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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37235 |
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Interesting, had you noticed my post yesterday where I mentioned listening to that album for the first time after I was asked by Nick on my thoughts on the Young Gods due to the band's Swans relation, or is the timing just coincidence? Nice either way. --------------------------- I'm still very undecided on what my three will be, other than I think that Jenny Hval's "The Great Undressing" (off Blood Bitch 2017) will be my 2010s choice. The Lingua Ignota is my favourite, but I know it's known to some here (and I did a poll with it, not an Interactive one, not long ago) and the use of the f* word and its context might be off-putting to some (though "The Great Undressing" also refers to consummation). "Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished" (Hamlet). Edited by Logan - August 31 2022 at 13:36 |
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Mila-13 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2021 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1555 |
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Pure coincidence or should I say predetermination? Since I'm on business atm and therefore I hardly have the opportunity to check the threads or social media. And of course, I'm pround of my Swiss compatriots and wanted to introduce them to you guys. :) Maybe I should pick an earlier recording, because that shows their innovative spirit even better. Let me see if I can find the time to go through their earlier material. Edited by Mila-13 - September 02 2022 at 17:39 |
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6048 |
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YVW, Greg. I've found them a really great way to get to know people in this site, more than other places, as there is discussion, and the virtual nonexistence of flareups over opinion. One thing that was suggested early on, was to be gentle, as the picks were to be beloved music of the participant. It's been relatively kind discussion, and even if something isn't someone's cup of tea, it is still expressed civilly. |
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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Yes, I agree, in fact I try to be flexible all the times. I've never said No to any proposal or will to change - at most I have only asked that the theme be expanded to give more options. Also, I dont consider myself the "owner" of the Interactive polls or the judge whose job it is to judge their eligibility or otherwise (they are okay, they are not okay), I have always tried to create a team that decides collectively. (However, it must be said that, in recent months, many people participate only in the song proposal stage, and then leave the poll without voting, which is not good, not so much because of the lack of votes, but because it means that these people propose songs that are listened to by others but they dont listen to others' songs) In general, the theme is a good idea (it was Micky the first to suggest it) and I am in favour to open the Interactive Polls to the prog songs. In my opinion, the right balance is: 1) IPs of non prog songs (about fifty per cent) 2) IPs of non prog songs and prog songs (about fifty per cent) and sometimes IPs of prog songs. - It is a good idea even the combination of 2 or 3 songs. Edited by jamesbaldwin - September 01 2022 at 10:55 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15151 |
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I'm pretty sure I did the first one with a theme, and it was my own idea. Not sure whether Micky had suggested something like this before, but in that case I don't remember having seen it.
I'd very roughly think it's good to have a clear majority of non-prog but occasionally also prog. Which is pretty much in line with your percentage indications (and I suspect pretty much all of us think like that). Edited by Lewian - September 01 2022 at 11:18 |
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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^ I concur... Too tired to elaborate, but those last ten posts or so were a good read, with which I mostly agree, and an interesting take on these IA-polls.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37235 |
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A very interesting discussion, and can't think of much interesting to add that hasn't been said (also dang tired).
But not too tired to think of three more. The one from 2022 is a very new discovery to me. So much great to me music, almost too much... This should be my final trio perhaps, and I might mix and match between the ones I have done to come up with my final three tracks. In the 2000s the contemporary, post 90s, exciting jazz revival was in full swing jazz with big band jazz (shwing!) with improv and brutal dissonant qualities from Japan. Japan was such a force to be reckoned with at the time when it comes to jazz meets a kind of brutal busy and big prog (in the 90s too, but I think it really cherry blossomed in the 2000s. 2000s Shibusashirazu Orchestra - Akkan (from Shibuboshi 2004) 2010s: The 2010s, like various past decades, speaks Neo-Psych, Indietronica and art pop music. What seals this as significantly timely to me is the origin, Korea (south Kora specifically). South Korea (not North Korea) became a juggernaut in entertainment arts (and pretty successful with cars too and electronics). Korea had massive success in term of exporting music, tv and film. It was already popular in other east Asian countries before that (and in terms of what my wife watched, it was mostly Korean dramas), and I already love Koreans film (two directors primarily), but how successful Korean arts are abroad in the 2010s has been remarkable, BTS, the Squid Game, Korean BBQ.... And I love kimchi. Mid-Air Thief - Crumbling Together (off Crumbling 2018) 2020s: The 2020s saw the rise of this decade's Post-Radiohead-like music (if "2020s Pretty Post-Radiohead-like" isn't a genre label yet then it should be), sometimes fused with music like Can, electronica and other things,. The Smile - Pana-vision (from A Light for Attracting Attention 2022) |
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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Yes, now I see. I remember that Micky was the one to suggest to follow the idea of the theme, but this discussion came after you opened your first interactive poll, "This sounds Greek to me" |
