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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2162 |
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Mila-13 shared a group of widely ranging genres from across the pond. I enjoyed listening and pondering over them.
The Young Gods - Kissing the Sun I’m surprised this is 1980s because It seems more like 1990s to 2000s. I enjoy listening to this style when I do aerobic exercise like running. It reminds me of the driving soundtrack to Run, Lola, Run or the Josh Harris mix titled Distortion on the Dance floor. It’ll keep you going when you can’t go anymore. Dawda Jobarthe & Stefan Pasborg: A Change Has Come Interesting sounds that reminded me a bit of a bouzouki or oud, but actually more like a qanun at times. So, I had to look up Kora and it looks more like a bouzouki but seems to sound more like a qanun. In my travels, I fell in love with Mediterranean music, especially stringed instruments. A good example is https://youtu.be/B-0fl_N1KFc by Nawal El Zoghbi. So, I was a bit surprised that it was from Denmark … far from the Med. Learn something new every day. Johanna Burnheart: Silence is Golden Smooth jazz set to avant-garde visuals. I used to play in a jazz band and can appreciate this. There are sophisti-pop elements in there as well, a bit like Sade but more on the experimental side. Now, to decide. I think I’ll go with the Young Gods - Kissing the Sun, because I’ve always had a soft spot for the tragic Icarus. And, I learned of a Swiss band that rocks. Thanks for posting these! |
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Mila-13 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2021 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1555 |
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^ Gary, thanks a lot for your detailed comment, much appreciated! You must be very athletic if you can run to such energetic music like the Young Gods.
![]() As for Dawda Jobarteh & Stefan Pasborg, they are based in Denmark but Jobarteh is from Gambia. The kora is an instrument that is widely used in West Africa, esp. in Mali, Gambia and Senegal. It has 12 strings, that's why it sounds to some extent similar to a lute or harp. But Jobarteh uses an amp in this recording.- Two of the most famous kora players are Seckou Keita and Ballaké Sissoko.- I will soon comment on everyone's music selection, hopefully by the weekend.- I'm glad you like jazz, it's one of my favourite music genres! Which instrument do you play? Thanks for the Nawal El Zoghbi song! Btw. sometime ago we had a poll about music from the Mediterranean region and a poll about Asia that includes also a few Mediterranen countries. If you're interested I can give you the the playlists. Edited by Mila-13 - September 10 2022 at 01:16 |
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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2162 |
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Hi Mila-13
Now that you mention the 12 strings, that makes perfect sense about the harplike (many note) aspect. Interesting! Regarding the Mediterranean and near East music, I would very much like to see those lists, thank you. As far as instruments go, I play electric and classical nylon-stringed guitar. I also enjoy programming electronic music to a certain extent. Mostly, I enjoy composition (especially a good chord progression). The difficult part is trying to somehow approximate what I’m hearing in my head. I really do not enjoy recording. Jazz chords are complex and fun. I like altered chords, interesting chord voicings, chords with missing notes, and mimicking impossible to reach chords by using alternate tunings. I’m impressed by people who can do jazz improvisation because I completely lack that gene, instead building songs note by note. Jazz, to me, is taking the classical structure of music, and then bending and breaking the rules. To that end, I enjoy listening to jazz and fusion greats like Joe Pass, Django Reinhardt, Wes Montgomery, Allan Holdsworth, Stanley Jordan, Phil Keaggy, and Al Di Meola, to name a few. Sadly, some on that list are no longer with us. Well, on to the next grouping! I’m thinking I might actually fulfill my commitment to Logan this time before I get sidetracked again. ![]() |
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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2162 |
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Mathman, serving up some great rock tunes in a good evolutionary progression. Sci Fi Metal - Alternative Guitar Rock - Space Rock. My meandering thoughts are below.
