May we talk about the war in Europe?

Anyway, I remind you that months ago Chomsky signed an international appeal that very harshly condemned the Russian invasion and claimed to defend Ukraine.

I don't know how we can discuss anything these days ... which reminds me ... 

In 1968, I was suspended from school (or 1967 not sure!) ... why?

The history teacher (also the football coach btw, who hated soccer kickers!!!) was having a "discussion in class about the whole thing ... and I was kinda stunned and did not say anything. But the next day I brought to the school the latest Paris Match (can't even remember its proper name) and the London Times from that week ... and both of them had large headlines ... Israel Invades .... !!!

And I showed them to the class and to the teacher. He was furious and even called me an Israel hater. As if that was the case, but the point was ... the news was screwed up and we would never get any proper information. 

Likewise, in Ukraine, with the bombing only reporting building this and hospital that and how many civilian casualties there were, I can't help thinking how much of it is also stilted towards the end that makes the Russians look worse. Not to say that they are not that, but trying to be an Imperialist in the 21st Century, should have been dealt with already and him removed from the office, anyway ... but the news in Moscow is just as bad, in the opposite end of the spectrum ... which makes it difficult for anyone to believe anything and agree on anything else.

I miss the early days of CNN and how it was unbiased and clean, compared to the crap that news has become these days, owned by corporate entities that tell you what to say and such. Like Disney is the law at ESPN, and the group has no backbone anymore and they should all have walked out to force business deals to get broken and Disney to lose the group! NOOOOOOO ... we Americans sell out too easy and don't care that Apple gets its materials made in places where employees get a nickel ... and we say nothing ... and their news say that their employees get more ... than the average, which is probably 6 cents! Whhooooppppeeeedoooo ... and do we give a damn? Nope ... we still buy the Apple stuff as supposedly better!

I don't think we can find/have a meaningful discussion on all this ... without so many of us whining about this and that, and Roger, and then trying hard to counter what was said ... which is (obviously) largely ignored in all circles, except this thread! 

Jared wrote: Speaking personally, I don't think this is at all a good idea and I hope an Admin comes along and closes this thread down. Over the years, far too many political threads on this site have very quickly become over-heated and the worst side of forum members have shown through.

And so what? Shouldn't grown up people be allowed to discuss and argue an existential threat - because it makes you uncomfortable? Why don't you simply stay away from these discussions like I do? At least wait until someone actually crosses the line.

Even during the cold war, no journalist was neutral or objective.

Journalism is reporting straight facts, not interpreting them to give them a slant.

Today's young journalists don't even know how to do the job properly (because they copy-pasted some texts somewhere >> not that this cheating didn't happen before Windows arrived, but at least the cheaters had to read and rewrite/paraphrase the job they were copying, which meant that at least, they knew something about the subject) and add their own feelings in there - which is somewhat unfortunately allowed for a private press company (since they are profit-driven and cater to a certain readership), but not for state/public-owned organisms.

The ethics for journalism in the last decades has really diminished and some see activism as something positive in their role or reporter. 

The worst part is when journalists started interviewing (roughly during the 80's) other journalist, pretending they are "experts". Of course, some of them journalists became stars.

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