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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Listened to the first batch, from page 1: suitkees: Oh, no, not Nena again! Yes, well, sure... Actually, I don't remember if I was really in love with her, but I better should have had a poster of hers above my bed. Instead I think I had Mendeleev's Periodical Table of Elements scotched above my bed... ![]() Christian: With Shudder we are more on the punky, indy, grungy side of things. It's OK, but doesn't conquer me. Kante, on the contrary is much more captivating. Relaxed in a sense, not necessarily much diversity, but enchanting at the same time; subdued in the good way. The Comsat Angels are with the Cocteau Twins for me: always liked what I heard, but never explored. This track by Stephen Fellows is really a great listen. My preferred of your selection. Jaketas: Ah, this is 60s surfing. Nice to hear these "other Beach Boys". With Nicolette Larson we get a typical 70s singer/songwriter's pop song. Not exceptional, but her singing is great! Followed by this synthy disco-pop tune by Trans X. Yes, typical 80s. Probably what I hated the most at that time - still not a fan. Mila: Ideal with their Blue Eyes; yes, a rather typical new wave product. Didn't know them (or don't remember them) and they wouldn't have been much in my scope back then. It's nice to hear, but I'm much more captivated by Dawda Jobarthe & Stefan Pasborg's track - this is really great musicianship and songwriting that I like. Energetic! I've heard of Johanna Burnheart, but here again: I never explored her music. Nice vocalizations and work on the rythmic structure and the electronics with that jazzy stance that sets in. Again a wonderful track. George: Warrior, haha. I haven't heard this since the 80s. A friend of mine had one or more of their albums and that's how I discovered them. Yes, the typical hard rock (or power metal, if you wish) that I liked to hear every once in while but wasn't on top of my listening preferences. Not then, not now. Great to hear, though. Yes, Rust is a good example of the Indie/Alt rock of the 90s. I must have heard them, but it is not what captivated me that much. It's OK, but Not necessarily for Today. I'm surprising myself that I actually very much like the Mantra Machine track. This is part of the genres that I generally do not explore (there's too much and not much to my liking, as far as I can guess...), but of the three you propose here it is the one that captivates me most - it's got some of those Hawkind aspects that I like. [Edit, and added:] Lorenzo: Ah, Lorenzo is back, so we have good music again ;) La Crus, yes very atmospheric. I love this sound carpet with the trumped added to it. Great track. I also always loved Paolo Conte, that is: to hear it every once in a while. He's not changing very much his "thing" here, but it remains very enjoyable to listen to. For Guccini I have similar comments concerning his "thing", but again here a great listen. Still, La Crus' Lontano is the stand-out track for me of this selection. To be continued (if possible)... Edited by suitkees - September 03 2022 at 02:33 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37235 |
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^ Excellent, Kees. Thanks so much for preparing that. Reading a post like yours there actually is my favourite part of this whole exercise, and I always really enjoy reading your impressions (as well as hearing what you bring to the table).
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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^ Thank you, Greg. For me too, this is the part of exchanging about music that I appreciate very much. I enjoy commenting on what I listen to, if I have time (and add some odd twists and/or being very explicit in what I like or don't like...). These polls have made me discover much great music. (actually, I sometimes try to compete with your very bad sense of humor, but your word-plays are much more sophisticated than mine ...
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Mila-13 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2021 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1555 |
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Thanks for your comments, always appreciated! Though I hope that Stephen Fellows is not your favourite of mine, because that's actually one of Christian's choices. :P There's another 'Stephen', the duo Stefan Pasborg/Dawda Jobarthe is one of my suggestions. The German new wave band has been replaced the other day by an industrial rock band. I guess the playlist will be updated once everybody has made their final choice. Edited by Mila-13 - September 02 2022 at 19:35 |
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 6820 |
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Hey Greg, thanks for your feedback. I've floating in out of PA, mostly voting in polls, so I haven't had a chance to reply. I did go through my personal recollection of the decades, and I am glad enjoyed reading it. I hope to have some time to really read through your posts and others this weekend.
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 6820 |
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The Warrior and Rust choices, besides being of those times, were colored by nostalgia. Not sure how I would feel if I were to listen for the first time now. Warrior brings back fond memories of hanging out with my college roommate and playing music much too loud as to bother our neighbors, and Rust for seeing a band that I had seen several times almost make it. I agree that there is a lot out their in that stoner/psychedelic/space jam vein of music. Mantra Machine hit that right groove for me with their first full length that I got this track. Their second album didn't really do it for me.
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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Hehe, my brain must have been in the fridge at that moment; at least it didn't give the right signals to my typing fingers. But I was referring to the Dawda Jobarthe & Stefan Pasborg track, so the comment is the right one (I was even asking myself if I could use the word "songwriting" for an instrumental track. I did use it, so I can...). I'll correct the name in the post. Just listened to the Young Gods. Energetic too. And an interesting listen. I'm maybe not completely convinced by the drum/heavy guitar parts (that sound more punk than industrial to me), especially in the first part of the song, but as a whole the track is really nice. I like how they use the effects.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15151 |
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Thanks Kees for the comments! I like a lot reading these; unfortunately I'm not such a big writer and all the stuff that is going on this summer (and more things to listen to, which in itself is a good thing) will unfortunately mean that I won't write much on the proposals. Listening-wise I'm at it!
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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^ Actually, Nickie is paying me when she's not around to do some write-ups (one gold bar per comment, though I'm still waiting the first shipment...). And remember, it's not an obligation (unless Nickie pays you).
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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@Logan Claude Lombard - song dominated by the female voice and high-pitched keyboard sounds. Sinuous and languid. Cocteau Twins - power-pop song with a percussion sound that I just don't like, it's a pity because the melodic vocal intertwining is interesting. Portished - high-class pop song, as is often the case in Portished. Here too there are some questionable, bulky percussions, but they are deliberately bulky, they make a clear contribution to the sound. It is my favorite song, especially in the second part when the singing takes off and the electric guitar arrives to fill the space invaded by percussions. In all three songs, the part I like the most is the vocals.
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