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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

It's probably going to end up as my favorite black midi album and I'm a huge fan. It keeps opening up to me. Lots of wonderful stuff going on.

It is already my favorite Black midi album. Huge fan as well. I just ordered it on red vinyl. Probably will get a lot of play.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Just saw them play in Boston tonight. Very rowdy show. Loved every single bit of it as I was the very large mosh pit! Tongue

Hellfire is definitely my album of the year.



Would have loved to have been there but currently in UK. How was the venue? Paradise Rock Club, right? I don't really like the sight lines there, seemed a very odd shape when I saw GYBE there.


This is the second time I've seen them. The Paradise Rock Club is not my favorite venue, but they were great live. Probably would have preferred the Sinclair or something else.


I saw them on the previous tour at the Sinclair, much better venue.
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I think I've played this album 15-20 times by now and it still impresses me. I don't normally give an album so much attention, but this has really gripped me. The start of 'The Race Is About to Begin' gave me goosebumps today that lasted throughout this amazing song - it so ferocious I feel worn out after hearing it, thankfully the end is a bit calmer. But every song on this album is truly superb. Can black midi top this album, let's hope so?
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Originally posted by Gentle and Giant Gentle and Giant wrote:

I think I've played this album 15-20 times by now and it still impresses me. I don't normally give an album so much attention, but this has really gripped me. The start of 'The Race Is About to Begin' gave me goosebumps today that lasted throughout this amazing song - it so ferocious I feel worn out after hearing it, thankfully the end is a bit calmer. But every song on this album is truly superb. Can black midi top this album, let's hope so?

It's going to be tough since I gave it a perfect rating! Embarrassed
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Okay I was finally able to get to my mail and get the CD. Really enjoyed listening to it and going back to some of the stand-out tracks while reading the lyrics (normally not something I care for but black midi's are pretty interesting). This makes Cavalcade look tame in comparison, but it's going to take a couple of listens to decide which of the two albums I prefer.

But good god is this a rough listen as a headphones user. Definitely have a pretty bad case of tinnitus going on now, lol
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I have a somewhat difficult relation to black midi. I like their general approach and there are many parts that are really great, but they regularly throw in some stuff that annoys me and distracts me from the good things they're doing. Occasionally they seem to do stuff with the primary motivation to piss off simple minds, and I'm not particularly keen on that attitude. The vocals are for sure an acquired taste for me. After having seen their Glastonbury gig I have heard Hellfire once now, and I seem to get more into it as it goes on. I may ultimately end up liking it quite a bit, I see the potential, but I have to work my way into it. 


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I think all of that is probably true, and I still love it!
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Yeah, I think it is probably hard for a lot of people to get into it, especially if they aren't used to avant-prog or experimental rock, but I think hopefully more people will enjoy it!

Btw, I just received the red vinyl in the mail. Will probably spin it all week! Tongue
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It took a bit to get used to it, but helped that I started listening to BCNR and Squid at the same time. I like Cavalcade even better now that I’ve listened to Hellfire and get a better feeling for their sound and style.

The vocals was a hill to climb at first, but now I love it. Many of my favourite parts are when you are bombarded with lyrics. Like the title track of Hellfire.

They have an edge, but that just makes it more interesting. There’s enough vanilla music out there.

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Originally posted by Zeph Zeph wrote:

It took a bit to get used to it, but helped that I started listening to BCNR and Squid at the same time. I like Cavalcade even better now that I’ve listened to Hellfire and get a better feeling for their sound and style.

The vocals was a hill to climb at first, but now I love it. Many of my favourite parts are when you are bombarded with lyrics. Like the title track of Hellfire.

They have an edge, but that just makes it more interesting. There’s enough vanilla music out there.

Yeah, definitely. Too much vanilla music....ConfusedOuch
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Listened to it and... It's excellent, one of the best albums released in 2022!
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Listened to it and... It's excellent, one of the best albums released in 2022!

