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    Posted: January 29 2023 at 11:38
This, in my opinion, is one of those tremendous neo prog albums that every fan of Marillion, IQ, Pallas and especially Twelfth Night will like. Last year I was looking for a track of this album online. I have the CD, but I wanted to share a track of this album on a thread here on PA, but I discovered that only a couple were available. Now, since a couple of months, this album can be discovered on youtube, so for those who don't know it yet...:



This album was issued in 1992 by SI-music. A label that came out of the Dutch prog rock magazine Sym Info (later SI Magazine, for information about "symphonic rock" of course - "prog" or progressive wasn't much a label yet in those late 80s early 90s, in the Netherlands at least), that had some other great neo prog bands on their sleeves at that time...

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As a serious Mann fan, I love Casino! It takes many of the best elements of IQ, Strangers on a Train and Twelfth Night and organizes them into a new whole that feels familiar yet wholly fresh. Geoff's lyrics are always on point. The guy was a true poet.

The band/album/project boasts the collective talents of Geoff Mann, Clive Nolan, Brian Devoil, Mike Stobbie, Jon Jeary, Karl Groom and Paul Flynn, and Sylvain Gouvernaire. It's a post-'80s classic!

Verglas reissued Casino once, in 1997.


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Hi,

Very nice and I listened to the whole thing and had to repeat it all ... it was tremendous to listen to a band that didn't go ... "look, I'm this or that" ... and just did their thing, and very well, specially for a concept album as this one seems to be, at least by the titles of the pieces.

Very nice extended pieces, very well defined and designed. 

One of the more enjoyable listens I have had in a while! Though 30 years late to hearing it, my apologies musicians, but you did great, and I will be looking for this CD, if I can find it. Very nice and truly enjoyable!
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

This, in my opinion, is one of those tremendous neo prog albums that every fan of Marillion, IQ, Pallas and especially Twelfth Night will like. Last year I was looking for a track of this album online. I have the CD, but I wanted to share a track of this album on a thread here on PA, but I discovered that only a couple were available. Now, since a couple of months, this album can be discovered on youtube, so for those who don't know it yet...:



This album was issued in 1992 by SI-music. A label that came out of the Dutch prog rock magazine Sym Info (later SI Magazine, for information about "symphonic rock" of course - "prog" or progressive wasn't much a label yet in those late 80s early 90s, in the Netherlands at least), that had some other great neo prog bands on their sleeves at that time...




Totally worth adding to your collection imho…
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

As a serious Mann fan, I love Casino! It takes many of the best elements of IQ, Strangers on a Train and Twelfth Night and organizes them into a new whole that feels familiar yet wholly fresh. Geoff's lyrics are always on point. The guy was a true poet.

The band/album/project boasts the collective talents of Geoff Mann, Clive Nolan, Brian Devoil, Mike Stobbie, Jon Jeary, Karl Groom and Paul Flynn, and Sylvain Gouvernaire. It's a post-'80s classic!

Verglas reissued Casino once, in 1997.





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I had the CD many years ago. I didn't like the singer so I sold it.
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Casino is a lovely album by fusion guitar legend Al Di Meola; Highly recommended as the culmination of his classic three album debut!
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I remember seeing this album listed in prog catalogs in the early 90s. At some point it went out of print which is too bad. I'll try to listen to some of it on youtube. I know the late Geoff Mann was involved and apparently they were a kind of neo-prog supergroup but beyond that I don't know much about them.
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Originally posted by PhideauxFan PhideauxFan wrote:

I had the CD many years ago. I didn't like the singer so I sold it.

Well then you probably won't like Twelfth Night either because it's the same singer. Come to think of it you should probably also stay away from Peter Hammill, VDGG and the band Discipline. Wink
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I remember seeing this album listed in prog catalogs in the early 90s. At some point it went out of print which is too bad. I'll try to listen to some of it on youtube. I know the late Geoff Mann was involved and apparently they were a kind of neo-prog supergroup but beyond that I don't know much about them.