Warrior - Fighting for the Earth Definitely getting the Dio “Last in Line” vibe on this. It’s a relatively simple tune in terms of structure, but what kicks it up several notches is that the vocals are simply amazing, and the guitar solo works well, too. I enjoyed it immensely. I also have a soft spot for sci fi metal. Pretty Maids - Future World from the 1980s still gives me chills. https://youtu.be/dXmTXU5-3AI Here’s something amusing. That Trans X tune is essentially the same progression as Rainbow in the Dark by Dio. A mashup would be: “It’s like a rainbow in the dark! … living on video … just a rainbow in the dark … integrated circuits.” :-) Rust - Not Today This seems like the bridge between grunge and post-punk of the early 2000s. There were a number of interesting bands doing this sort of thing. Deep Blue Something, Semisonic. Not as commercial as the Blink 182, Third Eye Blind folks, not quite as heavy as Foo Fighters or Green Day or Collective Soul. Not quite as punk as Lit or Eve6. This one has a bit more of an Americana feel, with just a toe dipping in the waters of the Blue Mountain, Uncle Tupelo, Son Volt crowd. I like it! Mantra Machine - Andromeda This is neat. I enjoyed its laid back feel. It reminds me a bit of the resonator guitar sound of Hawkwind (that’s going back a bit!) played over a clever groove. Some of the background riffs (scaly bits) are a bit in the vein of King’s X, but dialed back in intensity. All very cool! I think I enjoyed the last one the most. Sad that it has so few views and reviews. But, am happy I got to hear this needle in a haystack! Thanks for bringing them to our attention. |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15151 |
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Thanks a lot for the comments! Much appreciated. I listened to a bit of Placebo at the time but they didn't quite click with me. I may revisit them.
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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Mila
1) Young Gods are very angry and beat up like thugs. I have the impression that they should mature. 2) Jobarteh and Pasborg offer us a very percussive post-rock song that proceeds with great inertia, with a center piece with a very rough guitar and a composition at the limit of the jam session. The most interesting part of this song is the sound of the instruments. In these cases, I miss the singing: if they had managed to fit it with the music they would have done a superlative job. But the piece remains very, very intelligent, refined and inspired, almost a masterpiece. 3) Johanna Burnheart: Silence is Golden - interesting song, also based on the search for new sounds. The best part is the initial instrumental one, then when the singing arrives it doesn't find the right fit but the song proceeds and becomes a disco-dance contaminated with South American sounds (bossanova?). Very good, even if a little too self-indulgent. The second and third song contend for the vote, but the second is more unassailable and homogeneous than the third. |
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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So, I've got a second listen to all of the nominated tracks. Not always easy to make a final choice. I didn't comment yet on Greg's trio (I commented on his first one...): They're all three great listens and nice discoveries, but somehow, to me, they also have each their flaws, to my ears. I love the beginning of the Shibusashirazu Orchestra track, but then - indeed - it gets very busy. A bit too busy, to many notes on a square foot, imo. I very much like Mid-Air Thief track (atmospheric, yes!), but after a kind of climax at just over 5 minutes, what follows doesn't add much to it. On the contrary, it makes it a bit dragging on... A pity, because it really sounds good. Pana-visoin by The Smile is also a good listen, but it has the handicap that it sounds maybe a bit too much like Radiohead (especially the singer seems to imitate Tom Yorke, but maybe he has just a similar voice...). As said, each has it's great qualities, but I'm not over-enthusiastic by them either... My final verdict for all selections: - Lewian: Upon second listen I even appreciated more Shudder to Think, but in the end it is a toss-up between Kante and Stephen Fellows. I'll go with the latter. - Jaketas: For me, the stand out song is Nicolette Larson's one. -Mila: The Young Gods gained upon a second listen, but it remains between Jobarthe & Pasborg and Johanna Burnheart. I'm voting for Jobarthe & Pasborg's track. - mathman: as already stated in my comments, Mantra Machine takes this one away. - jamesbaldwin: La Crus is the stand-out one for me. From Conte and Guccini you have made us listen to better and more original tracks, imo. - Logan: Despite the too long/lingering ending, I'll vote for Mid-Air Thief. It was an interesting new concept for these interactive polls and - of course - a great listen again, overall. Thanks to all!