I put it up there with one of the best records of this decade... So far. We'll see how time determines the first 3 black midi records.Clap
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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Zeph Zeph wrote:

It took a bit to get used to it, but helped that I started listening to BCNR and Squid at the same time. I like Cavalcade even better now that I’ve listened to Hellfire and get a better feeling for their sound and style.

The vocals was a hill to climb at first, but now I love it. Many of my favourite parts are when you are bombarded with lyrics. Like the title track of Hellfire.

They have an edge, but that just makes it more interesting. There’s enough vanilla music out there.

Yeah, definitely. Too much vanilla music....ConfusedOuch

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Man, this is going to take some listens in order to peel back the layers and appreciate the musicianship and compositional skills. I'll say one thing from the first couple of listens, this is the album they needed to exploit  their esteemed/award-winning band member, drummer Morgan Simpson. 

I think I'm most impressed at how different it is from either/both Schlagenheim and Cavalcade. And by their tight, precise cohesion--even at inhuman speeds.




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So, because of the buzz, I gave this album a listen. An enjoyable listen, that's for sure, but I'm not that enthused as others. Again, it is quite an enjoyable album, but it also comes over to me as a bit too mannerist: style and tempo changes for the style and tempo changes. I guess their live performances might be more interesting than their studio efforts, but that's just a guess.
A good album, but personally I don't consider this a masterpiece.


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Guys, I seriously think that you should listen to this:


It is way heavier than Hellfire, but I think that both bands have many things in common. I really enjoyed this, more than Hellfire. 


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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

So, because of the buzz, I gave this album a listen. An enjoyable listen, that's for sure, but I'm not that enthused as others. Again, it is quite an enjoyable album, but it also comes over to me as a bit too mannerist: style and tempo changes for the style and tempo changes.
Whatever you think or felt about it is none of my business really. I just feel the need to say that I don't agree with that last part at all. Every style and tempo change is there for a good reason imo. It's two of the reasons I find it so enjoyable.
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Guys, I seriously think that you should listen to this:


It is way heavier than Hellfire, but I think that both bands have many things in common. I really enjoyed this, more than Hellfire. 

Hm, listened once and found it occasionally fun and entertaining, but to me not on the same artistic level. Nowhere near really. The way I see it Black Midi knows how to write a memorable tune, create a strong concept + intriguing lyrics, ewoke emotions etc... in addition to their impressive musicianship. I think they are the complete package. The Callous Daoboys imo, surely knows how to pack a punch - but not a whole lot more. I wasn't too fond of the constant screaming either - as it felt like he was screaming every word without really knowing why they all nedded to be screamed. Still I preferred that over the clean and "pretty" melodic singing parts. Sorry, that came out a little too harsh. Not uninteresting. Maybe next time.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Guys, I seriously think that you should listen to this:


It is way heavier than Hellfire, but I think that both bands have many things in common. I really enjoyed this, more than Hellfire. 

Hm, listened once and found it occasionally fun and entertaining, but to me not on the same artistic level. Nowhere near really. The way I see it Black Midi knows how to write a memorable tune, create a strong concept + intriguing lyrics, ewoke emotions etc... in addition to their impressive musicianship. I think they are the complete package. The Callous Daoboys imo, surely knows how to pack a punch - but not a whole lot more. I wasn't too fond of the constant screaming either - as it felt like he was screaming every word without really knowing why they all nedded to be screamed. Still I preferred that over the clean and "pretty" melodic singing parts. Sorry, that came out a little too harsh. Not uninteresting. Maybe next time.

Don't worry about it being harsh. It was an articulated opinion and you have the right to not enjoy some particular music. I, for example, can't understand why Hellfire doesn't click with me, as I loved Cavalcade with all my heart. Some albums are just not made for one, I guess. Still, I think that black midi is a band of excellent musicians. There are some rough edges in Celebrity Therapist, sure, but I'm really interested in seeing what they create next. And I feel towards this album like I felt towards Cavalcade; I'm very much entertained and impressed by it. I believe that may be an overlap among black midi and The Callous Daoboys enjoyers, that is why I thought that it was justified to share the latter here. 

I regard this as being at the top of the game in this new wave of music:




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