Yes, that is how I remember them being presented in my prog magazine: a kind of a prog supergroup, with much attention for Clive Nolan (who is actually not one of my favourites...), but I found Geoff Mann the most appealing of them all and giving the soul to the music. Nolan already had a tendency to explore the prog clichés a bit too much... (also with Pendragon, imho)

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by PhideauxFan PhideauxFan wrote:

I had the CD many years ago. I didn't like the singer so I sold it.

Well then you probably won't like Twelfth Night either because it's the same singer. Come to think of it you should probably also stay away from Peter Hammill, VDGG and the band Discipline. Wink
You're right for Twelfth Night. I only have/like Live At The Target. But you're wrong for VDGG, Discipline and Matthew Parmenter (I have some CDs) and I've also got albums of Eyestrings with his nephew Ryan Parmenter. 
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Originally posted by PhideauxFan PhideauxFan wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by PhideauxFan PhideauxFan wrote:

I had the CD many years ago. I didn't like the singer so I sold it.

Well then you probably won't like Twelfth Night either because it's the same singer. Come to think of it you should probably also stay away from Peter Hammill, VDGG and the band Discipline. Wink
You're right for Twelfth Night. I only have/like Live At The Target. But you're wrong for VDGG, Discipline and Matthew Parmenter (I have some CDs) and I've also got albums of Eyestrings with his nephew Ryan Parmenter. 

Which Eyestrings do you have? I have one and it's not too good.

I'm surprised you feel that way because they all have very similar sounding voices imo. In fact Geoff Mann (RIP) has been accused of sounding too much like Peter Hammill to some.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Which Eyestrings do you have? I have one and it's not too good.

Eyestrings sounds like Rush compared to Ryan's solo debut CD from the '90s, called Helvetica. That was one of those instances where I thought it was a mispressing. Nope, it wasn't.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by PhideauxFan PhideauxFan wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by PhideauxFan PhideauxFan wrote:

I had the CD many years ago. I didn't like the singer so I sold it.

Well then you probably won't like Twelfth Night either because it's the same singer. Come to think of it you should probably also stay away from Peter Hammill, VDGG and the band Discipline. Wink
You're right for Twelfth Night. I only have/like Live At The Target. But you're wrong for VDGG, Discipline and Matthew Parmenter (I have some CDs) and I've also got albums of Eyestrings with his nephew Ryan Parmenter. 

Which Eyestrings do you have? I have one and it's not too good.

I'm surprised you feel that way because they all have very similar sounding voices imo. In fact Geoff Mann (RIP) has been accused of sounding too much like Peter Hammill to some.
I have the two albums of Eyestrings. And I really like Consumption, which is the style of Discipline.
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If anyone is interested, I came across a digital download, available to purchase on Bandcamp through the Twelfth Night store.


https://twelfthnightuk.bandcamp.com/album/casino-only-6-in-our-winter-sale
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Originally posted by PhideauxFan PhideauxFan wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by PhideauxFan PhideauxFan wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by PhideauxFan PhideauxFan wrote:

I had the CD many years ago. I didn't like the singer so I sold it.

Well then you probably won't like Twelfth Night either because it's the same singer. Come to think of it you should probably also stay away from Peter Hammill, VDGG and the band Discipline. Wink
You're right for Twelfth Night. I only have/like Live At The Target. But you're wrong for VDGG, Discipline and Matthew Parmenter (I have some CDs) and I've also got albums of Eyestrings with his nephew Ryan Parmenter. 

Which Eyestrings do you have? I have one and it's not too good.

I'm surprised you feel that way because they all have very similar sounding voices imo. In fact Geoff Mann (RIP) has been accused of sounding too much like Peter Hammill to some.
I have the two albums of Eyestrings. And I really like Consumption, which is the style of Discipline.

I have the first one which I think is kind of weak. Not horrible but just didn't do a whole lot for me. Maybe some good moments. 
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