Roger Waters - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Alas, Roger has revealed himself (yet again) to be a Grade A1 Fruit Cake.

If anyone's taken the trouble to read the letter he sent to Elena Zelenskaya, it comes across that he is some kind of nutcase. (I'm reminded of David Icke, to be honest.)

It's always difficult to separate the musician from the music - and I'm reminded of Ginger Baker and Eric Clapton as examples of awful human beings but great musicians - but there comes a time when you have to boycott someone's music and I think Roger Waters has crossed that line for me.

Davesax1965 wrote:

Alas, Roger has revealed himself (yet again) to be a Grade A1 Fruit Cake.

If anyone's taken the trouble to read the letter he sent to Elena Zelenskaya, it comes across that he is some kind of nutcase. (I'm reminded of David Icke, to be honest.)

It's always difficult to separate the musician from the music - and I'm reminded of Ginger Baker and Eric Clapton as examples of awful human beings but great musicians - but there comes a time when you have to boycott someone's music and I think Roger Waters has crossed that line for me.

Wouldn't count Waters as a "great musician" (I mean he's not even close to being a virtuoso in any instrument), but a man of many ideas (as all Floyd members were).

And I'm quite sure, that outside his political opinions and his feud with Gilmour, he's a very decent dude - far away from being an "awful HB".

That's why the "spitting incident" in Montreal shocked him so bad, that he wrote The Wall.

Apparently Waters is a really nice employer, knowing the names and surnames and family situation of everyone of his crew and always finding time for a few minutes for a chat. He even goes out of his way to say hello to someone some 20/30 meters away from him. How many of us can say that?

But yeah, as I stated a couple of post above, he's either very naïve or has a disproportionate sense of self-grandeur (or self importance) in this matter, sending letters to belligerents with atomic weapons.

But then again, someone once said (Einstein, probably?) that the world was not going to detroyed by vilains, but by those who watch them do it and did nothing to stop it.

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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword

^ Your opinion is very important to Roger. LOL

Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)

Roger Waters was very hospitable to this nutty disc jockey, wearing the red bootleg Pink Floyd t-shirt I had bought from CREEM magazine. he invited me into his dressing room for a chat, offered me a glass of the very nice white wine he was drinking, and we talked about Syd. 1975, the Los Angeles Sports Arena, with Los Angeles Police in the parking lot confronting students, unknown to us at the time... very pleasant as was time spent with Nick Mason & Richard Wright. only David was mannered with a polite introduction, then off & away from his mates. Roger was later also very sociable & kind during the RADIO KAOS show at the Forum in Inglewood, where he posed for a dozen photos which I have never seen. I've attended many other of his solo shows since, but felt it was unnecessary to do the after-concert schmooze after having such good initial meetings.

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Couldn't the same be said of Dave minus the politics?

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy

I suppose 'ruined' depends on what one thinks ruined Floyd. It's true Waters probably caused the most tension, but I would also say AMLoR is among their more predictable and tedious releases.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy

One does get the sense they could've kept doing some good things musically, but frankly I suspect they had ten or twelve good years in them which is just about right for a band that epic & legendary.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy

The Dark Elf wrote:

NotAProghead wrote:

^ Your opinion is very important to Roger. LOL

His opinions are meaningless drivel to me. So I guess we're even.

His meaningless words are the rankings of his needs for attention. His just like the U2 guy full of drivel most of the time.

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I still think that we must kick Putin in the a$$, but I can't say that Roger is wrong. Now that in Italy we have a female version of Pinky in charge.

I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution

I can't wait for Roger's memoirs.

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