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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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This thread is inspired by this post by our esteemed Dr Wu and a couple of recent threads and posts. Neo prog seems alive and kicking, but not that much talked about. My personal affinities are much with those original neo prog bands: Marillion, Twelfth Night, Pallas, IQ... It is the period (my adolescence) when I started to consciously listen to music and develop my preferences. I must admit that I'm very much a neo prog fan of the 80s and cannot find that much originality in the more recent outings that are listed in the PA's top 250 of Neo prog bands, including the more recent outings of the bands I mentioned... Nevertheless, there is some awesome music overall to explore in this category, so let's share!
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43213 |
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I can't remember the first Neo Prog album I ever listened to in full as it's too long ago now. Well, about three years ago anyway. I do remember the first Neo Prog CD I ever bought though, as that was only last year, and it's #26 on PA's Top 250 Neo Prog Albums list.
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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^ My first neo prog album was undoubtedly Marillion's Script For a Jester's Tear (the second or third vinyl I bought, starting my collection), probably in 1984. Discovered Fugazi after that and was even more conquered. Heard Pendragon on the radio, but it is mostly thanks to the Dutch Sym Info magazine (and the local library!) that I got acquainted with bands like Pallas, Twelfth Night, IQ...
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early neo-prog 1982
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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^ Thanks! Wonderful tracks indeed. I only discovered them one or two years after their release, but they were part of my early neo prog explorations. Soon after Script... I bought the 12" with Three Boats... and especially Grendel ! Regarding IQ, it was The Wake that was my entry point; got Tales From the Lush Attic soon afterwards...
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43213 |
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I have a feeling IQ's Tales from the Lush Attic may have been the first Neo Prog album I ever listened to in full, seeing as IQ were the first Neo Prog band featured on my Prog Britannia blog around three years ago.
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9872 |
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My first neo-prog band was definitely Marillion - Script For A Jester’s Tear followed closely by Pendragon, Twelfth Night, IQ & Pallas and there’s some of the more newer neo-progressive bands.
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20650 |
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Based on the Neo Prog page here Marillion would be the band I heard first in that style...the first 2 lps.
After that I discovered IQ, Magenta, Pendragon, Arena, Pallas, etc......IQ is my favorite by far these days . The last 4 by them are my favorite neo prog lps.........others are Magenta -7, Arena-Peppers Ghost, Pendragon-Masquerade Overture, ...etc. |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29332 |
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Would have first heard Marillion - Grendel back in the day. IQ came later. I was never remotely interested in any of the other bands until the 90's and 00's. Arena have punched a sizeable hole in the genre and I recently discovered Collage. Pendragons Love over Fear is a mostly overlooked gem. Starfish and The Moon was one of the songs that got me through lock down so I have particular affection for that album.
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BrufordFreak ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 25 2008 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 8407 |
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Methinks that since the 80s the atmospheric backgrounds to NeoProg musics have become more lush. It must be in the underlying/domineering use of some effect like reverb or sustain. (My brother was the engineering master of our recordings so I am not as fluent in the lingua sonique.)
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PhideauxFan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 14 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 4579 |
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When I read Enfer-Magazine (France) (hard-rock/heavy-metal), I saw for the first time the terms; "rock néo-progressif". So I bought the cassette Fugazi by Marillion, but I didn't like it and gave it (with The Wall) to a friend.
I think that I have about 50 CDs of neo-progressive rock from the 80's to nowadays. For me the best periods of this genre are the 80's and the 90's. And if you want great "new" neo-progressive rock, listen to DeeExpus - The King Of Number 33 (UK).
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7859 |
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80’s Neo is on another level. Sorry. You can’t f**k with it. It is the best era.
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43213 |
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One of my favourite Neo Prog bands of the moment: La Tulipe Noire from Greece - not Holland.
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Prog-jester ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5908 |
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I bought Marillion's Script 2CD remaster on August 1st, 2003. I lived in a small provincial Ukrainian town and I was 16. Literally not a single person could understand my obsession with this music, not even my dad, a huge Beatles/Urian Heep/Deep Purple fan, who taught me to play guitar (he was in pop/rock bands in Soviet times).
By 2003 I'd already written like coupla hundred songs (again, for nobody, just for myself), but only after hearing Script I decided I wanna be in music for real. It wasn't easy but now my main band has 167k monthly listeners on Spotify and one of my side-projects is literally an early Marillion clone, hehe: Another favourite of mine genre-wise is Clive Nolan's Shadowland - Ring Of Roses is a masterpiece and MUST get a vinyl release! |
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 52496 |
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Like others, my first neo prog album was Marillion's debut album which I only discovered in the mid-1990s. At the time I didn't even know there was such a thing as neo prog and just assumed it was a continuation of a style perfected by Genesis and Yes (I didn't know about Camel at the time). The internet as we know it today was in its infancy, but I probably discovered "neo prog" as a term to describe this on the old Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock (GEPR) website. Marillion obviously led me to Arena, IQ, and Pendragon, and then to more obscure bands like Abraxas, Galleon, Flamborough Head, Tale Cue, Afterglow, Osiris, Cyan, Atria, Now, Egdon Heath, Cliffhanger, and East.
I don't think I cared much for the "hardening" of the neo prog sound in the early 2000s where some bands tried to fuse it with pseudo-prog-metal riffs. A few seemed to pull that off rather well, but for many of them, the change was a bit too much for me. Not that I have any issues with bands evolving beyond their neo prog foundations. Marillion is a great example of a band that has become more eclectic over time, and as such, has been a joy to listen to their evolution over five decades.
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Prog-jester ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5908 |
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There were also bands that I discovered and didn't quite enjoyed - Cyan, Casino, Galahad, Cliffhanger, Violet Disctrict, Gazpacho (Night is great tho), Sylvan, RPWL, Galadriel, Theatre/Moongarden, Satellite, La Tulipe Noire (Shattered Image is great tho), Jadis, Millenium, Ageness, The Vow, Harnakis, Arrakeen, Deyss, Metaphor - but hey, to each his own I guess |
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Jared ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 20278 |
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Do yourself a favour and give the re-recording/ re-write of their debut, 'For King & Country' a listen when you have time... it's rather a treat!
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7859 |
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Nice stories, Gents
I have to say I owe a ton to PA for its dense data base, which rabbit holed the sh*t out of me. For all that I discovered IQ and Arena while Fish Era Marillion are the bands that really agree with me the most. Anyhow. This site has been amazing and with people like yourselves on here, have been a great help. |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Prog-jester ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5908 |
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thanks, will do in spring! For some reason neo-prog works best for me in March/April or September/October ![]() |
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Marillion Script back then
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