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4 stars  1990: Melrose
 
Melrose is the 20th studio album and 39th album overall and we've now reached a major waypoint in Tangerine Dream's long career. Melrose (after which this TD era is named) is the last album to feature Paul Haslinger, but it's also the first album with Edgar Froese's son Jerome becoming a full-time member of the band  (and later being a prominent fixture in their touring line-up). Melrose may not have an "Uptown Top Ranking" in Tangerine Dream's humungous discography, but it's certainly more entertaining than Melrose Place. Tongue

After Optical Race and Lily on the Beach, this was the third album by TD where I found myself skipping entire tracks. (It's going to get worse.)

That rating is highly suspect, btw. Tongue
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Originally posted by Guy Guden Guy Guden wrote:

  one soundtrack that has been repeatedly played on my show from Tangerine Dream is HEARTBREAKERS.  the song Twilight Painter, I believe got many airings.  

Clap Like Firestarter, Heartbreakers consists of entirely original music by FFS. It's brilliant. They used the same equipment, more or less, as heard on Poland
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

 3 stars  1990: Melrose
 
Melrose is the 20th studio album and 39th album overall and we've now reached a major waypoint in Tangerine Dream's long career. Melrose (after which this TD era is named) is the last album to feature Paul Haslinger, but it's also the first album with Edgar Froese's son Jerome becoming a full-time member of the band  (and later being a prominent fixture in their touring line-up). Melrose may not have an "Uptown Top Ranking" in Tangerine Dream's humungous discography, but it's certainly more entertaining than Melrose Place. Tongue

After Optical Race and Lily on the Beach, this was the third album by TD where I found myself skipping entire tracks. (It's going to get worse.)

That rating is highly suspect, btw. Tongue
Okay, I'll downgrade the Melrose album to a 3-star rating, seeing as I only listened to the album this morning and the only track I remember now is the title track. Embarrassed


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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Lily on the Beach sounds even better to me now than it did ten years ago, when I used to have the album on CD. One thing's for sure: I wish I'd never given the CD away to a charity shop. Cry

I've never done an A:B with the original and 2002 re-recording. Thoughts?

I've never heard the 2002 re-recording. I wasn't even aware there was a re-recording available until now. Lily on the Beach was the last Tangerine Dream album I'm familiar with, so it's all unexplored territory for me from now on.  Embarrassed

Fasten your seatbelt and watch those sudden sharp turns. 1990s TD goes downhill fast.

From what you've told me so far, it sounds like the  1990's weren't the greatest decade for Tangerine Dream, but I have a strong feeling there's going to be a Turn of the Tides for the better when Linda Spa joins the band for their 1994 studio album. Wink
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Fasten your seatbelt and watch those sudden sharp turns. 1990s TD goes downhill fast.

From what you've told me so far, it sounds like the  1990's weren't the greatest decade for Tangerine Dream, but I have a strong feeling there's going to be a Turn of the Tides for the better when Linda Spa joins the band for their 1994 studio album. Wink

TD makes a comeback, eventually...

...but Turn of the Tides is less memorable than Melrose, even. Confused
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Fasten your seatbelt and watch those sudden sharp turns. 1990s TD goes downhill fast.

From what you've told me so far, it sounds like the  1990's weren't the greatest decade for Tangerine Dream, but I have a strong feeling there's going to be a Turn of the Tides for the better when Linda Spa joins the band for their 1994 studio album. Wink

TD makes a comeback, eventually...

...but Turn of the Tides is less memorable than Melrose, even. Confused
Oh dear. That doesn't sound good. Let's hope Turn of the Tides doesn't turn out to be a wash-out for me too.  Tongue


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Every TD album has something to offer, even when they're less than consistent. Tyranny of Beauty has a few great tracks.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Every TD album has something to offer, even when they're less than consistent. Tyranny of Beauty has a few great tracks.

