I seem to find some improvement with the newer DDD-CDs. |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15509 |
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EQs don't use to be very welcomed in high-end systems.
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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^Not true, the real purpose of an EQ isn't to make the system sound better, it's to allow for corrections in the listening environment that the system would experience if it was moved to another room or if the room itself changed through furniture or other renovation modifications such as changing room a carpeted room to wood floors.
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17957 |
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I used equalizers in the past, mainly because I was taping so much to cassette I would add a little here and there. Today, it's not needed as my gear is much better. I still have the last one I used. It is a 10 band EQ, model ADC Sound Shaper SS-100SL, works but not being used.
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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And clearly, looking at the EQ profile, you know what the f#@k you're doing. Can't remember how many times I've seen guys with EQ's where almost all faders are pushed above 0dB. At first pass it should be used to reduce the problem freq's, then sweeten conservatively.
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Well I should have said that is an online pic........Somewhere I have a pic of it in my system. But regardless yea I know what you mean. Most people used EQs to boost bass and highs, or what they call the "smiley curve". I was always right around 0 with a smidge here and there, but again that was due to me adjusting before I made a cassette copy. Some LPs that had thin bass or boosted highs I would adjust to my liking. So then no EQ was needed on playback. I've never used a DSP program to measure my room, which is what is needed if you wanna find out where the null points are in your room. Problem is none of our rooms are perfect, we all have stuff in our rooms, furniture, rug, hardwood, uneven walls, picture frames, TVs, windows, door ways, hall ways....most of that cannot be corrected if the DSP measurement calls for it, hence the WAF comes into play...big time!!!
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17957 |
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I have zero issue with records cut from DSD. This is what MoFi has admitted to doing for the past 10-12yrs but never told anyone. LOL Everyone still thought they were cutting from the original master tapes, which they advertised. I respect what Paul is saying but there are video interviews of Bernie Grundman who will state otherwise, that cutting from the master tapes is the closest you will get to what the musician wanted you to hear. Remember that for DSD to vinyl there has to be conversion from digital to analog, any conversion has the chance of adding noise as well loosing data. You cannot do any mastering (EQing, compression, none of that) in the DSD domain, why?? DSD by definition is 1-bit, mathematically it does not work, you can't change 1 if only 1 exists. Paul talks about this in other videos, so that DSD file needs to be converted to PCM for any mastering to happen, then back to DSD or to a 24bit file or redbook.....A lot of conversions happening. I trust Bernie's ears light years more than Paul's, Bernie has been mastering and cutting records for 50years......Paul has 1yr of recording experience with Octave. Again, mad respect for Paul but for different reasons and products. But again, I have no issues with records cut from digital files, problem is with the bad engineers you get tons of compression and sucks the life out. The engineers that know what they are doing the records sound great! But given the choice, 100% analog for me is preferred....YMMV |
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I used the Rec Out or Preamp Out and Rec In. Used the Monitor button on the EQ to hear what I was changing as it hit the tape heads.
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Some nice systems posted here!
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Hello my fellow Canadian friend. Thank you for this link. I enjoyed the listen and read. Certainly the sound enhancement is not necessarily the pinnacle of optimal sound quality. Different measures on the recording and the effect of one’s perception of sound effects all this. Anyhow. Keep spinning and enjoy the music. ![]() ![]() |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15509 |
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