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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

I should have written: "...these denigrating emoticons and videos."

videos? where? 
"denigrating emoticons":  

and similar videos, or whatever you call them.

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

I should have written: "...these denigrating emoticons and videos."

videos? where? 
"denigrating emoticons":  

and similar videos, or whatever you call them.


So you're still at it. 
Sometimes an image, a photo and even an emoticon speak louder than a hundred words.

The only denigrating emoticons are these ones (which i stay away from)
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And now, we're talking about our problems, I wished that you stopped being aggressive towards me and trying putting me down.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


And now, we're talking about our problems, I wished that you stopped being aggressive towards me and trying putting me down.

again, you were the one to attack me here.
I'm not being aggressive (how?) or trying to put you down. I don't know how you are reaching this conclusion. 

Let's stop, we've done enough damage to this thread about an (otherwise) great band. 
 


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

4 stars 1983: Hyperborea - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRpSLMRY8Q
 
Hyberborea is Tangerine Dream's 20th album overall and their 13th studio album. In Greek mythology, Hyperborea was an idyllic and magical land where the sun shione for 24 hours a day. A bit like the North Pole then, only a lot warmer and without the aurora hyperborealis. I'm not sure if Hyperborea is an idyllic and magical album, but it's still pretty good as Tangerine Dream albums go. Hyperborea is significant for being Tangerine Dream's last studio album on the Virgin label, marking the end of an era for the band, and I'm happy to say, they departed the Virgin label on more amicable terms than Mike Oldfield later did.  Tongue

This was my gateway album into the world of TD. I have fond memories of this and believe I bought this after hearing one of the tracks on a radio show called Stars End, broadcast in Philadelphia on WPXN back in the mid-1980s. Back then the show was broadcast very late at night on Fridays and Saturdays and I would listen to it with my headphones on and the lights out. If I could pull my stereo out into the backyard, this would have been great to listen to under a starry night.

Two other artists I discovered on that show were Mark Shreeve (which you've reviewed in the past) and Richard Pinhas. Like you, I'd give Hyperborea 4 stars too.
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^ I'm a big fan of Mark Shreeve too. I have three of his albums on CD:- Assassin; Crash Head; & Legion. I saw him Live at the EMMA festival in Derby in 1994 where there were a Legion of fans in attendance, but thankfully, no Assassins. Smile

3 stars 1980: Mark Shreeve - Phantom - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRPROZu-PA4
3 stars 1980: Mark Shreeve - Ursa Major - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bub4iylevTE
3 stars 1980: Mark Shreeve - Embryo -
4 stars 1981: Mark Shreeve - Firemusic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2L6tC7miE8
4 stars 1981: Mark Shreeve - Thoughts of War - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIyCI0NmdFk&t=579s
5 stars 1983: Mark Shreeve - Assassin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gPAXgTOXl0
5 stars 1985: Mark Shreeve - Legion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCYLb5e2jX8
4 stars 1986: Mark Shreeve - Oracle - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxbJTRUIONM
4 stars 1987: Mark Shreeve - Energy Fountain - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lenKuU5D4q0
4 stars 1988: Mark Shreeve - Crash Head - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBkeahM1l_g&t=681s
4 stars 1989: Mark Shreeve - Riding the Edge - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ6w52h3Yuc&t=2100s
4 stars 1991: Mark Shreeve - Pulsar -
5 stars 1994: Mark Shreeve - Collide: Live at EMMA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Fwr-hWc_I
5 stars 1995: Mark Shreeve - Nocturne - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rkqye2QDjg



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A couple of other British electronica artists that may appeal to you if you like the sound of Tangerine Dream.....


4 stars 1995: Andy Pickford - Linear Functions - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czaxxC0myl4
5 stars 1996: Andy Pickford - Works I: Live at EMMA Festival 1994 -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nWkbz7HcIFv2eGsF20ePfLjmEgdqdgOIk
5 stars 1997: Andy Pickford - Works II: Live at Derby Guildhall - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nKAqkXY_j_a1ri3-VeutFmfm2vogatDMY
3 stars 2021: Andy Pickford - RadioSilence: Objective Linearity - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lvxHdeGB5JagTKjv1UzIDAn9nORWkIo-U


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5 stars 1986: Legend (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84jvSHmXsuA
 
