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David_D
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An A-Z list may be a bit overwhelming in this case.
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David_D
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But it might be interesting to discuss. |
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Agree with you 100%, Mike. The question is how can we convince David and the others that progressive rock didn't exist in true, real, full blown form in the 60s besides KC? I am going to try one last time. Many artists, bands were called progressive in the 60s, it doesn't mean they played, composed and recorded progressive rock songs. Bob Dylan was called progressive artist in the 60s because of his lyrics. Miles Davis was called progressive. One of the most influential jazz musician of all time, why not call him progressive (moving forward, groundbreaking). It doesn't mean he was a progressive rock artist. Days of Future Passed by many considered first progressive rock album, but why? People, there is nothing proggy about this album. Innovative, groundbreaking, yes, but this is not progressive rock or symphonic rock. Bunch of well written, beautiful pop-rock songs, with psychedelic influences, mixed in with classical interludes performed by London Festival Orchestra. The orchestra and the band never played together, they were never in the recording studio together. The classical pieces were arranged by Peter Knight, the orchestra's conductor. And you call this album first symphonic rock album ever? C'mon! One of the most influential 60s album, yes definitely. I believe in early 2000s, Deram reissued early Moody Bluess albums. They all come with bonus tracks and the insert included the interview with one of the members of the band. Justin Hayward was asked by interviewer "were you ever considered yourselves as progressive rock band? His answer was no, we were never part of progressive rock movement. I guess people are confused by the term proto-progreesive. The term means that the artist / band might influenced other bands to become progressive rock bands and were essential to the development of progressive rock. It doesn't mean that the band itself was or become later progressive rock band. The Beatles were the most influential bands of the 60s. They never played progressive rock or become one. The same with Moody Blues, Procol Harum, the Nice and the rest of the 60s bands mentioned in this thread except for King Crimson. Edited by enigmatic - January 11 2023 at 12:32 |
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That is indeed interesting. Can you also tell who wrote those "classical interludes/pieces"? |
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Some of them by Peter Knight, some by him + Moody Blues member. Wiki has all the details under "Track Listing" section.
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One more post that maybe better explains what I tried to explain above: the difference between "progressive" used as an adjective and progressive rock (style of music). This was written by HolyMoly, retired PA admin in 2013:
"There is a distinction between "prog" the style and "progressive" the adjective. That said, I've been a lifelong Moody Blues fan (literally; I was listening to them daily at age 4) and I see their first four (not counting the Denny Laine period, natch) albums as crucial building blocks for what would become "prog" the style (exemplified by Crimson's first album). However, I do believe that all of their "big seven" albums are progressive (the adjective). Subtle difference, but one I've come to accept here." Edited by enigmatic - January 11 2023 at 14:36 |
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David D...I stand corrected. In Held Twas In I does in fact have music characteristics of Progressive Rock. I never thought Robin Trower was a Progressive Rock guitarist, but the rest of the band seem to produce a Progressive Rock style in that piece...but I'm probably thinking of Progressive Rock to be more along the lines of Steve Howe, Rick Wakeman, Chris Squire, Keith Emerson, Robert Fripp, Bill Bruford, and Michael Giles..which that style of playing didn't seem to exist in the music of Procol Harum. I'm definitely thinking more about the style that the aforementioned played in the early 70s. But I'm being one sided about that and yes you are correct about this.. |
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Actually, that's AFKC. The first part is for "A flower?" which of course was a line in Supper's Ready.
As to whether my answer is good or not depends on whether someone feels there was a lot of true (or real prog) in that decade. I'm ok with whatever as long as the Moody Blues and The Nice fit in there somewhere. Also, I don't necessarily think that "the red faced guy" album was the very first prog album but it was probably the first official one.
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^ No, definitely not.God, I beg you, say something, anything? No? Okay, maybe next David's thread solves anything on this site.😉
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^ Oh yes my friend: one of the tightest, most inspired rock-fusion bands of the era... even their hits were progressive - - K I C K A S S ! Edited by Atavachron - January 11 2023 at 22:07 |
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My A-Z of the Most Influential Sixties Bands (subject to discussion)
A - The Animals B - The Beatles C - Cream D - The Doors E - Edgar Broughton Band F - Free G - Grateful Dead H - Jimi Hendrix Experience I - Iron Butterfly J - Jefferson Airplane K - King Crimson L - Led Zeppelin M - The Moody Blues N - The Nice O - Orpheus (USA) P - Pink Floyd Q - Quicksilver Messenger Service R - The Rolling Stones S - Spirit T - Traffic U - Ultimate Spinach V - Vanilla Fudge W - The Who X - Xhol Caravan Y - The Yardbirds Z - The Zombies
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Frankly speaking, I'm not sure what to think - my OP question can be viewed and tried to answer from several different perspectives. But I like the idea of ItCotCK being the first full blown Progressive Rock album.
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I've got an idea for a thread which you might be the best man to run: "Your Top 10 of the Most Influential Sixties Bands"
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My hopes for "my" threads are more like good discussions than solutions - but maybe a part of the basis for some good solutions. Edited by David_D - January 12 2023 at 07:33 |
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Great list, Paul. I am not familiar with Orpheus (USA), but I wouldn't be able to suggest any other influential band with a name starting with a letter "O". Edited by enigmatic - January 12 2023 at 09:39 |
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Thanks! Here's a list of six British Psychedelic Rock bands beginning with the letter "O" who are even more obscure than Orpheus. 1969: Octopus - Restless Night - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCr5GCgiM7pZsEQsonE6TyISJSSAHB2bt 1969: The Open Mind - The Open Mind - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_niMtBPdXLnBhA38aPchHkn-vqNpF1nNbA 1969: One - One - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peI71PYgzqs 1971: Open Road - Windy Daze - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kqM-1B9NoHQcILgrrgFhfYReqW_WuWL6o 2009: The Onyx - Kaleidoscope of Colours - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLUvk66O2BM 1968: One in a Million - Double Sight - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3sCvymB1_w
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Hmmm....tough question considering ,as many have said , there really weren't many people doing 'full blown' prog then. The Nice and East of Eden were prog rock to my ears and Zappa on Hot Rats... and are listed that way here... Moody Blues and Procol are listed as 'crossover'.
KC's debut works for me for lack of a better choice ,but hell it came out in Oct 1969...the 60's were gone by then. Maybe best prog band of the 70's is a more relevant question..? |
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Sixties? Nobody was progressive except the jazz guys. Yeah OK maybe Abbey Road.
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