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    Posted: August 12 2022 at 02:50
Outside of all things jazz + Can, Magma, Tangerine Dream and a few other bands/artists with plenty of unique material in their live sets - sitting at home listening to live albums is not my thing. At all. But out of curiosity I checked out PA's top live albums. Maybe there was a relevant title or two of interest there to check out for someone like me.

I was surprised that only a couple of the widely known "classics" I took for granted to be in the top ten or at least twenty weren't even close. I located Yessongs, Roxy & Elsewhere, A Live Record, Ricochet and Seconds Out in between the top 35-50. Space Ritual, Live - Bursting Out and Exit...Stage, Left all resided somewhere outside of the top 100. What does this all tell me? Primarely that obscurities with few ratings/reviews, but with an abnormally high rating average (as most of their raters/reviewers are fanboys) are weighted too favorably. Compared to household names that are rated/reviewed by "everyone".

-I only really know the Magma and Miles' albums here, and I have checked out Playing the Fool + Solar Music - Live at some point. Just to try and understand what the fuss was all about. From the little handful I do know Retrospektïẁ I-II would have gotten my vote, but I'm not going to vote for anything. I've decided to give the ones that gets the most votes a shot though - even if that means I have to listen to Dream Theater.

Anyway, here's "your top 25" + a link to the top 250:


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Some great choices, but can't not vote for The Great Deceiver 
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Live Scenes from New York, ahead of Score and Genesis Revisited….
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ELP ' Welcome Back My Friends' or Henry Cow 'Concerts'.  Hey, what do I know - they are not in the 'top 25'?
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Steve Hackett - an easy choice to make as I only know two other albums in the poll (by Dream Theater and Porcupine Tree) Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

ELP ' Welcome Back My Friends' or Henry Cow 'Concerts'.  Hey, what do I know - they are not in the 'top 25'?
Welcome Back... is 75th and Henry Cow Concerts is nowhere near the top 250
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

ELP ' Welcome Back My Friends' or Henry Cow 'Concerts'.  Hey, what do I know - they are not in the 'top 25'?
Welcome Back... is 75th and Henry Cow Concerts is nowhere near the top 250

As I said, what do I know?  What I do know is that most of these albums are retrospective and not contemporaneous.  Would King Crimson have 'Earthbound' in there?  I think not.
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I totally agree with the opening posting. This is a rather bizarre collection given that it's the top 25. I did a live albums tournament some time ago which was won by Yessongs (as was toi be expected), ahead of Deep Purple's Live in Japan (which probably doesn't qualify here).

Consequently, for me as a live album lover there's a rather embarrassing number that I don't know. I do like much King Crimson live (and know all but one of those listed) and will vote for Radical Action.
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Grat Deceiver > Theusz Hamtaahk Trilogie
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

ELP ' Welcome Back My Friends' or Henry Cow 'Concerts'.  Hey, what do I know - they are not in the 'top 25'?
Welcome Back... is 75th and Henry Cow Concerts is nowhere near the top 250

As I said, what do I know?  What I do know is that most of these albums are retrospective and not contemporaneous.  Would King Crimson have 'Earthbound' in there?  I think not.
Sure, I just know because I checked. Earthbound has a 2.49 average and probably not even in the top 1000. USA is somhwere near the bottom 200-250 though.
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Miles Davis - Dark Magus
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GG just over Discipline.
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Not what I would have expected either in the results (makes me want to do a RYM comparison).

I love Magma's Retrospektïẁ I-II (in my top five Magma). That version of "Theusz Hamtaahk" is, I think, awesome, and the "MDK" version I really love too. I would have expected Magma Live (Hhaï) to be represented, Ricochet as well as Camel's A Live Record, Space Ritual, the Rush and actually maybe Cardiacs' All That Glitters Is a Mares Nest (which I find very enjoyable).

The other Magma listed and Miles Davis' Dark Magus would also have received my votes had this been multiple vote. My most listened to live albums of late have been Swans' Omniscience, Ciśnienie's The Brass Album and JazzArt Underground, and outside of PA, Portishead's Roseland NYC. And a couple of days ago I was on a big Anna von Hausswolff kick (so good) and listened to Live at Montreux Jazz Festival (an earlier this year release). As a classic, I like Henry Cow's Concerts.

By the way, if Prog Related and Proto Prog is included, then one gets Deep Purple's Made in Japan at 7 and Led Zeppelin's Celebration Day at 9 (which I have not heard of, but I would have expected The Song Remains the Same Live in the list).

And here is RYM's all genres, all-time live list. CLICK Interesting that Swans' Swans Are Dead album is the second-highest ranked. Swans does much better in the RYM rankings than at PA.


Edited by Logan - August 12 2022 at 07:28
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Steve Hackett, King Crimson (The Great Deceiver).
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There's nothing on here I know, which I would vote for.

Although we clearly listen to different types of Prog, I share with the OP the opinion that I listen to and enjoy few live albums. For me, too many fall into the trap of merely playing tracks as they are from the album, without adding to the experience. Consequently, I have very few in my collection these days.

Of course, there are the usual suspects of live albums I grew up with, which before video, were semi-religious experiences (Yessongs - Seconds Out - Exit Stage Left - Two For The Show - Made In Japan) but these days, the number I own are very few, because they have to be greater than the sum of the parts..
Anathema: Universal & Riverside: Lost 'n Found fall into this category...
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"Stein im Schuh, eben..."
Although I could have gone for Radical Action... But the very live atmosphere and humour of Solar Music Live is very contagious.

And I agree that this top 25 doesn't seem to be really very representative...


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Mr. Hackett.
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Originally posted by Mormegil Mormegil wrote:

Mr. Hackett.


of course---easy choice.
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Certainly none of my favourite live albums are mentioned here (i do like Solar Music live and Coma Divine) but i would have to go with Änglagård as their live lp  is one of the few live albums of recent years that has really caught my attention, if only for their rather alarmingly flawless renditions of somewhat gnarly studio material!

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