Legend is Tangerine Dream's 28th album overall and their 8th soundtrack album - and what a soundtrack it is!! This is easily Tangerine Dream's best soundtrack so far for me. The beautiful melodies contained within this album just blew me away the first time I heard it. It felt almost as if I'd entered a magical fantasy world of goblins and unicorns where anything is possible. Legend has it that Jerry Goldsmith submitted the original orchestral score for this Ridley Scott movie, but it was rejected by Universal Pictures as they deemed it unlikely to appeal to the "youth market". Tangerine Dream were contracted to come up with a new score for the movie, resulting in one of their most outstanding film scores ever!  Star Star Star Star Star 
 
This song is "Loved by the Sun" and it's loved by me too. Heart No prizes for guessing who the featured vocalist is. Smile
 
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A couple of very nice "Berlin School" duos to savour who've probably never even been to Berlin, as they're all from the county shires of merry old England, but if you like the sound of Tangerine Dream, then..... (you know the rest) Wink

ARC (Ian Boddy & Mark Shreeve)


Code Indigo (Robert Fox & David Wright)

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Another student of the Berlin School of electronic music is Ian Boddy, although he's from Newcastle-upon-Tyne, so he probably did a home study course. Tongue

5 stars 1993: Ian Boddy - The Uncertainty Principle - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZOGyPzDu8SgR_oigFwC7v4
3 stars 1999: Ian Boddy & Marcus Reuter - Distant Rituals - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbNx8lEHHwoU3tJDq8HNOSR
3 stars 2001: Ian Boddy, Marcus Reuter & Nigel Mullaney - Triptych - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaPPq7dlS1QYGfooCDe7IkQ
3 stars 2002: Ian Boddy & Marcus Reuter - Jodrell Bank Concert - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbo36Bxax9BXWI8csSlDTg0
2 stars 2005: Ian Boddy & Robert Rich - Lithosphere - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZgju_bj-F38i-6OuaBic8h
3 stars 2007: Ian Boddy - The Mechanics of Thought - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZlQsVzJJGmKXMAcgyPEtCN
3 stars 2009: Ian Boddy & Bernard Woestheinrich - Hemispheres - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZ6ArkjPZ1_IklKftpmPQgd
5 stars 2009: Ian Boddy & David Wright - Shifting Sands - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYqAEe9IrbuB4IJ1hqLJepg
5 stars 2010: Ian Boddy, Klaus Hoffman-Hoock & David Wright - Trinity - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZQO2lFJ5mI9pZ2DrG41zAv
3 stars 2011: Ian Boddy & Parallel Worlds - Exit Strategy - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYqKx0P1pLO9YfNtX-yc5aL
2 stars 2013: Ian Boddy, Sid Smith & Jane Molloy - Other Rooms - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYy1FRUDSPAXN_gG8NAKlQS
3 stars 2013: Ian Boddy & Marcus Reuter - Colour Division - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYNlQXuFaRMsh2xJwUmnjvv
3 stars 2019: Ian Boddy & Nigel Mullaney - Schemes & Ruses - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaPfFmFWQXMXTSr7edocvPK
3 stars 2021: Ian Boddy & Nigel Mullaney - Smoke & Mirrors - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZE_urbvKYFlN3f8izqYB3I
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Another British artist worth mentioning is John Dyson (not the vacuum cleaner guy) from Sheffield. He's best-known for the Evolution of a distinctive whistling synth sound, and once you've heard it, you won't forget it.. John Dyson has obviously studied at the "Berlin School" too, as his music is very reminiscent of Tangerine Dream, but with a distinctive style all of his own. He's the best artist to come from Sheffield since The Human League, probably. Big smile

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Finally, before getting back on-topic with Tangerine Dream, there's two other British electronica artists well-worth mentioning: David Wright & Robert Fox - featured here earlier as part of the Code Indigo duo. They're not exactly household names (even in their own households), but Robert Fox & David Wright are two of the finest artists in the Brutish electronic music scene, and if I'm wrong about that, then I'm a tangerine! Tongue

