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Robert De Niro's Waiting (for your vote), Talking Italian, Talking Italian.....


2 stars 1969: Sam's Song (aka. The Swap) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6JjpWeUACU
2 stars 1973: Bang the Drum Slowly - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_pijVRzGMo
4 stars 1973: Mean Streets
3 stars 1974: The Godfather, Part 2
5 stars 1976: Taxi Driver 
                 1976: 1900 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7op5o9u4A
3 stars 1977: New York, New York


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 The first two Godfather movies are nearly flawless so it's had for me to vote for anything else when one of those are in play.  After Godfather II on this list I would go with Taxi Driver & the Deer Hunter. 
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Ricky Gervais doesn't believe Robert de Niro's waiting, and he's talking Italian too. Tongue

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"Taxi Driver" for me here with "The Deer Hunter" and "New York, New York" close behind (but not that close). 

I have never warmed to De Niros gangster movie roles, or gangster movies in general for that matter.
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1900 by miles
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Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

1900 by miles

That's the only one I haven't seen. Embarrassed


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Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

1900 by miles

That's the only one I haven't seen. Embarrassed

I saw it when it was first released in cinemas and found it really tough going, as good as DeNiro is in it.
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Most of these guys did their best work in the 70s. De Niro, Nicholson, Pacino, etc..

"Taxi Driver" because he's playing a supporting character in Godfather II, which I love as well. Best sequel ever. But Marlon Brando will always be "The Godfather" to me.
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I like those hippy late-60's or early 70's film d'auteur (ala The Trip, Easy Rider, Model Shop or Zabriskie), so I prefer The Swap or Born To Win to the later big productions like Godfather Deer Hunter, Taxi or Raging Bull. 
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Not that fan of de Niro.. but from the list, I like his acting best on 'The Deer Hunter'.
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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

1900 by miles

That's the only one I haven't seen. Embarrassed

I saw it when it was first released in cinemas and found it really tough going, as good as DeNiro is in it.

Hi,

It's a Bertolucci film ... and often the hard part in some of his films, is that they can be slow and sometimes a bit confusing, but they manage to make it through really well. The film itself, has Vittorio Storaro for cinematography and then Ennio Morricone for music ... and that is ... not to mention the insane cast ... a very high level of folks all around, which I'm sure Robert would have appreciated, even as an actor. 

I like Michael Cimino's The Deerhunter ... and his directing is incredible in this film, although it really is not exactly one of the most enjoyable things to watch, and sometimes it just ... comes off plain rough ... probably intentionally so, and something that Michael also did in his next film that few people like (Heaven's Gate), which is almost the same manner but in a different jungle ... one stolen by the authorities and government ... a piece of history as bad as what happened to all the native Americans that disappeared and were chased down!

In many ways, I find these films more important, but that is not to say that some of the others don't cut it. I guess I find that the stuff where Robert can "disappear" and just do his job is much better than the stuff where he is the top dog, and is supposed to shine above everyone else.

I have to admit that I have never really been a "fan" of the Godfather films at all! Aside from Brando's work, I find the whole thing a bit too much!



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^ I think you make some fair points here. "The Deer Hunter" can indeed be hard going for some people, however I found a connection with it that I couldn't find with "1900".

Perhaps it has something to do with the subject matter, "1900" being an almost hysterical anti-fascist screed whereas "The Deer Hunter" is at its core about the power of friendship.


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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

^ I think you make some fair points here. "The Deer Hunter" can indeed be hard going for some people, however I found a connection with it that I couldn't find with "1900".

Perhaps it has something to do with the subject matter, "1900" being an almost hysterical anti-fascist screed whereas "The Deer Hunter" is at its core about the power of friendship.



Both films are wayayayayay toooooo looooooong, IMHO.

yes TDH is unbearable in the torture dept.
1900 is a pure yawner. 


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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

^ I think you make some fair points here. "The Deer Hunter" can indeed be hard going for some people, however I found a connection with it that I couldn't find with "1900".

Perhaps it has something to do with the subject matter, "1900" being an almost hysterical anti-fascist screed whereas "The Deer Hunter" is at its core about the power of friendship.



The film 1900 makes a lot more sense in Europe than here. The political situation in Italy, Spain and Portugal (as a great example) with its fascist rulers, made for a lot of material for film. You could not say the same thing for Hollywood, and America, who undertook to the colorful scrims and a song to make it look far out and dream of stardom. The notion of "stardom" in the 50's in Europe and into the 60's was kind of crazy and even ridiculous, given that the media in those 3 countries (not to mention the Communist ones!!!) made sure that such thing never got an inch of value or attention.

The Deerhunter, I agree with you, is about something that is difficult to live through many times but is appreciated a lot more than we often give it credit for. 