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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mathman: 1) Warrior: I have a slight suspicion that this is a heavy metal song, do you know the obsessive electric guitar riffs? The shouted singing? 2) Rust: a nice grunge track. Good singing. I like grunge more than heavy for this reason, the singers are more refined. The song lacks the dynamism to be really good, but it remains a nice piece. 3) Post-rock instrumental track, space rock? Very dilated. Which do I prefer? I don't know.... HMMMM ....between the second and third I choose the second piece.
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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Logan
1) Band instrumental track that reaches a very emphatic cacophony after passing from psychedelic folk and space rock. Possibly, a piece like this, performed in the late sixties or seventies would have been less verbose and less pumped up. It remains a very original and syncretic song, very "free" and "freak". 2) Minimalist min-suite, in fact arranged in the opposite way to the previous piece, here the subtle and refined touch, the ethereal sounds, the ecstatic voices are privileged, with the experimental research of dissonant sounds on the border between acoustic and electronic. Very well executed. 3) Atmospheric movie song with good vocal performance, minimalistic, more conventional than previous pieces. All three songs were a listening that created a lot of curiosity. The second wins |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2162 |
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James Baldwin! I found some uninterrupted time to have a listen to your picks.
La Crus: Lontano (1995) I love it! I’m a big fan of trumpet, and this is both sophisticated albeit a bit melancholic. It is difficult to come up with an analogy for this one. Probably the closest song I can come up with is Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty, but that featured a melancholic saxophone. Paulo Conte - Frisco When you say retro, this one is very retro, with perhaps influences from the 1930s to 1960s. This reminds me of post WW2 jazz, like Edith Piaf. Francesco Guccini - L'ultima Thule I really enjoy songs that tell a story (as you can tell from my pick of Dead Man’s Curve). As soon as this one began, I immediately thought of a jaunty seafaring tune. It is a song with a great deal of intensity in the vocals. (By the way, I’m not kidding. I still know all the lyrics to The Devil Went Down to Georgia). Thank you for posting the lyrics! I think the first song probably resonated with me the most, although I really like all 3! |
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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2162 |
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Finally, our host … Logan! Some very interesting pieces here.
Shibusashirazu Orchestra - Akkan There is a great deal of virtuoso playing and the sounds at first hearken back to an ancient time and a faraway place. Then saxophone comes in and I really wasn’t expecting that. Mid-Air Thief - Crumbling Together This is a lovely piece of music. I visited Korea around this time and bought some CDs of K-Pop and traditional music, but this is altogether different. The guitar playing reminds me a bit of Francis Cabrel or Pierre Bensusan. The Smile - Pana-vision At different points in the song, I sense influences of U2, Coldplay, and Radiohead. I’ll go with Mid-Air Thief! It has a New Age-y warmth about it. |
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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2162 |
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Thanks again for the tunes. Nice topic! Votes are now recorded.