4 stars 2000: Robert Fox - Talking Heads -


5 stars 1991: David Wright - Waiting for the Soundtrack - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lBxvJbKtIVNUIfMGWg1MxufjKkhC4Fdp0
5 stars 1996: David Wright - Live at the London Planetarium - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k109DsmUAfkLmKePFuNawosCH_os3gigs
5 stars 2004: David Wright - Returning Tides: Best of 1991-2004 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nfc9cxY9nXdU6NPnbS-XqUYFaCrhoPNH8
4 stars 2008: David Wright - Dreams and Distant Moonlight - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nwuqp2gc6sz71ujPgGDrCCQqmF1o0xfsE
5 stars 2009: David Wright & Ian Boddy - Shifting Sands - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mCgLLlQkkjH6iql3NJdNqmAkHx2HYhOgQ
5 stars 2010: Boddy, Hoffmann-Hoock & Wright - Trinity - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZQO2lFJ5mI9pZ2DrG41zAv
5 stars 2011: David Wright - The Spirit of Light: Best of Vol. 2 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kIAmFnSLKyZ9PvZGwwumMWy6F5_gsgi8A
4 stars 2014: David Wright - Beyond the Airwaves, Volume 1 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lf0LwB4UFf0qSgDU4rMppTiTRULL3PXHU
4 stars 2015: David Wright - Beyond the Airwaves, Volume 2 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lDwA6m_mbKTcH_66_EpLHjuNPOoobGjV8
4 stars 2020: David Wright & Stephan Whitlan - The Reflecting Sky - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kFWdi1OgIwx_NxAKov4NjZSPPZX9CVkp4
4 stars 2020: David Wright - Beyond the Airwaves, Volume 3 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEDnWE-LG6OY-qmvK4YrM9LpGCcWiPitY
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For me, the UK's best contributions to the world of EM are pre-Redshift Mark Shreeve, ARC (Mark Shreeve + Ian Boddy) and Wavestar (John Dyson + the late Dave Ward-Hunt). 

Wavestar's Moonwind and Mark Shreeve's Legion each had a tremendous impact on me back in the Awesome Eighties. Those albums served to further the notion EM wasn't limited to TD (and alumni), Vangelis, Jarre, Carlos, Tomita and Synergy.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

For me, the UK's best contributions to the world of EM are pre-Redshift Mark Shreeve, ARC (Mark Shreeve + Ian Boddy) and Wavestar (John Dyson + the late Dave Ward-Hunt). 

Wavestar's Moonwind and Mark Shreeve's Legion each had a tremendous impact on me back in the Awesome Eighties. Those albums served to further the notion EM wasn't limited to TD (and alumni), Vangelis, Jarre, Carlos, Tomita and Synergy.
I used to think EM was limited to TD, Vangelis, Jarre, Tomita & Synergy too until the 1990's, and I'm glad you reminded me about Wavestar. Thumbs Up

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm glad you reminded me about Wavestar. Thumbs Up

Moonwind was on a constant loop when I got it new in 1988. I couldn't stop listening to it. "Voyager" and "Cabal" blew me away. It certainly kicked Optical Race to the curb: better sounds + better compositions + an overall better album.

And it was none other than Larry Fast (Synergy) who made it available stateside, by releasing it on his Audion label! Clap

Paul, have you heard Wavestar II? It's John Dyson, Paul Ward and Stephan Whitlan.

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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm glad you reminded me about Wavestar. Thumbs Up

Moonwind was on a constant loop when I got it new in 1988. I couldn't stop listening to it. "Voyager" and "Cabal" blew me away. It certainly kicked Optical Race to the curb: better sounds + better compositions + an overall better album.

And it was none other than Larry Fast (Synergy) who made it available stateside, by releasing it on his Audion label! Clap

Paul, have you heard Wavestar II? It's John Dyson, Paul Ward and Stephan Whitlan.

Moonwind is the only Wavestar album I have on CD, and I have John Dyson's first three solo albums on CD too.

I've heard of Moonwind II, but couldn't find any links for their albums on YouTube. Confused

I used to have Synergy's Audion album on vinyl and I'd like to get it on CD too. I Love that album! Heart

I'll have to make a list out of all of my electronica albums, of which Tangerine Dream's 12 albums are only a small part. Smile
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

4 stars 1983: Hyperborea - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRpSLMRY8Q
 
Hyberborea is Tangerine Dream's 20th album overall and their 13th studio album. In Greek mythology, Hyperborea was an idyllic and magical land where the sun shione for 24 hours a day. A bit like the North Pole then, only a lot warmer and without the aurora hyperborealis. I'm not sure if Hyperborea is an idyllic and magical album, but it's still pretty good as Tangerine Dream albums go. Hyperborea is significant for being Tangerine Dream's last studio album on the Virgin label, marking the end of an era for the band, and I'm happy to say, they departed the Virgin label on more amicable terms than Mike Oldfield later did.  Tongue

This was my gateway album into the world of TD. I have fond memories of this and believe I bought this after hearing one of the tracks on a radio show called Stars End, broadcast in Philadelphia on WPXN back in the mid-1980s. Back then the show was broadcast very late at night on Fridays and Saturdays and I would listen to it with my headphones on and the lights out. If I could pull my stereo out into the backyard, this would have been great to listen to under a starry night.