I think that a lot of European film has a lot more material having to do with the social content, a lot more than the individual content ... and I guess that affects me more, as an European (Portuguese) and I still have the anti-establishment sentiment and you know why ... the government in those days was the worst thing ever, and the only real enemy, that lied and made sure that they changed all context to make it look like they were not only in charge, but also the law, which gave many folks in there the upper hand since they thought of themselves as above the law!


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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

^ I think you make some fair points here. "The Deer Hunter" can indeed be hard going for some people, however I found a connection with it that I couldn't find with "1900".

Perhaps it has something to do with the subject matter, "1900" being an almost hysterical anti-fascist screed whereas "The Deer Hunter" is at its core about the power of friendship.



Both films are wayayayayay toooooo looooooong, IMHO.

yes TDH is unbearable in the torture dept.
1900 is a pure yawner. 


Hi,

I have never thought of anything in life as "too long" and that also goes for us as people, too!

Life is not something that we count down to a certain amount of time, in my book ... and this has been a theme in one of my novels when one person discusses herself and then then is given a thought ... a life is not one moment ... a life is from the day you were born to the day you were done. If all you remember is 5 minutes of it, you have lost most of your life and have no perspective.

A lot of folks disliked my review of "LA BELLE NOISEUSSE" a film that was 4 hours long, and half the folks at the Portland International Film Festival walked out on the film before intermission ... and all it tells you is that the beauty of watching a hand CREATE a piece of work was completely missed or (likely) just not wanted because we live in a throwaway society that dumps as fast as it creates!

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And almost all of the reviews and work that I do, is about that internal light and where it might come from ... without there is no life worth living!!!!!

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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

^ I think you make some fair points here. "The Deer Hunter" can indeed be hard going for some people, however I found a connection with it that I couldn't find with "1900".

Perhaps it has something to do with the subject matter, "1900" being an almost hysterical anti-fascist screed whereas "The Deer Hunter" is at its core about the power of friendship.



Both films are wayayayayay toooooo looooooong, IMHO.

yes TDH is unbearable in the torture dept.
1900 is a pure yawner. 


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Yes, I think that "The Deer Hunter" could have done with some trimming. Part of the problem is the pacing. The wedding scene drags on longer than it has to and then, wham we are in Vietnam and things move very quickly until the main character gets back home and it slows down again and so on.

"1900" as well as being too long was for me just an unpleasant experience.

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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

^ I think you make some fair points here. "The Deer Hunter" can indeed be hard going for some people, however I found a connection with it that I couldn't find with "1900".

Perhaps it has something to do with the subject matter, "1900" being an almost hysterical anti-fascist screed whereas "The Deer Hunter" is at its core about the power of friendship.



The film 1900 makes a lot more sense in Europe than here. The political situation in Italy, Spain and Portugal (as a great example) with its fascist rulers, made for a lot of material for film. You could not say the same thing for Hollywood, and America, who undertook to the colorful scrims and a song to make it look far out and dream of stardom. The notion of "stardom" in the 50's in Europe and into the 60's was kind of crazy and even ridiculous, given that the media in those 3 countries (not to mention the Communist ones!!!) made sure that such thing never got an inch of value or attention.

The Deerhunter, I agree with you, is about something that is difficult to live through many times but is appreciated a lot more than we often give it credit for. 

I think that a lot of European film has a lot more material having to do with the social content, a lot more than the individual content ... and I guess that affects me more, as an European (Portuguese) and I still have the anti-establishment sentiment and you know why ... the government in those days was the worst thing ever, and the only real enemy, that lied and made sure that they changed all context to make it look like they were not only in charge, but also the law, which gave many folks in there the upper hand since they thought of themselves as above the law!



To me it seemed like the European film makers of the '50's and '60's had an almost maniacal obsession with making their films all about anti-fascism whilst completely ignoring any so called entertainment value, and whilst I think that in itself is a noble and worthwhile thing, in the end I don't like to feel I'm being preached at.

Guillermo Del Toro learnt this and was able to make movies that were both anti-fascist and watchable, "Pans Labyrinth" being the culmination of this

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Yes, I think that "The Deer Hunter" could have done with some trimming. Part of the problem is the pacing. The wedding scene drags on longer than it has to and then, wham we are in Vietnam and things move very quickly until the main character gets back home and it slows down again and so on.
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Hi,

I really think that the wedding scene dragging so long is quite intentional. 1) We will go to our daughters (or sons) weddings only to come out ... gawd ... that's too long! 2) The comparative idea is that if the wedding is "too long" ... how you gonna feel when the war is even longer? for me, as a reviewer, I tend to think that this is an intentional thing.

Likewise, in Michael's next film, he did the same thing with the foreigners being killed off one by one ... until their "fight" is over, so the militia (government folks!) can now own the land they are trying to steal! In one difficult, but scary shot, the camera does a 360 in the middle of the battle with people falling all around ... and you know the intent and idea behind the whole thing ... it's scary, it's bad ... and you know it's over.
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