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Mila-13 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2021 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1555 |
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Nena
and Indochine, two living legends, wherein the latter is known mostly in the
French speaking world. Along with Noir Désir they are major exponents of French
rock, both bands founded in the early 1980s. I especially enjoyed here your humorous
accompanying backstory, that explains your personal reference to your choices! :)
Kaboom
Karavan is a real find for me! This guy (another talented Belgian) creates a musical universe of his own. With an
experimental approach he combines acoustic instruments and electronics in a quite unique way. I
listened to the entire album and I enjoyed in particular those a bit calmer
tracks where imo the quality of this work comes into its own even better. My
favourite of yours is: Kaboom Karavan. Christian The suggested acts are all new to me. Shudder to Think draw upon a wide range of stylistic influences of rock music, whereby the influence of punk rock with a grungy undertone is clearly recognisable. This style is pretty much down my alley. The musical style of
the chosen track by Stephen Fellows is difficult to assess for me since I’m not
familiar with his former band. This track is designed in a rather minimalistic style. Fellows creates with few means an intimate, laidback and dreamy atmosphere, like in a
solo home recording. I find the style of
Kante’s quietly flowing blend of post and krautrock with German lyrics quite
captivating. The lyrics are poetic and thoughtful and become one with the music
which creates a special atmosphere. My favourite of yours
is: Kante Gary What I like most about
your song selection is that they reflect clearly the sound of the respective decades and this with artists or band that not everyone would know. Well done! I like all your
selections but musically, Nicolette Larson’s song convinces me the most, with
its rich instrumentation and Nicolette’s wonderful voice. No wonder that Neil Young chose her as a duet partner! The song is a successful
blend of pop rock and soul, I would say. This combination is rather rare, especially
because it comes from a ‘white band’. I really like it! My favourite of yours is: Nicolette Larson & Band Btw. Greg's band 'The Smile' is actually the 'new Radiohead'. It's a new project consisting i.a. of Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood. p.s. I will get back to you regarding our conversation above but since I'm a bit late, I would like to post the rest of my comments first. Greg Shibusashirazu Orchestra: There is something going on here, indeed! A big orchestra playing a blend of jazz, rock and other influences. Their musical style sounds like free jazz improvisation with a 60s/70s retro vibe, but it is probably rather an ‘organized chaos’, given the large number of participating musicians. lol It is an act that is made for the big stage and I’m sure it is quite an experience to see them play live! On the other hand we
have Mid-Air Thief who’s music is rather calm, a mix of pop, folk and
electronic music with elements of psychedelic rock (in the broader sense) that creates a flowing and
dreamy atmosphere. The Smile is a new project
mainly comprising the Radiohead members Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood. Their
music is undoubtedly of high quality, but it differs little from the well-known
Radiohead style imo, at least in this song. The first two tracks
are great, each in its own way, though the former appeals to me a bit more in
terms of genre. I read that this group is actually a multidisciplinary artist's collective including butoh dancers and other performance artists, which is quite exciting! My favourite of yous
is: Shibusashirazu Orchestra _____________ To be contined Edited by Mila-13 - September 11 2022 at 18:48 |
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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^ Thanks for your comments, Mila. Glad you like Kaboom Karavan's album. Don't hesitate to explore his other albums; good chance you will like them too (I especially like A Short Walk With Olaf).
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 6820 |
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I had written last night, but it looks like I forgot to hit the post button (it was late). I am going through slowly and am through the first two trios.
For Kees's trio, I liked all three in their own ways. And at the time of my post/vote the tribal 80s sound of Nena edged out Kaboom Karavan. For Christian's trio, again, I like all three. With Shudder to Think, it was more the underlying music and the angular crunch of the guitar. I got distracted by the semi-beat poetry like delivery of the vocals, which led me to think of Mike Myers in So I Married an Axe Murderer. So, I was between the last two, and voted for Stephen Fellows. The vocals stuck with me and quite enjoyed the underlayer of music that creeps in. |
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 6820 |
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Third set from Jaketejas (Gary). I remember all three. I saw a made for TV biopic on Jan and Dean in the late 70s with Richard Hatch (Apollo in the original Battlestar Galactica) as Jan. I know I have heard Lotta Love by Nicolette Larson before probably back in my AM radio days, but didn't know who the artist was. I never made the connection that it was the Neil Young song until now. I haven't heard the Trans-X song since whenever it came out in the 80s. All three songs are very representative of their decades. My preference goes with Lotta Love.
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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2162 |
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Thanks for all the comments! I have a vague memory of that biopic and the story of the comeback of Jan after the horrific car accident that left him with brain damage. The original Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers. I remember both very well.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15151 |
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Not much time to write I'm afraid but I start voting by giving it to Kaboom Karavan (somewhat predictably even though I really like that Nena track... I had forgotten how good it is, I listened to the album a lot at the time), and Nicolette Larson - great song very well delivered. Living on Video is quite iconic though.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15151 |
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Very strong selection by Mila, not much between these. I like them all. I vote for Johanna Burnheart.
Edited by Lewian - September 13 2022 at 03:56 |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15151 |
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Very clear ranking among George's stuff though, Mantra Machine very good, Rust OK, Warrior not my cup of tea.
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