I agree about Hyperborea. I'd forgotten how much I liked this album until I encountered it again on this thread.
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My Electronic Music collection on CD; including all twelve of Tangerine Dream's classic studio albums on the Virgin label:- 

Ed Alleyne-Johnson - Purple Electric Violin Concerto
Ed Alleyne-Johnson - Echoes

Banco de Gaia - Maya
Banco de Gaia - Last Train to Lhasa

Ian Boddy - Drive
Ian Boddy - Jade
Ian Boddy - Odyssey
Ian Boddy - The Uncertainty Principle
Ian Boddy - The Deep

Ron Boots - Ghost of a Mist

Richard Burmer - On the Third Extreme
Richard Burmer - Mosaic
Richard Burmer - Invention

Coral Cave - Mysterious Attractions of Contrasts
Coral Cave - Impressions of Science

Mark Dwane - The Atlantis Factor

John Dyson - Evolution
John Dyson - Aquarelle
John Dyson - Different Values

Robert Fox - Asfafa
Robert Fox - The Fire and the Rose
Robert Fox - Blue Mountain Suite
Robert Fox - A Gathering of Spirits

Christopher Franke - Pacific Coast Highway

Edgar Froese - Aqua
Edgar Froese - Epsilon in Malaysian Pale
Edgar Froese - Ages
Edgar Froese - Stuntman
Edgar Froese - Pinnacles

Jan Hammer - Escape from Television

Jean Michel Jarre - Revolutions
Jean Michel Jarre - Images: The Best of...

Karunesh - Global Village
Karunesh - Global Spirit
Karunesh - Nirvana Cafe

John Kerr - Castles in the Sky
John Kerr - Voices

Kitaro - Dream

Glyn Lloyd-Jones - Ocean of Serenity

Nick Magnus - Straight on Till Morning

Paul Nagle - Wavemaker 
Paul Nagle - Firedancer

Patrick O'Hearn - Eldorado
Patrick O'Hearn - Metaphor

William Orbit - Strange Cargo
William Orbit - Strange Cargo III
William Orbit - Pieces in a Modern Style

Andy Pickford - Replicant
Andy Pickford - Terraformer
Andy Pickford - Maelstrom

Ryuichi Sakamoto - Neo Geo

John Serrie - Midsummer Century

Michael Shipway - Into Battle
Michael Shipway - Beneath Folly

Mark Shreeve - Crash Head
Mark Shreeve - Assassin
Mark Shreeve - Legion

Strange Inside - Different Colours

Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
Tangerine Dream - Rubycon
Tangerine Dream - Ricochet
Tangerine Dream - Stratosfear
Tangerine Dream - Cyclone
Tangerine Dream - Encore
Tangerine Dream - Force Majeure
Tangerine Dream - Tangram
Tangerine Dream - Exit
Tangerine Dream - White Eagle
Tangerine Dream - Logos
Tangerine Dream - Hyperborea

Vangelis - Blade Runner
Vangelis - 1492: Conquest of Paradise
Vangelis - The Best of Vangelis
Vangelis - Reprise 1990-1999
Vangelis - Mythodea
Vangelis - Themes

Venya - Arcadia

Johnny Voorbogt - Wonderland

Paul Ward - For a Knave
Paul Ward - The Fear of Make-Believe

Waveform - Virtual World

Wavestar - Moonwind

Clifford White - Ascension
Clifford White - Aqua

Bekki Williams - Elysian Fields
Bekki Williams - Shadow of the Wind
Bekki Williams - Innersense
Bekki Williams - Edge of Human

David Wright - Marilynmba
David Wright - Between Realities
David Wright - Ocean Watch
David Wright - Moments in Time 
David Wright - Dissimilar Views

Yanni - Dare ro Dream
Yanni - Tribute
Yanni - Live at the Acropolis



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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Sometimes an image, a photo and even an emoticon speak louder than a hundred words.

That's the problem for me, and no arguments there.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Sometimes an image, a photo and even an emoticon speak louder than a hundred words.

That's the problem for me, and no arguments there.
And sometimes an emoticon can be misinterpreted. Wink
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