The only Tangerine Dream album I've really disliked so far was Zeit, which seems to be a popular favourite amongst TD fans, but comes as no surprise, given my past record for down-rating popular albums that almost everyone else here seems to love (VDGG's Pawn Hearts & KC's Larks' Tongues in Aspic being prime examples). Tongue
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Holy Moly! I almost forgot to include Michael Hoenig here, but thanks to a timely reminder from David and Holy Moly, his eight albums  will be coming up right after Paul Haslinger's solo works. As you're probably aware,  Michael Hoenig was a former member of Agitation Free, but he never actually appeared on a Tangerine Dream album, although he's long been associated with the band after standing in for Peter Baumann on Tangerine Dream's tour of Australia back in 1975. Having taken a quick peek at Michael Hoenig's discography, there are two solo studio albums, one collaboration (with Manuel Gottsching) and five soundtracks currently available on YouTtube, so plenty to look forward to and I can say that without agitation. In the meantime, I still have a lot of Paul Haslinger albums to get through, but I'll be back here with his full solo discography before too long.  Smile

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Holy Moly! I almost forgot to include Michael Hoenig here, but thanks to a timely reminder from David and Holy Moly, his eight albums  will be coming up right after Paul Haslinger's solo works.

You're welcome. Big smile

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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Guy Guden Guy Guden wrote:

  one soundtrack that has been repeatedly played on my show from Tangerine Dream is HEARTBREAKERS.  the song Twilight Painter, I believe got many airings.  

Clap Like Firestarter, Heartbreakers consists of entirely original music by FFS. It's brilliant. They used the same equipment, more or less, as heard on Poland

I have Heartbreakers but may only have listened to it once or twice at the time. I've just revisited it thanks to the recommendation. Now listening to Poland for a contrast. I have to admit I find Heartbreakers still quite lacklustre, and Poland has so much more depth. I have to say that after Poland (and including 1984 soundtracks) I really have a hard time appreciating anything they have done. Some more recent music from the last 20 years I heard is OK but still far from pretty much anything between Electronic Meditation and Poland. Obviously, as I lost interest, there's much between 1985 and today that I don't know, but I don't expect much from it knowing what I know. And that from one of my absolute favourite bands up to that time. Disapprove


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Guy Guden Guy Guden wrote:

  one soundtrack that has been repeatedly played on my show from Tangerine Dream is HEARTBREAKERS.  the song Twilight Painter, I believe got many airings.  

Clap Like Firestarter, Heartbreakers consists of entirely original music by FFS. It's brilliant. They used the same equipment, more or less, as heard on Poland

I have Heartbreakers but may only have listened to it once or twice at the time. I've just revisited it thanks to the recommendation. Now listening to Poland for a contrast. I have to admit I find Heartbreakers still quite lacklustre, and Poland has so much more depth. I have to say that after Poland (and including 1984 soundtracks) I really have a hard time appreciating anything they have done. Some more recent music from the last 20 years I heard is OK but still far from pretty much anything between Electronic Meditation and Poland. Obviously, as I lost interest, there's much between 1985 and today that I don't know, but I don't expect much from it knowing what I know. And that from one of my absolute favourite bands up to that time. Disapprove

Poland and Heartbreakers scratch different itches. Poland is about intensity, density and lengthy excursions. Heartbreakers is a score that ably supports the film's themes with its concise structures and melodies that oscillate between melancholic and jubilant. I love those patently Schmoelling lead lines!
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Holy Moly! I almost forgot to include Michael Hoenig here, but thanks to a timely reminder from David and Holy Moly, his eight albums  will be coming up right after Paul Haslinger's solo works. As you're probably aware,  Michael Hoenig was a former member of Agitation Free, but he never actually appeared on a Tangerine Dream album, although he's long been associated with the band after standing in for Peter Baumann on Tangerine Dream's tour of Australia back in 1975. Having taken a quick peek at Michael Hoenig's discography, there are two solo studio albums, one collaboration (with Manuel Gottsching) and five soundtracks currently available on YouTtube, so plenty to look forward to and I can say that without agitation. In the meantime, I still have a lot of Paul Haslinger albums to get through, but I'll be back here with his full solo discography before too long.  Smile

With the publication of The Bootleg Box Set ~ Vol. 1, and the inclusion of the 1975 Royal Albert Hall concert, an official release that reflects Michael Hoenig's brief involvement with Tangerine Dream became available. The RAH concert happened immediately after the Australian tour. Clap

Concert Two: London, Royal Albert Hall, 2nd April 1975
2-1Part One50:01
3-1Part Two39:58
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Fasten your seatbelt and watch those sudden sharp turns. 1990s TD goes downhill fast.

