Symphonic metal.

Yet another topic on what is or what isn’t. Symphonic, Progressive genres. Right in the context of the original question and any other examples you’ll never get a true definition of who is or who isn’t considered to belong within a genre. As each person has their own definition of who or who isn’t a factor in the genre. So just stop trying and allow yourself to decide who is or isn’t in. Your own choices.

See if you can find the song "Ulice_Rozpaczy" by Polish band Panzerfaust.  It might be in here.

Symphonic Metal Playlist

Aesma Daeva (United States)

After Forever (Netherlands)

Amberian Dawn (Finland) 

Apocalyptica (Finland)

Autumn (Netherlands)

Avantasia (Germany)

Coronatus (Germany)

Delain (Netherlands)

Diabulus in Musica (Spain)

Edenbridge (Austria)

Epica (Netherlands)

Imperia (Multi-National)

Kamelot (United States)

Kingfisher Sky (Netherlands)

Leaves' Eyes (Norway)

Lunatica (Switzerland)

Nightwish (Finland)

Rhapsody of Fire (Italy)

Serenity (Austria)

Sirenia (Norway)

Therion (Sweden)

Tristania (Norway)

Visions of Atlantis (Austria)

Within Temptation (Netherlands)

Xandria (Germany)

Edited by Psychedelic Paul - November 18 2022 at 01:24

Edited by edefakiel - November 18 2022 at 14:48

Okay first of all, I'm a native English speaker and the last title was better. Maybe "truly symphonic metal," or" metal that is actually symphonic" would be better -- it's tounge-in-cheek. It's fine.

It seems, however, that you're not looking for "truly symphonic metal," rather "epic progressive metal that is not cheesy," which I think is the best title

Let's put this to the test... What do you think of Lör:
https://halloflor.bandcamp.com/album/in-forgotten-sleep

or Ne Obliscaris:
https://neobliviscaris.bandcamp.com/album/portal-of-i

They're not symphonic per say (hence why I didn't embed it) but I think you'll love it anyway.

If you like this, well, let's just say we're going to have a field day my friend. You and I.

Regarding the production of Aeternam, yeah I hate it. It's hard to listen to the last song because it's so noisy. Really bad with there imo. But it still beats Fledhgod Apocalypse's (FGA) brickwall. Imo, Wilderun's Epigone is poorly produced, too. It seems this genre is very hard to produce well, unfortunately. Hopefully it gets better as it becomes more popular.

In any case, for some more "truly symphonic metal" that is not "epic progressive metal that is not cheesy," I'm going to embed a single from Epica's newest album. It's a collab with FGA:


Ignoring Simone's melodic operatic, and rather boring soprano vocals on here, this is what FGA would sound like (kind of) if they didn't f**king brickwall their music. See how awesome it is when you can actually make out what's going on? The song "Death is not the End" is good, too. Epica's newest album Omega is pretty good, too this regard, if you don't mind the pop-rock approach as they usually take (it seems that's why you don't like "operatic metal"). Give the first three tracks a listen on that one

I don't think you'll like it, but let's try Ex Libris's Anastasia Romanov, as well. It's more "Epican," but much more progressive. This is part of a trilogy of EPs along with Anne Boleyn and Anne Frank, the latter of which is also really symphonic and good, but the former... not so much:



I also posted this in your "maximalist" post from earlier, but it's totally relevant here, too:



I don't know how much you like doom metal but here is The Otolith. They're more "truly orchestral metal" than "truly symphonic metal," but I think they're great:



I'll give more "Epic Progressive Metal that is not Cheesy" later on if you like Lör and Ne Oblivisvaris and I'll try to keep them, too

Edited by bardberic - November 20 2022 at 01:10

edefakiel wrote: I love Ne Obliviscaris. Particularly the first and the second album. From Lör I remember listening Edge of Eternity, and I thought that it was kind of not that interesting. This one, though, it is pretty amazing, maybe I should give another chance to the other one. They kind of remind me to this: https://iomair.bandcamp.com/album/fishing-for-an-apparition That last thing rocks hard. I was listening to Epica's Omega the other day, but it wasn't my thing particularly. I will listen the rest. I already listened to Imperial Circus Dead Decadence when you posted it in the other thread, but I don't remember them.

Well Iomair was going to be my next recommendation anyway. In Forgotten is a lot more interesting than Edge of Eternity, honestly, I think.

Edited by bardberic - November 20 2022 at 11:09

Kauan

edefakiel wrote: Cristi wrote: Kauan https://kauan.bandcamp.com/album/kuu-2 This is much better than Ice Fleet. Which I listened to the other day.

I was listening to Symphony X a couple of days ago.

Edited by edefakiel - December 03 2022 at 08:34