From what you've told me so far, it sounds like the  1990's weren't the greatest decade for Tangerine Dream, but I have a strong feeling there's going to be a Turn of the Tides for the better when Linda Spa joins the band for their 1994 studio album. Wink

TD makes a comeback, eventually...

...but Turn of the Tides is less memorable than Melrose, even. Confused

Canyon Dreams is a good New Age album though , well I liked it!

Rockoon, Tyranny of Beauty and Turn of The Tides sounded very 'plastic' when I first heard them and I probably didn't get much past a second or third listen.

After Canyon Dreams, the only album in the 90's I can be bothered with Goblin's Club. That that was the beginning of a 'comeback' at least.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Fasten your seatbelt and watch those sudden sharp turns. 1990s TD goes downhill fast.

From what you've told me so far, it sounds like the  1990's weren't the greatest decade for Tangerine Dream, but I have a strong feeling there's going to be a Turn of the Tides for the better when Linda Spa joins the band for their 1994 studio album. Wink

TD makes a comeback, eventually...

...but Turn of the Tides is less memorable than Melrose, even. Confused

Canyon Dreams is a good New Age album though , well I liked it!

Rockoon, Tyranny of Beauty and Turn of The Tides sounded very 'plastic' when I first heard them and I probably didn't get much past a second or third listen.

After Canyon Dreams, the only album in the 90's I can be bothered with Goblin's Club. That that was the beginning of a 'comeback' at least.
The Canyon Dreams soundtrack also has the distinct advantage of having been recorded in 1986 (five years before its eventual release date) when Tangerine Dream were still the dynamic trio of Edgar Froese, Chris Franke & Paul Haslinger. Thumbs Up
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Yes, Canyon Dreams first "arrived" on VHS in 1987...I rented it! I think it's the best music by the FFH line-up after Underwater Sunlight, Near Dark and "Live/Miles Part One."
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Rockoon, Tyranny of Beauty and Turn of The Tides sounded very 'plastic' when I first heard them and I probably didn't get much past a second or third listen.

After Canyon Dreams, the only album in the 90's I can be bothered with Goblin's Club. That that was the beginning of a 'comeback' at least.

Tyranny has some good tracks, like "Bride in Cold Tears" and "Living in a Fountain Pen."

It took me a long time to properly appreciate it, but I concur Goblins Club is something of a comeback; the last three tracks, especially "Sad Merlin's Sunday," are excellent.


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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Rockoon, Tyranny of Beauty and Turn of The Tides sounded very 'plastic' when I first heard them and I probably didn't get much past a second or third listen.

After Canyon Dreams, the only album in the 90's I can be bothered with Goblin's Club. That that was the beginning of a 'comeback' at least.

Tyranny has some good tracks, like "Bride in Cold Tears" and "Living in a Fountain Pen."

It took me a long time to properly appreciate it, but I concur Goblins Club is something of a comeback; the last three tracks, especially "Sad Merlin's Sunday," are excellent.


Tyranny of Beauty is a great album title and I Love the album cover too, so I just hope the music lives up to the promise of the cover and title, and I just noticed the album features Linda Spa on saxophone too, so my expectations are already set high. Smile

Why do I feel as if I'm going to end up being disappointed though? Tongue
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Why do I feel as if I'm going to end up being disappointed though? Tongue

Just keep them low for Turn of the TidesWink
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Favourite Tangerine Dream albums so far: 1970-1990

Favourite studio album:-


Favourite Live album:-

5 stars 1977: Encore (Live 1977) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8is0eYVfxs

Favourite soundtrack:-

5 stars 1986: Legend (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84jvSHmXsuA
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